I cannot understand how some people are living with this. It is unbearable

  • 𝕸𝖔𝖘𝖘
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    2 years ago

    I used this scene in a cybersecurity training session. I knew it got the point across, when our resident ad-clicker asked me for advice to avoid that situation.

    E: she asked for advice for her home computer, as she didn’t understand that “at home and at work” meant “at home and at work with any device, not just work’s”

  • Radioactive Radio
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    182 years ago

    My former co-worker was daily driving his browser without any extensions and didn’t see anything wrong with it. I was watching him work one day and he was literally fighting a battle against the unholy pop-ups just tryna download some free fonts. What could’ve been done in 2 clicks took him minutes to do trying to close all the ads and tabs kept opening, videos kept playing. It was painful just to watch.

  • netburnr
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    392 years ago

    I have it on good authority, if you type Google into Google, you can break the internet.

    • @[email protected]
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      242 years ago

      Wait a minute, the “Elders of the Internet”!? The Elders of the Internet know who I am!? You’ve got to let me have it!

      • macniel
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        132 years ago

        no no. The Elders of the Internet would never stand for that! The Internet needs to get straight back to Big Ben.

  • SamXavia
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    992 years ago

    @gohixo9650 I turned off my ad blocker by accident the other day and freaked out as the internet was unbearable.

    • @[email protected]
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      302 years ago

      I always forget about my adblocker until I need to use a browser without one. It’s really pretty miserable.

      • Jamie
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        132 years ago

        I helped someone I know out with a thing on their computer and got blasted by ads because they didn’t use an ad blocker.

        Those two minutes on the Internet really had me questioning how anyone manages to use it raw without going insane.

        • @[email protected]
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          112 years ago

          Maybe if we tell them uBlock Origin is a condom for their browser, they’ll understand?

          What a sentence to type out

          • Jamie
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            62 years ago

            I see it that way. You don’t dive into some strange without protection, don’t let your computer do it with websites.

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              It’s always difficult with digital matters, since there isn’t anything tangible and concrete to show.

              Like, there’s no shady person following them with a notebook and reporting back to their boss all day, but that is kinda what’s happening, just invisible to the user.

              My pihole is pretty good at showing family how many connections their apps make are completely unnecessary to their actual functions. That’s a good illustration to start with.

    • @[email protected]
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      612 years ago

      Me everytime i use a broswer without ublock. Ill open a link here in lemmy without opening it externally to firefox and dear god my eyes.

      Ublock makes the internet a better place. Or at least it shoves the bad stuff under the bed lol.

  • @[email protected]
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    702 years ago

    As I recall, back in the late 90s there was a story in the Wall Street Journal about a man who loved receiving email spam. After a long day’s work he would go home and relax by looking through his email spam and order things.

    Some people are just like that.

    • Khrux
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      92 years ago

      I don’t like spam but I do like a good scam email, especially if they’ve actually given it some plot.

    • @[email protected]
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      22 years ago

      Tbh, I can relate to some degree. Sometimes I really love watching TV commercials. My favorite is teleshopping

      • Ser Salty
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        12 years ago

        Infomercials are incredibly entertaining TV and I will stand by that statement

      • @[email protected]
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        22 years ago

        Yeah, when I watch sports events from other countries it’s interesting to see the commercials, even if I don’t speak the language. It’s when I have to watch 20 minutes of the same commercials every hour that it gets bad.

  • @[email protected]
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    142 years ago

    I don’t have adblock on my work computer. I don’t want it interfering with webdev and I’ve found it to do so in the past. But it’s interesting, the dichotomy between sites I use as development resources vs the rest of the web. My phone and home computer are unbearable without adblock, but on my work computer, the ads are hardly noticeable really.

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      Its ultimately based on the sites you frequent at work vs home. The sites i read stuff at work tend to be less in your face with ads,.so you know its there but theyre less distracting.

