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DoorDash now warns you that your food might get cold if you don’t tip::The app-based delivery service is alerting customers that drivers may not take their order in a timely manner if there is no tip included upfront.
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Call the spot, order it, and go get the food your fuckin self. Stop spending an extra 35% to have somebody working three jobs get it for you.
If I could do that I wouldn’t use GrubHub in the first place.
You do not need a service that did not exist ten years ago. I promise that you can live without it.
Stop spending an extra 35% to have somebody working three jobs get it for you.
I don’t how the three jobs factors into this. Surely they actually need those three jobs, they probably aren’t working them for fun. So not like me not ordering helps them in any way.
it does please keep ordering
Giving in to corporate extortionate practices doesn’t help them in any way either.
If you stop using the service that might harm them though. Probably sacked if there’s no work
Don’t make me use my phone as a phone damn it!
Only 35%? You must be on the introductory deal.
35%? That shit doubles for me. Fuck DoorDash.
Try not to be so judgemental.
Hey, why do you hate trickle down economics so much!
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I honestly wish people would quit using these delivery services in general.
They literally have done nothing but cause problems in store. They cause people who actually came to the store to have to wait because we got a fuckin door dash order for $60 and we’re told to put mobile orders as top priority.
Not to mention all the headaches of trying to contact customers about substitutions or out of stock items. It’s just a fuckin mess.
You’re paying more for lower quality and I honestly don’t even feel bad when I fuck up an order. You’d have been able to tell if you actually came in.
And before anyone brings up disabled people the main users of these delivery services in my area are college kids.
I honestly don’t get the hate. People obviously want to order restaurant food to have at home. Maybe they’re watching a series, studying, have kids, are introverts… like who even cares the reason. And they’re willing to pay more. Why not try to accommodate that?
To me it sounds like the issue is UX related (contacting customers) and store related (expediting orders in the best sequence). Neither of those seem like the solution is wishing people wouldn’t use the service.
You clearly don’t work in food service where we’ve had a constant increase of work load with basically no increase in pay.
And now we’re forced to deal with online ordering which completely disrupts the normal flow of things.
It’s not optimized it’s forced and as a result both the employee and the customer are more stressed.
That still doesn’t sound like the customers fault at all. It should be possible to set certain things as out of stock, depending on the system probably automatically.
The fact that you’re interrupted for online orders sounds like your workflow isn’t optimised for having online orders at all. Just look at McDonald’s drive-in, that’s a completely separate flow from the in-store orders usually and they make it work. That might be a very visible example but many other stores have updated their workflow to accommodate online orders if offered.
So both these issues (calling customers to fix shit and the forced workflow) are completely fixable. You shouldn’t be mad at customers using delivery services, be mad at the store owner that just wants the money from delivering without making sure their system is up for it (not to mention they underpay you, even more reason to be mad at em)
It would be nice if you could put the tip you PLAN to pay, but without a certain rating afterward it doesn’t get paid. Sadly that would likely get abused by customers too. I would rather give them a better cash tip than a (ahem) documented one…
Uber Eats lets customers change the tip retroactively. As a driver this is riskier because people bait drivers with a big tip and then go in and remove it entirely after the fact for no reason.
The other issue is that most people don’t know what they’re eating when they give a rating. My 1 star reviews are from customers who’s food was done incorrectly by the restaurant or who gave such shit directions for delivery that it was impossible (had one apartment customer who wanted me to enter the secure building to leave it at their door but didn’t give access instructions, respond to my texts, or answer any of my calls… and they decided I deserved 1 star for that).
I’d like something that gives both customers and drivers more confidence. Like a proper wage from DoorDash that’s baked into the cost of service (maybe from those exorbitant fees they charge?). Just cut the tip all together and pay drivers appropriately and stop hiding behind the independent contractor shit as an excuse for exploiting people.
Tipping is literally becoming extortion now.
The end result of the tipping surge is going to be the collapse of all tipped work. People will stop using tipped services entirely and eventually the pyramid of wealthy users who can afford increasingly high tip is going to shrink.
I hate to break it to you but it’s always worked like that. I drove pizzas for a long time pre-apps and drivers have always prioritized deliveries based on expected tip. We even had a no-go list by the phone of people who stiffed drivers. If anything it’s way easier to get away with not tipping now.
That’s just all of late stage capitalism. Most industries are shrinking bc most people can’t afford to spend on much beyond the basic necessities of rent and food anymore.
I’m in the hotel industry and occupancy rates are declining, people just aren’t going out on vacation like they used to.
Inevitably any service tipped or not will be wealthies-only.
