It’s, uh, supervised learning.
What a sick burn, could have used it on Steven Hawking too.
Oh w…
That… That’s actually a good point… 🤔
They already have a solution on most modern fridges. My parents fridge dings when it’s been open too long.
Not really. A motor is a much more complicated device than just a sensor, and it doesn’t fix if there’s anything blocking the door.
…and the sensor might just be the temperature sensor itself checking if the temperature is too high for too long.
How about a spring? Think a spring might work?
A spring would quickly be annoying to deal with when you want to open the door up and possibly keep it open.
Like, sure, there are ways, but there are no perfect solutions here. A simple sensor that beeps is the best one, imo.
I’d prefer a spring. Atleast for my fridge the beeping isn’t pleasant as an autistic person. Any situation where I need to keep the door open I could figure out a work around like using my elbow or asking a friend to help if I really couldn’t do it. The beeping I can’t work around and if I managed to remove it, which I doubt I could do, I wouldn’t have anything to close my fridge or tell me when it’s open
The real reason is that by convincing users to install Samsung apps they can collect and monetise personal data.
They already put pumps and motors in the fridge for ice & water.
Potentially it’s for safety reasons. I’d be so scared of a cat or kid going in the fridge and it auto shutting them in
Still haven’t gotten in to the smart home stuff. Friends who enjoy it as a hobby and self host I can see the fun in it. The consumer stuff just seems like it tells you stuff that doesn’t really matter, or it’s controlling lights on voice command which is cool I guess, but it’s not as good as a self-contained switch with instant feedback.
I love my “smart” thermostat. Being able to adjust the AC or heat a few degrees when I’m leaving work so my place is the perfect temp when I get home is awesome.
I don’t understand why I would want any of my other appliances to be “smart.”
Having my lights automatically controlled is nice. They turn on just before sunset, then I have my lamp in my bedroom turn on just before I head to bed normally so I can get straight into bed and hit a button to make the room dark.
I have a few other things connected to Home Assistant like my 3D printer and an air quality meter just to have a dashboard for how things are in my place. But I have zero interest in appliances being connected to the internet. Especially anything that could be dangerous if it malfunctioned.
I like that I can away from my oven while it’s preheating and it will notify me when the preheat is done and being able to turn it off remotely is also nice. I really appreciate my smart lights, if ni other feature than colour changing.
I love my “smart” thermostat. Being able to adjust the AC or heat a few degrees when I’m leaving work so my place is the perfect temp when I get home is awesome.
We have old European radiators in this apartment. But you can attach these electric valves to it with radios. So now my home assistant can just turn the knobs when the thermometer notices it’s getting too cold or hot. Very old tech combined with smart home automation…
You can make it smarter by attaching time delay relay.
You can have a smart home and still keep your privacy. Home Assistant is an open source tool you install to a raspberry pi, and it lets you control your devices locally without ever sending anything to the internet.
I’ve been using it for years and it is really nice.
That’s what my friends who self-host use, it’s more utility than privacy that’s holding me back though because I’d totally use this option. It’s like “ugh another system to manage” after managing computer systems for work all day. I like my analog switches and a heavy knobfeel, drive a car from the 00s with all buttons.
Oh I feel this. So true.
Problem: I barely check my phone when I’m home. If I’m home, I’m usually on my laptop or watching my TV.
Fortunately, my fridge doesn’t have this problem. Instead, it beeps very loudly whenever the door is open for too long.
Well… One would assume the beep is still a thing, is just an extra so if you are not near it you also get a notification.
The beeper thing costs pennies… so not exactly a cost cutting thing… But you never know… and without knowing the model etc difficult to check.
Samsung dont want a lawsuit from their fridge closing on a kids head or something, but they also dont want to i stall sensors to prevent this
If it closed slowly enough you could just measure resistance or voltage of the motor to determine if it’s not moving. The problem is all the other things that you need to do before you can even close a door like shutting a fruit drawer.
Samsung is so damned gimmicky.
It’s not gimmicks. It’s tracking
I recognize a carnival-styled UI with a naked eye. When the UI feels like ADHD distractions, you know marketing tactics are the purpose of the toys. We know that’s expectable with free web services, but costly consumer products need to offer a fully-controllable experience to exclude statistic-mining spyware.
Just popping in as a former user to say Smartthings is fucking garbage. Use Home Assistant or any other self hosted solution. Don’t waste your effort with Smartthings.
Can we please stop connecting everything together?
it’s a process that sadly won’t be stopping anytime soon
after home appliances it’s time for our bodies
Wait until they put cameras, microphones, location sensors and sim cards to a car and report everything to the corporation. Oh wait…
Yes, BUT I kinda want to get automated statistical analysis of my shits sent to my phone. I am talking excel sheet with graphs n stuff here.
nope
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If we don’t network everything how will we ensure the Cylons don’t have complete control over everything?
Retrofuturism: Clever houses would do everything for you, just get back and relax. Your personal assistant would get you whiskey with ice and put some jazzy vinyl for a good evening.