      • @[email protected]
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        62 years ago

        A few well placed and tasteful ads are fine. And sites you tend to read at work show it can be done.

      • @[email protected]
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        32 years ago

        I imagine developers are more likely to use ad block than majority population, so the related sites might have to be more tactical

  • @[email protected]
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    2262 years ago

    My retired parents live with me. I went ahead and put a PiHole on our home wifi. A day later my mother was literally complaining that she couldn’t click on ads on facebook. I told her those are ads and they track her and she says “well everyone likes to use the internet how they like to use it… can you put it back the old way? I want to look at these shoes”. Can’t fucking win.

      • @[email protected]
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        The ads on Facebook (and many other sites) are served from the same site as the actual content. So if you try to block ads with pihole it will stop the website from loading any posts.

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      52 years ago

      Hi, butting in here, hope you don’t mind a question - is there a place to go with basic I instructions on how I can set this up too? Thanks!

      • @[email protected]
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        42 years ago

        Yeah for sure. I’m no expert by any means, but I can talk through what I did.

        I used the instructions directly from their code repository: https://github.com/pi-hole/pi-hole/#one-step-automated-install (I used option 1, the automated install). I did this on an old RPi2B that I had laying around.

        After I set up the pi, I got its MAC address. I used this to set a static IP address in my router settings. This is important to make sure the pi keeps the same IP at all times. Then, also in my router settings, I set the DNS server to be the pi’s static IP address.

        After all that was done, I just plugged the pi into a dedicated power supply and rebooted the router.

    • @[email protected]
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      1652 years ago

      My wife turns off the WiFi on her phone to avoid the pihole. She does this so she can watch the ads in her games to get an extra life or whatever. You’ll never win on that front and I won’t either.

    • Stantana
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      When you were a kid and lived with your parents, did they have rules to protect you even if you didn’t always agree with them?

      Their time was. Now it’s your time. You’re brought up in this world which is foreign to them. You know the the way clownworld works.

      It is the ultimate boomerism to dismiss dangers they have no clue about in the face of those who have intimate knowledge.

      They might look at shoes today, remedies for hereditary illnesses the next day. It’s all logged and connected to them and their family.

      Everybody wants to do what they want in the way that they want. If you say you can’t win, then who is really the head of the household?

      • Name is Optional
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        212 years ago

        Spot on. I was incredulous when they told me they each sent their cheek swabs in to the “free to be me”, the population tracking group 🌊 👁️a. Now I understand that that same company’s entire database is on the dark 🕸️.

    • @[email protected]
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      2 years ago

      People actually CLICK on ads??? Genuinely never had even an iota of desire to do that. I forgot it was even an option.

      • @[email protected]
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        172 years ago

        I do when it is advertising something I hate. Publishers get dollars for clicks, pennies for impressions. That way I force someone I dislike to give money to someone I like.

        • Jamie
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          262 years ago

          I use adnauseum on my computer so it blocks the ads, but also sends a request simulating a click to the ad network. Based on average CPM, I’ve cost advertisers like $300 so far.

          • @[email protected]
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            62 years ago

            Interesting. But wouldn’t that still decrease my privacy? Advertisers still won’t know which ads I’m interested in, but they will know what sites I visit and can still build a profile from that data.

            • Fushuan [he/him]
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              52 years ago

              Some people care more about fucking advertisers than privacy, as long as they don’t have to suffer through the ads themselves. But yeah, blocking is more private than fake clicking.

            • @[email protected]
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              82 years ago

              Yes but Google banned them from the extension store so if you’re using Chromium you need to sideload it.

            • @[email protected]
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              122 years ago

              Yep. The developer recommends to run it in stead of rather than alongside uBlock Origin, though, which is a dealbreaker for me 🤷

              • @[email protected]
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                112 years ago

                That’s because it’s built on top of uBlock. If you click on the extension it even has the uBlock logo. It’s literally just uBlock except it clicks on ads in the background. It even tells you how much projected money you cost them for clicking their shitty ads. And the websites gets paid. Only the advertisers get shafted.

