• Reminder that Mahatma Ghandi was a plant by the UK government to stop the india independence movement, and delayed independence by decades. Also a pedophile. Nonviolent protest doesn’t work.

      • @theblueredditrefugee@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Sure, here’s one: https://himjournals.com/article/articleID=302

        Alow me to quote Justice Markandey Katju, justice of the supreme court of india (source)

        Gandhi—A British Agent This post is bound to draw a lot of flak at me, but that does not matter as I am not a popularity seeker I have often said things knowing that initially that will make me very unpopular, and I will be vilified and denounced by many. Nevertheless I say such things.as I believe they must be said in my country’s interest. I submit that Gandhi was objectively a British agent who did great harm to India. These are my reasons for saying this :

        1. India has tremendous diversity, so many religions, castes, races, languages, etc ( see my article ’ What is India ?’ on my blog justicekatju.blogspot.in ). Realizing this the British policy was of divide and rule ( see online ’ History in the Service of Imperialism ’ , which is a speech delivered by Prof. B.N. Pande in the Rajya Sabha ). By constantly injecting religion into politics continuously for several decades, Gandhi furthered the British policy of divide and rule. If we read Gandhi’s public speeches and writings ( e.g. in his newspapers ‘Young India’, ’ Harijan ', etc ) we find that ever since Gandhi came to India from South Africa in 1915 or so till his death in 1948, in almost every speech or article he would emphasize Hindu religious ideas e.g. Ramrajya, Go Raksha ( cow protection ), brahmacharya ( celibacy ), varnashram dharma ( caste system ), etc ( see Collected Works of Mahatma Gandhi ). Thus Gandhi wrote in ’ Young India ’ on 10.6.1921 " I am a Sanatani Hindu. I believe in the varnashram dharma. I believe in protection of the cow ". In his public meetings the Hindu bhajan ’ Raghupati Raghav Raja Ram ’ would be loudly sung. Now Indians are a religious people, and they were even more religious in the first half of the 20th century. A sadhu or swamiji may preach such ideas to his followers in his ashram, but when they are preached day in and day out by a political leader, what effect will these speeches and writings have on an orthodox Muslim mind ? It would surely drive him towards a Muslim organization like the Muslim League, and so it did. Was this not serving the British policy of divide and rule ? By constantly injecting religion into politics for several decades, was Gandhi not objectively acting as a British agent ?
        2. In India a revolutionary movement against British rule had started in the early 20th century under the Anushilan Samiti, Jugantar, and revolutionaries like Surya Sen, Ramprasad Bismil ( who wrote the song ’ Sarfaroshi ki tamanna ab hamare dil mein hai ), Chandrashekhar Azad, Ashfaqulla, Bhagat Singh, Rajguru, etc ( who were all hanged by the British ). Gandhi successfully diverted the freedom struggle from this revolutionary direction to a harmless nonsensical channel called Satyagrah. This also served British interests.
        3. Gandhi’s economic ideas were thoroughly reactionary. He advocated self sufficient village communities, though everybody knows that these communities were totally casteist and in the grip of landlords and money lenders…Gandhi was against industrialization, and preached handspinning by charkha and other such reactionary nonsense. Similarly, his ’ trusteeship ’ theory was all nonsense, and an act of deceiving the people Some people praise Gandhi’s bravery in going to Noakhali, etc to douse the communal violence at the time of Partition. But the question is why did he help setting the house on fire in the first place by preaching religious ideas in public political meetings for several decades, which were bound to divide the Indian people on religious lines? First you set the house on fire, and then you do the drama of trying to douse the flames.
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    THIS IS *NOT* OKAY.

    This sets a dangerous example, and we need to talk about it.

    If you punch a Nazi like this, you’re going to break your wrist. Remember, make contact with the largest two knuckles (index and middle finger) and keep a strong wrist. You want to hurt the Nazi, not yourself!

    Stay safe out there and keep punching Nazis.

    This has been a public service announcement.

    [Two images shown side by side. The first shows a young man in a black shirt standing on a crowded sidewalk, his hand raised above his head in the historical “Nazi salute” with a lightly smug expression. There is a person’s hand holding up their middle finger prominently in his direction visible from the right side of the screen, but everything past their forearm is out of the image frame. In the second image, the same man in the black shirt is shown with his hand at his side, as a second man in an orange shirt is shown in the middle of punching the taller black-shirted man in the jaw. The fist of the man punching is angled slightly upwards at the wrist, so his fist makes contact at the knuckles on his fingers rather than using the flat surface of a typical punch. The image is captured before the man in the black shirt reacts to the punch. The hand holding up a middle finger is still visible in the right of the frame.]


