• @veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world
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    It’s funny that captchas are in a never ending arms race with bots trained on the same datasets capturing humans answering these stupid puzzles.

    Pretty soon we’re going to be drinking verification cans

    • @Rambi@lemm.ee
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      42 years ago

      Especially because the answers to these captchas are used to train self driving car AI, so if you fuck it up the self driving cars will crash and you will have blood on your hands :/

  • @Pazuzu@midwest.social
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    202 years ago

    Try the audio captcha, those seem to have actual valid answers to them.

    Funny enough, there’s an extension that solves captchas by feeding that audio through a speech recognition algorithm. If anything it’s more reliable than solving them manually

  • @nottheengineer@feddit.de
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    952 years ago

    I still don’t know whether you’re supposed to hit those and I also don’t know if it’s normal to get two challenges or if that just means I did the first one wrong.

    • @jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de
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      It doesn’t really matter, they don’t expect you to get everything right on these. While most of the time you need to get mostly right (Google is using these to train their AI so often they are not sure themselves), they are also looking at other things, like how you move your mouse, and the cookies that they use to spy on people to determine the probability of you being a human. If you pass a certain threshold they let you through, and you can do it even if you miss a square.

      • Mnglw
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        72 years ago

        I use a trackball mouse for disability reasons. I have to actively slow my cursor movement to a crawl and deliberately slowly click each square otherwise I fail captcha’s

        it’s infuriating

      • DessertStorms
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        232 years ago

        and the cookies that they use to spy on people to determine the probability of you being a human

        which is why I assume, as a VPN user who rejects as many cookies as possible, I constantly have to do 5-6 fucking captchas in a row, sometimes more, before it’ll let me through… I can’t be that bad at doing them lol

        Is it frustrating? Fuck yeah. Will it get me to change my behaviour and drop those measures so that the companies getting in my way can collect more of my data? Fuck no.

        • @null@slrpnk.net
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          Yup, as soon as I moved to a privacy-focused browser, pi-hole, and VPN, I started getting a ton more captchas and they had many more in a row.

          I consider it a badge of honor.

          • Droechai
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            12 years ago

            Just use a click delay program between press and input, maybe with a physical on/off switch on a dedicated keyboard next to the mouse together with other necessary keys (like the one button switch between EN and SE layouts or the Memory Cache Dump Key)

        • @Tetsuo@jlai.lu
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          A bot trying to solve the captcha would be very fast so it makes sense that they block fast solvers.

        • @jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de
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          72 years ago

          That’s what a bot would say /s

          But you’re right, the UX sucks, and there are other ways to detect and limit bots that don’t impact legitimate users as much - but Google needs to train their AI, and developers need to cargo cult stuff.

    • Pietson
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      72 years ago

      AFAIK, the first one is the real check, the second one is too train their image recognition AI.

        • neoman4426
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          I vaguely remember 4chan figuring out something to do with which was the control and which the variable and deciding to spam solving the control correctly but the variable with some kind of nonsense (knowing 4chan probably a slur) until the system got enough confirmation that it got moved to the control group and would accept I it there

      • @nottheengineer@feddit.de
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        It has to be more sophisticated than that. Otherwise users could easily taint the datasets by giving wrong answers on purpose.

        It probably checks your answer against the current model’s best guess and if it’s close enough, you get a pass and your input is added to the training data for the next iteration. The more wrong you are, the more challenges you get.

        • @Takios@feddit.de
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          Otherwise users could easily taint the datasets by giving wrong answers on purpose.

          I do that and as long as it’s not too outlandish it lets me through.

    • @boredtortoise@lemm.ee
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      Isn’t it normal to get something like 6 challenges?

      And suddenly one of them has new slow loading images which you won’t notice before clicking continue, thus failing

      • Johanno
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        Oh I usually get the green checkmark without any captcha.

        It depends on the website you are visiting, whether you are loged in on Google and how much cookies you allow and a lot more. Also using Chrome may help because it collects more data.

        Sometimes loging out of Google also helps.

      • u/lukmly013 💾 (lemmy.sdf.org)
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        52 years ago

        The most I got at once was around 21 I think. But twice I did such number without passing.

        I should finally look at one of those automated captcha solver extensions for Firefox. I know some are more accurate than humans anyway.

  • I stress about the whole damn pole. If you showed me a picture of a traffic 🚦 on pole, and asked me what it was, I would say “a traffic light” not “a traffic loght and a traffic light pole”

  • @Daedskin@lemm.ee
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    This is how I approach these: that square only has a single traffic light, not multiple traffic lights like the prompt is asking for

  • @Depress_Mode@lemmy.world
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    402 years ago

    Whenever I get a capcha of anyone on a vehicle, I always make it a point to highlight the entirety of the driver too because I’m not going to just let Google train its self-driving vehicles to just ignore that every motorcycle has a rider on it.

  • CoolerOpposide [none/use name]
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    These are actually checking if you are a bot btw, so to pass them more quickly just don’t move like a bot would. Do shit a bot wouldnt do like clicking and unclicking something, swirl your cursor around the screen, etc.

    Also answer these kind of wrong to fuck with AI

  • GHOSCHT
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    92 years ago

    What I hate so much more are the OpenAI captchas. Especially the goddamn rat ones

    • VaultBoyNewVegas
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      122 years ago

      It’s the text ones for me. I struggle to read the font on some of them so I can’t tell the difference between a capital letter or a lowercase one so now if they’ve the text reader for blind/partially sighted people I’ll use that.

    • @Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      22 years ago

      I had much (not) fun with the ones on the Sony/Playstation page.
      Somezhibg with alligning a 3d object with a specified direction.