                Honestly I’m astonished it’s not more popular.

                • @[email protected]
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                  122 years ago

                  So you’re saying that it does literally everything uBlock does AND fucks over advertisers?

                  If there’s an option to shaft specific sites run by people you dislike too, I’m in! 😄

      • @[email protected]
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        262 years ago

        Boomers that aimlessly surf facebook. They’re still trying to figure out what the use-cases are for the internet thingy they pay $60 a month for.

    • Flax
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      82 years ago

      Great aunt was talking about all of these anti-aging pills that she was going to get

    • Fushuan [he/him]
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      112 years ago

      “I’ll try to fix it. Now that I put it in taking it down brings the Internet down. Sorry, let me think how to fix this”

      And literally put up excuses until they get used to it. I’m sorry but they made you do stuff you didn’t enjoy for your own good while telling white lies, it’s time for payback.

    • Boozilla
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      272 years ago

      I got a lot of complaints from family, too. Especially because I block Meta. I just let them bitch and I tell them things like “those ads are broken because of malware” which isn’t entirely untrue.

    • @[email protected]
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      112 years ago

      I know it’s rare, but there have been times I intentionally clicked on an ad - if it genuinely seemed like a unique or useful product I had some interest in.

      I imagine the fake-social-post type of ads are worth blocking though since it’s based in dishonesty and deception.

      • Jamie
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        92 years ago

        I block ads on all my devices, but I assume they’re scams by default when I do see them.

      • andrew_bidlaw
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        72 years ago

        Some shops I only used once still send me their written newsletters and I don’t mind checking them if they do them entertaining, or about some niche products, even if I don’t consider buying them at all. I miss well-designed full-page print ads in magazines, or just those with a catchy imagery\wording. Now these all feel like a vintage, premium product, akin to vinyl records, if compared to what garbage web serves today. Such a weird thing to be nostalgic about, but I hope oldschool advertisers\smm persons feel it on their end too.

        • Flax
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          42 years ago

          I get Royal Mint and Royal Mail news leaflets. I just like looking at pictures of stamps and coins lmao

    • @[email protected]OP
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      182 years ago

      but this means that she would see the ads but not being able to click? I don’t get it. They should had just disappeared, no? Or was she complaining that she wasn’t seeing the ads?

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        162 years ago

        The ads still appear in the facebook feed but clicking them results in a “this site could not be found” or similar error, is how I understood it to work. I know the PiHole basically makes it so the routes from “whateveradwebsite.com” end up not resolving to an IP address. I’m not sure how FB is serving them; so the text/image content might be coming from an FB server and the link is just an ad URL with a bunch of tracking info on it.

        • @[email protected]OP
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          132 years ago

          yeah you’re right actually. I always use it combined with a local browser adblock and didn’t think of that

      • @[email protected]
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        92 years ago

        PiHole just blocks the DNS. Facebook serves ads from their own DNS so it’s not possible to block them in that way. Same with YouTube, I believe.

        But if they click it, it usually ports you through a tracker link so they can track your clicks, and that’s easy enough to block.

      • Stantana
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        42 years ago

        I interpret it as she used to see add, they’re gone and she misses them.

        • @[email protected]
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          No. Google search results still show sponsored links. But if you then click on them it breaks. Same thing for FB. The links are served from Facebook.Com and so they are not flagged as ads.

          So she is likely getting exactly what she searched for and then it breaks after clicking on it

          • @[email protected]OP
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            42 years ago

            yeah you’re right actually. I always use it combined with a local browser adblock and didn’t think of that

          • Stantana
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            Good point, I think I’ve just mentally suppressed the search result add and didn’t think about them at all.

            I’m surprised about the FB ads though, some newspapers over here tried the same and serve ads from the main domain… After two-three days the filter maintainers figured out how to block then as well.