    ^I’m a human volunteer transcribing posts in a format compatible with screen readers, for blind and visually impaired users!^

  • @atimholt@lemmy.world
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    My ring finger is longer than my pointer finger, though I can’t tell if their knuckles are the largest two. Should I punch with those knuckles?

    • @winterayars@sh.itjust.works
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      Probably yeah. You want the most stability in your punch. Think of the line the force has to take back into your body, the more bone and muscle that line goes through the better.

      But if you really want to learn to punch go take lessons. Join an anarchist gym if you’re fortunate enough to have one.

  • @TGhost@lemmy.fmhy.ml
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    Isnt there an community avalaible for this kinds of things regarding nazis ? if yes pls give it to me. If no, pls create it.

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      Former Speaker of the House, ® Paul Ryan’s favorite band

      (He didn’t understand that he was a cog in the machine they were raging against)

  • Meldroc
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    Hell yeah! Punch all the Nazis!

    THE ONLY GOOD NAZI IS A DEAD ONE!

      • @RaLiChu@lemmy.ml
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        Reddit Nazis: Just can’t wait to go have a genocide!

        *spez sleeps*

        Anyone Else: Fuck the hell off. Your jaw needs a realignment

        *spez announces red alert at Reddit HQ and personally fires a cruise missle to ‘removed by reddit’ your life*

        • @zzz@feddit.de
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          How could you call them Nazi?!?!

          They’re only saluting Hitler, the literal figure of the Nazi movement and regime – see, absolutely innocent!

          The word Nazi gets used so inflatedly these days. Also, why is everyone calling me Nazi?

      • @Zithero@lemmy.world
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        Legit, my entire account and all of the accounts that ever touched the OFFICAL reddit app, were all removed when I made a comment “Yeah, punch a Nazi, with a bullet.”

        The accounts were all insta/perma-banned across all of reddit for this one comment.

        Basically reddit was defending Nazis.

        I am kind of not too sad to see reddit start sinking.

        • arefx
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          That’s basically what happened to me, too. Reddit is actual garbage.

        • Meldroc
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          Oh yeah. When one of those subs start laughing it up about “free helicopter rides”, crickets. Reddit let them do that for YEARS before public outcry forced them to exercise some asshole control.

          When people started laughing about Richard Spenser getting punched, the bans started flying almost immediately.

          Let’s call /u/spez what he is: a Nazi sympathizer.

  • PatFusty
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    He did Nazi that amirite Le fellow redditors.

    tips sombrero

  • @Fezz@lemmy.world
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    I mean that’s a slapmnkt a punch but good effort.

    Now I know Nazis are not known for many good things but given their leadership I though keeping facial hair neat would be one.

    • @boogetyboo@aussie.zone
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      Why do these self-proclaimed superior race types always look like they smell like unwashed scalp and sour milk breath? A rattle of phlegm always present in the back of their throat when they speak.

      • @hyves@feddit.nl
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        It tells them that none of that matters, they’re still superior because they’re white. In fact, none of their problems would exist if it wasn’t for those people

      • Tammo-Korsai
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        I had the misfortune of meeting a neo-Nazi with a substantial speech impediment. He would have been persecuted, or worse under the Nazi regime. I guess it’s self-loathing that draws some of them into the ideology.

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    Cool but slippery slope Edit: I feel like a lot of people dont get it. For an example if you ban nazis and they get power they can ban the left side or trans people(etc you get the point). Also just banning stuff can screw up things. Same with allowing hitting someone for their (flawed) ideology. You have to assume that your enemies and also yourself dont have morals. Nazis think they are the good side(idk actually, im not a nazi). Violence and banning things should only be used as an extreme measure.

    • @krackalot@vlemmy.net
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      This is said as if they wouldn’t ban the left otherwise, or are not already banning being trans or books right now.

    • @jtk@lemmy.sdf.org
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      Violence and banning things should only be used as an extreme measure.

      This is the “extreme” everyone keeps talking about. The line is like 300 yards behind it.

    • drzoidberg
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      It’s only slippery if you don’t have proper footing when punching a Nazi.

      If you can’t ensure proper footing, or are unable to properly punch, a baseball bat will suffice. Preferably a wooden baseball bat, as aluminum bats flex more than wood, and you don’t want any give when hitting a Nazi with your bat.

      Aim for the knees, so the cowardly Nazi can’t run away, like the coward it is. Once it’s on the ground, you can continue to work the rest of the body. Stay away from the head! I cannot emphasize that enough. You want the Nazi to remain conscious, so it can feel it’s bones shatter.