Actual future: You did what to me stupid human? BTW, there are 99+ notifications from our furniture and our partners. Oh, and your toilet paper subscription is due tommorow, don’t think you’d get away with unscrewing the lock this time, I’d watch the shit of you!
Human, my proprietary water filter needs changing. I can’t let you defrost your vegetables until you change it. It’s not just charcoal and aquarium pebbles in a mesh bag with a plastic tube around it, it’s also microchipped to ensure it’s authentic!
Now I’m going to beep louder than a backing up dump truck until you buy a new filter from us.
ATTENTION, CITIZEN. LOOK AT THE PHOTO ON YOUR DISPLAY. THIS PERSON REFILLS INK. TURN HIM IN AND GET A FREE YEARLONG SERVICE. LET RED FLOW.
$50 bucks says they didn’t even think of that.
Samsung Appliances don’t have the best track record for being reliable… Something tells me if they did add something like that, within the first year it’d either break down OR work too well and result in a number of loss of limb lawsuits against the company.
That’s a hilarious thought. The good ol scientists at Samsung, we could just use gravity and design the front to lift up a little, or we could add ridiculously machinery with the power to remove a limb. But they all agree gravity doesn’t tick the box of new technology, therefore they have to go with the latter option.
There’s usually little leveling feet that you can turn to adjust, crank them up a little higher in the front and the door closes itself.
Not cloud-y enough.
Easy fix just have an options menu in the cloud that you need access to to enable it. Charge for the account to login lol. I’m going to start my own fridge company now
Yeah, wtf. How do they get your data then?
Id reckon it’s a slow play to make connecting devices more normalised and therefore make it easier to take your data. It may sound like an unrealistic dystopian future but I reckon we’re gonna get alot more dystopic before we become utopic.
Edit: the app u connect through also probably spies on you but I’d reckon the other prediction is true too just not as sure sbt that onr
Not cloud subscription enough
It’s a lot cheaper to install one sensor per door than it is to install a motor for every moving compartment and a sensor to see if it needs to be closed and that’s just to make sure every door can be closed. A lot of extra circuitry for something they can just do on the cheap.
Doors can be designed to close by slightly angling the hinges which could be cheaper than a cloud based alarm connected to a smartphone.
While true, unless it gains enough speed it might still not properly close by itself. And the door can also be blocked. An angled door will also be a bit heavier to open and more annoying to use. It’s not a perfect solution, even if it is helpful.
Maybe an always tensioned hydraulic like on a screen door? I realize this is just self closing and not close on demand, but seems like it would get the job done.
hear that, Samsung? Just outsource your research and work to lemmy commenters, they know best
My 20 year old fridge closes itself if left open due to the angle of the hinges.
The only reason Samsung has the texting “feature” is to sell your data.
To have the ability to text you about an open door it would need to track your usage, have access to your phone number, and access to your home network (unless they put a sim card in there). Having access to all that means they can gather a lot of information about you will little effort.
Edit: Not to mention that by having access to your phone number they can push you ads directly to your phone. Having the screen and internet access it will have the ability to push ads on the fridge itself as well.
And who can forget that by having these smart features that means that the fridge has more systems that can (and will) fail so that you’ll have to replace the fridge (or pay for costly repairs) when they do. Or the features will stop working after a certain amount of time due to a lack of security updates.
“Some features have been disabled due to your product reaching EOL. We’re sorry for the inconvenience.”
Smart appliances are not the future we want.
cause a motor is more expensive than a sensor.
NOW STOP RESISTING AND DO WHAT THE DEVICE SAYS OR HE CALLS THE VACUUM THAT WILL WIP YA ASS.
is it not possible to use of those mechanical handles they put on top of regular doors in public places?
Everyone’s missing the real issue. Springs, motors, or pneumatics don’t matter if there’s something in the way preventing it from closing. A cheap fridge on an uneven floor will close the door itself if there’s nothing in the way, but if the jug of milk is hanging off the edge of the shelf with no room behind it, the door isn’t closing without something getting damaged.
Additionally I might want it open for an extended period of time, such as loading or unloading a lot of items
Or, you know, a cat or child climbed in and the door closed on them…
Doors can have a notch in the hinge (like a car door) so that once it opens far enough it will stay open until pulled.
The doors at my work (that close due to springs) also have that notch.
You don’t need a motor though, there’s a lever thing you put on doors to make them close, they already put them in fridges.
The true reason is that a motor or hinge or even just s thing that makes noise when the fridge is left open too long (mine has that) or whatever doesn’t collect your personal data
Ding ding ding!
“Download the Smart Fridge app to utilize our Open Door Alert service.”
App Store: Data linked to you - ALL
Why keep the milk fresh when you can stick a tracker up the cows ass for a huge profit?
To be fair, the last time I shoved a sensor up a cows ass my gains were minimal.
Why remove the shit from internet of shit?
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they made a lazy smart fridge, work smarter not harder