    • 𝕸𝖔𝖘𝖘
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      182 years ago

      Kind of like smartphones today with an app for literally every friggin thing.

      • Kumatomic
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        132 years ago

        All the better to track you with so you have no choice but to agree and agree to their arbitration clauses if you want to use their and their competitors’ products with no alternative to avoid it. Sometimes you can’t even use the mobile site when so many services and businesses have flat out broken their mobile sites just to force the app. I don’t like DuckDuckGo’s browser but I use it to block trackers in the background.

        • 𝕸𝖔𝖘𝖘
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          22 years ago

          This is correct. I use ddg for the same reason, and the “Desktop site” option for those little shits that broke their mobile site to force the app. If that option doesn’t work, I leave the site.

          • @[email protected]
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            22 years ago

            I found that Firefox mobile with adblocker solves 100% of my advlock issues, and usually fixes format and display issues with websites. Half the websites I view on chrome mobile don’t even fit on my screen anymore!

            • 𝕸𝖔𝖘𝖘
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              12 years ago

              Last time I tried ff mobile, it was sluggish, and had no extensions. I’m guessing they fixed those issues? I like ddg mobile browser well enough, but I’d love to use ff on my mobile, too. And, yes, I did notice those formatting issues. I thought it was just bad design, but it’s the chrome engine? Interesting. Not at all surprising, though, but interesting.

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      Yes, typical screens from these years, from a user who, as a newbie in the Internet, clicked on these beautiful banners and animations that were on certain pages with nice freeware stuff, screensavers, games, funny Powerpoints, etc… Nowadays these things do not appear and you can only notice that the PC goes every time slower and you know that you belong to the big family of the botnet community.

    • @[email protected]
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      Ah this brings back the memories of the race to close pop-ups as you can hear your parents coming home. For every one you close, three pop up to take it’s place. You can hear the key in the lock. Sweat pouring down your face you finally do it, you hit the last X and nothing new pops up. You have defeated the pop-ups… this time.

  • lorez
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    222 years ago

    I’m noticing some sites have become pretty unusable on mobile and I dunno what to do.

          • I use Firefox on my desktop and laptop devices. I’ve tried using Firefox on Android. It’s slow, and breaks on some sites. If you use it, good for you. I’m not gonna use it just for virtue signalling.

              • I don’t know the technical reasons. Probably due to people optimizing their pages for Chromium, since it’s the de facto standard. Most pages load slower on Firefox for me. Chromium based browsers are usually better. Also, most websites of Indian government break for me on Firefox. It’s probably their fault, not Firefox’s. But I don’t want to deal with the annoyance. Everything seems to work most of the time on desktop, though.

            • Gormadt
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              I’ve never had issues with Firefox on Android, and because I use Firefox on desktop I can sync my browsers between devices

              Honestly I find it faster on my phone than chrome

            • Scary le Poo
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              I have literally never had any of these issues with Firefox on Android

            • fckgwrhqq2yxrkt
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              12 years ago

              Stop making things up to justify your poor decisions. Caring about privacy and security isn’t “virtue signaling”, its just a good idea.

              • ѕєχυαℓ ρσℓутσρє
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                Bruh. I do care about privacy and security. Otherwise I would’ve used Chrome or Brave. Stop acting like anything except Firefox is trash. (That is the virtue signalling part.) They’re not. I’d be happy if Firefox suited my needs on Android. I’m sorry that I can’t change my experience just because you say so.

                • fckgwrhqq2yxrkt
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                  Firefox is very likely the best suggestion for people on android who have those concerns. I’m sorry it didn’t work out for you but that’s what you are seeing here, people reccomending the best option. No one is telling you can’t use whatever you want.

    • @[email protected]
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      12 years ago

      If you don’t need access to another VPN, Blokada does device-wide ad blocking on iOS and Android.

  • cally [he/they]
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    212 years ago

    remember when youtube ads were those banners that appeared on the video and had a close button