Part of it I blame on anti social behavior among people under 40. We have a lot of extreme social anxiety over simple things like talking on the phone which extends into a severe inability to date. When you have tons of incels that means that means that men and women can’t share the cost of housing and women have to work as much as men, which doubles the workforce. Obviously the solution is not to prohibit women from working, the way that people like Pim Tool like to imply.
We have a lot of extreme social anxiety over simple things like talking on the phone which extends into a severe inability to date.
Do we though? I’ve not met anyone like this, but maybe there’s a reason for that. My social circle is outrageously slutty and outgoing. And prefer to share Netflix logins and cook at home because you can have an amazing night at 20% the cost of going out.
Have you considered that people are less social when everything costs so much and people have so little?
That can certainly contribute, though people have been poor in the past and we didn’t have an epidemic of severe social anxiety.
All over the parks here are signs that you can’t use the park unless you have your $35 annual park pass. I’m talking about random dinky local parks. If you can’t pay you can’t even enjoy the trees. In 1980 the average movie ticket was around $2 in 2023 in the city its more like $15. 4 kids want to go see a movie its $60, $80 if they share some drinks/popcorn.
Simultaneously to everything being expensive and having less and less to spare after they pay for drastically more expensive essentials there is more to do and see online without spending a bunch of additional money per unit of time spent.
Adjusted for inflation, that’s three times what it should cost. Four kids, adjusted for inflation, it should only be $23. 15 years ago, loading up on over priced popcorn, soda and candy was only $10.
I’m a school bus driver and we get tips (at Christmastime and the end of the school year) for no fucking reason that I can figure out. This is bad enough as it is, but last Christmas one of my co-workers actually handed out fucking tip envelopes (like what the garbage collectors give out) to the kids on his buses. I was at least pleasantly surprised that he got in trouble for this.
A Christmas present isn’t a tip.
I usually give a tip to you guys around that time of the year. Why shouldn’t I? 180 days of the year, 2x a day I depend on you and I have had no problems. This is for two kids btw. Think of anything in your life that you use 720 times in one year without issue. So yeah here is 20 bucks happy holidays.
Why shouldn’t I?
Because we’re not volunteers, we get paid. Do you tip everybody who performs a service of any kind for you? I used to write software for a living and nobody ever tipped me.
Thanks for the $20 BTW - it’s not like I throw out the gift cards or anything, I just think it’s weird.
I am sorry you didn’t get a Christmas bonus. Your old employer sounds like a tool. And no I don’t tip everyone. Also I don’t give gift cards I just give cash, cash is like a gift card but you can use it at more locations so it is better.
jfc
My wife had an employee who was fired from a previous business for taking a tip.
How about I just get food from one of the 15 places in easy walking distance as I’m in a city.
Or even if you’re not in a city, drive a little bit and pick it up. I have that many options within 5-10 minutes’ driving distance
Some people’s don’t have cars? They want to stay and focus on their homework or chores or anything? How about those with 30 minute breaks who order and time it to land within their break time? How about those who are who are sick/disabled/less fortunate and unable to get to locations easily without extra effort?
Only the last one of those is mildly valid. The rest are not good enough to tip the scales to make it reasonable.
Even if you don’t have a car, you should probably be saving up for one instead of blowing money on Doordash. Grocery delivery would be more practical.
Huh, if I went out to the corner and bought food and came back, it would take 20-30 minutes. Sometimes, the restaurant is busy, and I sit there knowing I will have to not eat it because I will just have to clock back in the second I get back. Sometimes, I have to explain why I was late. Why would I put myself through that and not just get someone to do it for me in advance.
Mildly valid for disabled or less fortunate individuals…
One other thing. I bought food for someone, and it is more attractive to receive it from the comfort of their home instead of being annoyed by traffic or getting dressed. How about those with a car that don’t want to deal with traffic? Ever hear of comfort, or are you one of those people who think no pain no gain hard-core lifestyles are the only way to live?
It’s just silly that you think not using Doordash is some kind of uncomfortable or hard life.
Bottom line is that it’s a luxury that is unnecessary for most people. If you want to waste your money on unnecessary delivery, that’s on you. I prefer to keep more of my money to spend on durable things rather than temporary conveniences. That’s part of the reason that I own a house and land.
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Lol.
I hate Doorsdash so fucking much but I’m pretty sure I’m addicted to it. It’s one of those terrible destructive relationships and I find myself screaming at the app every time I use it. I recently discovered a neat trick though, where if I order from the website then the app won’t spam me with the double-dash popup but I’ll still get my delivery statuses.
As someone who doesn’t use it* I’m curious, why is it so addicting?
*My wife used it once when we were out of state for a wedding but only because I was stuck inside due to illness.
It’s a time saver for sure. My husband and I use it a lot though over the past 2 months we’ve made conscious efforts to cook at home more for both money saving (it’s fucking expensive) and to reduce our calorie intake.