    • @Radicalized@lemmy.one
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      It’s a sheer cliff really. Either you’re punching a nazi or you’re punching someone that doesn’t deserve it. Nazis are usually proud of being Nazis, so they show off with these salutes and their dumb swastika flags. It’s ok to punch people like this. It should in fact be legal.

    • dub
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      Allowing Nazis to be in society is a slippery slope

        • dub
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          I’m not a communist. But I’m not sure where in the communist manifesto it calls for systematic genocide of non Aryan people

        • @Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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          I love how every time someone badmouths nazis, someone tries to divert to talking about communism, making it obvious how salty they still are about the fall of Berlin.

          • @BurtsBS@lemm.ee
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            Show an example of commie nonsense that hasn’t resulted in authoritarian rule and slaughter or forced starvation.

            Wanting a stateless classless society results in the state ruling a bunch of classless dipshits.

            • @BurtsBS@lemm.ee
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              Should have expected that from that type of username. That limited brain function is on full display.

              Enjoy eating that clay to keep your belly full.

    • @ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca
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      slippery slope

      Nope. A Nazi is well defined.

      Conceptual slippery slope arguments assume that because we cannot draw a distinction between adjacent stages, we cannot draw a distinction between any stages at all.

      Example: "There is no essential difference between 199 and 200 grains of sand or 200 and 201 grains and so on. Thus, there is no difference between 1 grain of sand and 3 billion grains of sand.”

      Slippery Slope Fallacy

      • @Syrc@lemmy.world
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        Nope. A Nazi is well defined.

        Not really. It’s an ideology, and ideologies always have various layers, variants, intensities and whatnot. If someone has a race bias are they automatically a Nazi? If someone is in a position to kill a jew but doesn’t do it, are they automatically not a Nazi? Putin says Ukraine is controlled by Nazis. The entire US population is pretty much split on whether “certain politicians” are Nazi or not.

        As much as I’d like it to be true, it’s not something objective enough that most people can agree on a single definition.

        • @ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca
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          The guy is doing a fucking Nazi salute. There are people who literally wave the fucking Nazi flag. People will tattoo the Nazi swastika on their bodies and literally self identify as a Nazi. It isn’t that complex holy fuck.

          • @Syrc@lemmy.world
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            And those people you listed are definitely Nazis. But are people who don’t do that stuff definitely not Nazis? There’s a huge gray area.

            • @Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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              There’s a huge gray area.

              It does not follow from this that the existence of a gray area means that obvious nazis should not be opposed vigorously.

              • @Syrc@lemmy.world
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                Oh I never disagreed with that. If someone openly identifies as a nazi they deserve anything that’s coming their way. My gripe with your initial comment was that you said this couldn’t lead to a slippery slope because “a Nazi is well defined”, when it’s not. If we stop at people who are 100% confirmed nazis I’m all in, the thing that person was mentioning is how we should be wary of applying the same logic to people who could be nazis, because it’s all downhill from there.

      • @MyFeetOwnMySoul@lemmy.ca
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        I think he means that it’s a dangerous precident. Opening the door to political violence not only makes your side look barbarous, but is also a potential justification for future political violence against an arbitrary group.

        I hate Nazis, but we shouldn’t be punching people for saying stupid, hateful shit.

        We should be mocking them mercilessly.

        • twelve20two
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          I agree with you. It’s a lot harder to make that effective, though.

        • @ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca
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          If your neighbours started saying your family needs to be put into gas chambers you’d laugh it off? Nazis believe in genocide. It is not a laughing matter. It is a threat.

          • @MyFeetOwnMySoul@lemmy.ca
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            Believing in racial superiority is as absurd as a flat earth, but in-order to be willing to punch someone, you have to take their ideas seriously enough to find them threatening, there-by legitimizing them [for the audience the Nazi is targeting].

            Some rando standing on a street espousing the deranged ramblings of a long-dead dictator is not a legitimate threat in my eyes.

            If the rando is somehow having their verbal excrement backed by the state, then we can talk about violence, but that is not currently the case where I live, and in most of the world.

            I don’t want to debate a Nazi about whether the emperor’s clothes are ugly or not. I’m going to tell everyone the emperor has no clothes.

            • @Sharkwellington@lemmy.one
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              Some rando standing on a street espousing the deranged ramblings of a long-dead dictator is not a legitimate threat in my eyes.

              That’s exactly the first scene of the Twilight Zone episode He’s Alive. Not that it proves anything as it’s just a fictional story but it’s the first thing I thought of.

              An article that also comes to mind is Bartender explains why he swiftly kicks out Nazis even if they’re ‘not bothering anyone’. Basically, if you allow the “rando” Nazi’s a safe place to congregate they’ll tell all their friends who tell their friends and eventually your bar, town square, etc are the local Nazi hangout and the extremists start showing up. Now you have too many Nazis to safely and easily remove.

