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The show fails at comedy and that was the central item that was supposed to hold it together.
The problem is the the show is supposed to be absurd and doesn’t get there. The jokes don’t land and that wrecked the premise.
She hulk is a supposed to be a tongue in cheek takedown of the marvel’formula’ she calls out each item as it happens.
The tone they hit is about. Halfway where it needs to be where they want the main character taken seriously at times and irreverent at others.
The twerking scene is a perfect example of this. There is no reason for Megan thee stallion to have Jen as a lawyer. So it should be absolutely insane that a lawyer declares that she will kill for a client then starts busting a move with them. It should be so far outside of the norm for lawyers and the characters that it feels like a flash mob performing’never going to give you up’. Spoiler it doesn’t, it feel like just another set up joke. It never hits the line right between jokey and serious.
The finale didn’t land because it felt too serious. It was supposed to be gut ripping funny when she hulk travels from marvel show to the main menu.
It was a HEAVY lift to write and they didn’t get there. The main actor wasn’t charming enough to pull off the character development and comedy scenes. the vfx obscured any nuance in performance.
It was halfway between falling down and Ferris bulers day off and that’s not a good thing.
Why don’t you watch it and decide for yourself? What’s with this need for everyone to be validated by the shitty opinions of others?
I thought it was funny and the characters were well crafted. The goofy tone worked surprisingly well, and in retrospect it shouldn’t have surprised me how well it worked because we’re talking about a universe where people turn into giant green beefcakes and shoot lightning out of their hands. That’s silly as hell, and this show is really the first instance of the MCU acknowledging that. I want more of it.
What’s with this need for everyone to be validated by the shitty opinions of others?
Also this need for everything to be put in a box. One or the other. Black or white. It’s somewhere in between, like most things in life. I hate this weird need to label everything all the time.
You’re a bad. (Just kidding haha.)
I’d rather not potentially waste my time watching something to see if it’s good, if others can tell me that have already seen it. That could be one reason people seek others’ opinions first, idk. However I acknowledge that this method doesn’t always lead to successful recommendations.
I think perhaps a bit of both? It had some good aspects and there were some total misses and most of it was just ok to meh. There was also a misogynist uproar surrounding it. But you don’t need to be misogynist to hate it.
It was bad. Just like The Secret Invasion was bad, bit with a male lead. There you go.
It was good until the last 1 or 2 episodes. It was the pacing/story that made it bad. Nothing to do with the themes of women empowerment or anything.
Agreed it was a fun show to watch but the conclusion was a bit meh.
I liked it. I wish it was a little longer, so we had a better character build for her. I say that about most Disney+ shows, though. I get they’re expensive, but they’re also the largest media empire on earth. They monetize the show far outside the initial run of it anyways so it would be nice to give some of these shows a better chance of hooking people during the first season with a few more episodes and a less rushed story.
It’s pretty dumb. It’s lame to accuse people of bigotry because they don’t enjoy a TV show.
It’s got Jameela Jamil in it. That’s good enough for me.
The Good Place is a series I recommend.
Incels are not the majority of any real demographic outside of their own group. It’s really weak to use that as an excuse for mediocre movies and shows. There are way more normal people that if it were good it still would’ve picked up.
Exactly. I’m so sick of this excuse that any female-led project that doesn’t blow up only does so because people hate women. Ghostbusters (2016) was the first one I remember it being the big talking point. That movie was just not good, and it had nothing to do with the female leads.
I enjoyed She-Hulk. It wasn’t great and there were moments that made me cringe, but overall it was ok. I love Tatiana Maslany (if anyone hasn’t watched Orphan Black yet, what are you doing with your life?) and can’t wait to see more of her in the MCU.
Well said.
I, and I feel like most people, are perfectly willing to give any creative work a fair shot, and indeed, female leads in traditionally male roles offer a new opportunity to tell a new story, which is great in this time of endless remakes, reboots, and sequels nobody asked for.
…but just like it’s not fair for viewers to dislike a work just because of a female lead, it’s just as unfair for the creators (and critics) to expect viewers to like a work just because of a female lead.
Too often these days, it seems like the discourse surrounding such movies is simply a straightforward test of: “Did you like this movie? If not, you’re a misogynist.”
Unfortunately this misses the possibility (intentionally, at times) of viewers who didn’t like a work for any number of fair and valid reasons, from fairly objective weaknesses to simple subjective preferences. Even people who wouldn’t have liked the same movie even if it were cast with traditional male actors filling the roles as expected.
This does a disservice to women (or whatever unrepresented demographic takes center stage in the work) by shackling the merits of gender and/or racial equality to an artistic work for which criticism will necessarily be highly subjective…and from that point it just makes a fundamentally strong and simple truth (“We should value everyone, regardless of gender or race”) and corrupt it to the point that the message that’s really coming across in these conversations is sadly more the unspoken suggestion that these groups need this movie to prove their worth.
Which is nonsense.
Women are perfectly capable of kicking ass without having a movie tell us so. A shit movie about women can still be a shit movie without changing the truth of women being incredible. And we should all be able and willing to make a distinction between negative sentiment for a movie featuring women, negative sentiment for the performance done by female actors, and negative sentiment toward women in general.
It was ok. Certainly not on level with loki, wandavision or moonknight, but not bad either. But I especially didn’t like the feige part, and the ending itself, and breaking the fourth wall, which is something i didnt like in deadpool either.
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Yeah I’m not saying the tv show is diverging from the comic book, just that i don’t like that kind of pre-baked postmodernist stuff. As I said, the show was fine, i don’t agree with most of the critiques that have been thrown at it.
Why does the OP think that She-Hulk ‘got bad ratings’ when it was one of the two most viewed Marvel shows on Disney last year?
That’s right, more people spent more minutes watching She-Hulk than anything other than Loki, including content from other Disney franchises.
Social media outrage & negative review brigading on IMDb and Rotten Tomatoes from a demographic that is mainly male, a certain age & American doesn’t actually represent the majority of those of us paying for Disney+.
Women subsidize content designed for that market all the time,why the outrage when the rest of the market gets something to their tastes?
I remember watching the first season. It wasn’t bad but also not good, far from the best. It’s hardly memorable. I do remember lines and dialogue were kind of forced or not cohesive.
When daredevil did the walk of shame in his suit only barefoot was the moment I officially labeled the series crap.
That was, objectively, hilarious. You must have no soul.
Edit: removed original response. After seeing other downvoted comments I know what’s going on here and it’s not worth it.
Edit: removed my comment. After seeing other downvoted comments I know what’s going on here and it’s not worth it.
I never watched it because from what I saw in ads and clips people posted it didn’t look lile something I’d enjoy. I can’t say if it’s bad or not because I haven’t watched it.
I think a lot of people who felt the same way are shitting on it regardless of if they watched it or not. Just watch it yourself and form your own opinions. Everyone has their own tastes. If you don’t like it skip it and watch something else
There are many reasons people don’t like the show, misogyny, the different tone compared to everything else in the MCU, putting established characters in a different tone than they’re used to, and then other more substantial complaints about writing, CGI, etc.
It’s often a mixed bag and I’ve seen a lot of people blame the writing when it was really one of the other factors. Personally, I loved it.