That being said, it’s really nice to just press a quick button, and then start sweeping, doing laundry, vacuuming, taking out the trash, etc, and then food just shows up that can now be conveniently cleaned up quickly as well.
Cooking yourself not only takes away time from the other chores kicking them to getting done later, but also now adds chores as well with the dishes.
I reason that something has to give between work, fitness, chores, schooling, sleep, and downtime. So far it’s been my sleep, but I don’t feel guilty using food delivery services to get some gaming/social time back in as well.
Thanks, that does make sense. I just finished raking leaves, walked 2 miles today for fitness, cooked dinner, and cleaned up. And there’s still more to do…
If it wasn’t for the tip I would honestly do it too. But I hate tipping non-wait staff so I’ll go pick a pizza up just to avoid it.
Learn to cook. This is why everyone became broke and fat. It is scary how fast you lose money this way. A single meal for one person can be the same as a family of four food budget for a week and the food you get is loaded with salt and calories.
My rule for eating out is simple: it has to be food I can’t resonably make at home. I love Indian food but it wouldn’t be realistic for me to start cooking it.
I know how to cook, but only in a commercial kitchen and only when I’m making 150+ servings of something.
I know how to cook, but sometimes I don’t want to cook. I don’t see why this is such a hard concept to grasp, and I don’t know why everyone is so hostile towards people who choose to spend their money on this
Because it is hard to feel bad about someone complaining about a luxury that caters to human laziness being slightly more expensive. There is about a billion people on earth who don’t have enough to eat or don’t have access to a good diet and you people are whining about spending 41 dollar laziness premium vs a 38 dollars laziness premium.
Try using a bicycle, maybe you will lose some weight.
People are “whining” about an out of control tipping culture. Doesn’t matter if you like the service or not, tips are fucking ridiculous right now.
Just stop tipping in that case?
They should also warn that they’ll spit in your food too.
I frequently find food bag have been opened when a doordasher delivers orders. It’s odd because the tracker typically shows the dasher stopping in weird residential areas and parking for extended periods of time.
This implies that your food won’t arrive cold if you do tip, and that hasn’t been my experience at all.
Don’t like the concept, stop using the service. It’s that simple.
But also that annoying, because this model where your ““tip”” becomes a bribe is a cancer upon society that needs to be eliminated.
Ah yes, the app for the particularly lazy, maybe that serves as an incentive to move their asses for once and get it themselves
Aren’t you supposed to tip for an exceptional service? Like if the food was supposed to be deliver in 20 minutes, but the delivery driver got it to you in 15? This just sounds like extortion.
20->15 is not exceptional. 20->2-3 minutes is.
No, you tip for adequate service in America. You’d tip a lot for exceptional service. You’d only not tip if the service worker completely blew it. The only time I’ve not tipped was when a waiter bombarded me with a political candidate’s campaign spiel right before bringing me the check. Practically held me hostage. That fucking guy didn’t get a cent.
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It’s because of a legal exception that allows businesses to pay service employees below minimum wage. Then the customer subsidizes their wages with tips. So you tip service workers just for doing their job as a matter of course when you dine out. We don’t do it because it makes sense, we do it because we like eating at restaurants and that’s how eating at restaurants works. We could change it, but that would require a change in legislation and/or a mass boycott of all restaurants, and neither is likely to happen any time soon.
Like if the food was supposed to be deliver in 20 minutes, but the delivery driver got it to you in 15?
The delivery driver has 0 control over this.
They do when they take multiple orders at multiple restaurants before delivering your food.
How does doing that shave 5 minutes off a 20 min ETA?
No idea what the time estimates are based on, but 20mins is a long time and food will certainly be cold was my point.
Deja vu!
Usually yes, but then again, when you’re getting paid $7.50/hr, it’s essentially supplemental income.
It boggles my mind that people use apps like these
I sit there at work sometimes, and people are ordering food from takeaways ten minutes walk up the road, paying easily three times what you’d pay to go and get it yourself.
It just doesn’t seem to occur to them that they can go and fetch it.
Only time I ever used DoorDash was when I was too high to feel confident about my ability to put my shoes on. Too bad I didn’t think about how unlikely it was that I would open my door.
It occurs to them, but sometimes you just don’t want to.
I brownbag lunch and we do a group lunch once a week at work at a restaurant.
The only real reason I can see people using apps like these regularly is if they’re disabled or otherwise unable to drive and can’t easily go out to get it themselves.
Who the heck is still using it and the ones like it past the point of once? The few times I played with it just to check it out the meal was 3x the price of getting it myself. I have used it twice while on work travel and both times the food was cold and messed up.
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