              Now, you absolutely don’t need to use violence as your language of choice, what’s most important is that you make it loud and clear that trying to put down roots is going to be more trouble than it’s worth.

              • @MyFeetOwnMySoul@lemmy.ca
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                Oh for sure. I’m not at all for leaving Nazis alone. Like I said, they should be mocked merciless. They should know just exactly how deranged they sound, and they should feel bad for opening their dumb mouths. However, no matter how dumb their mouth may be, you don’t get to punch them in it.

          • 🦥󠀠󠀠󠀠󠀠󠀠󠀠
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            Not just genocide but eugenics.

            They will genocide anyone who doesn’t fit in whatever their definition of a perfect human being is.

            Your elderly mom who has a disability? Gassed.

            Your partner, who happens to have some link to a race of people they don’t like? Gassed. (And your children, possibly you too for fraternizing)

            You look a little different for no apparent reason? Gassed.

            It’s almost like old school witch trials in nature where they just make up shit with flimsy justifications to exterminate you.

    • @pizzadg@lemmy.world
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      this post doesnt even mention banning anything, just punching nazis. if they didnt want to get punched, maybe they shouldn’t have chosen to be such vile pieces of shit.

      even if it did, its worked fine for germany, where hate speech and particularly holocaust denial and nazi rhetoric is aggressively prosecuted.

    • 🦥󠀠󠀠󠀠󠀠󠀠󠀠
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      Nazis have proven beyond a shadow of doubt that they must be exterminated at every opportunity. You know, there was that whole world war and a bunch of people died and stuff that you can’t miss. Fuck Nazis.

    • @SamB@lemmy.world
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      Exactly. Dehumanise a certain category of people, so it’s easier to hate, punch and kill. It’s better to educate these people and to make them understand that they’re going the wrong path. Violence leads to radicalisation. It’s funny how nazis used this same mentality against other people. Well, not funny, just sad.

      • Uhh… we’re not dehumanising nazis, we’re merely acknowledging the fact that as long as they can air their views unchallenged they’re an existential threat to marginalised communities and they must be dealt with with extreme prejudice. That doesn’t make them not human.

        • @SamB@lemmy.world
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          The chanting punch a nazi and discard everything about their persona doesn’t sound very humanising. But regardless of that I am not young anymore and have seen some things. I have seen people that complain about eugenics, but wish the worst to autistic people. I have seen people chanting punch a nazi and then going ahead to vote for the most vile right wing party. I have seen people chanting for inclusion and then hating that a foreigner moved into their neighbourhood. All of this to me is just hollow virtue signaling.

    • @BaldManGoomba@lemmy.world
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      Your argument is the slippery slope fallacy. Nazis end game has been seen. They murder people. I don’t hear Nazis saying we can coexist. You murder murderers. You silence people who want to permanently silence others. Idealistically silence them until they change their mind. Punching a Nazi might fix their brain damage at least make them think twice before they try to publicly express themselves

      A slippery slope fallacy (SSF), in logic, critical thinking, political rhetoric, and caselaw, is a fallacious argument in which a party asserts that a relatively small first step leads to a chain of related events culminating in some significant (usually negative) effect.[1] The core of the slippery slope argument is that a specific decision under debate is likely to result in unintended consequences. The strength of such an argument depends on whether the small step really is likely to lead to the effect. This is quantified in terms of what is known as the warrant (in this case, a demonstration of the process that leads to the significant effect). This type of argument is sometimes used as a form of fearmongering in which the probable consequences of a given action are exaggerated in an attempt to scare the audience. Black and white cartoon of a tall woman in a dress reaching her knees and a shorter man holding a bouquet. Both are in front of a robed figure. Each of the marrying couples has a couple of their same-sex and similar attire behind.

      The fallacious sense of “slippery slope” is often used synonymously with continuum fallacy, in that it ignores the possibility of middle ground and assumes a discrete transition from category A to category B. In this sense, it constitutes an informal fallacy. Other idioms for the slippery slope fallacy are the thin end/edge of the wedge, the camel’s nose in the tent, or If You Give a Mouse a Cookie.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope

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        I’ve realized that conservatives often call everything a slippery slope because that’s what they try to do. They know they can’t come out and say we don’t want blacks to vote, so they chip it at with the intent of then taking it to the next step and as many steps at they can. Apply to all their policies.

    • TheSaneWriter
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      Nah, they’ll ban leftism and trans people either way. It’s not like the Weimar Republic banned Nazism, and yet Hitler still banned every other political party and did the Holocaust. Fascist ideologies must be strangled in the cradle, so punching Nazis is fine.