Liam repeating NATO talking points. Guests saying drivel like “AMLO is liberal trump”
When will @wtypstan answer for the crimes of the podcast.
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Their username is “wtypstan” ?!
This whole time I’ve been thinking its wytpplstan (white people stan)! I feel like such a fool!
stanaccount04we’re not stanning crackers here
Well is there really a functional difference
Wytpplstan, land of the Wytppl
I enjoy the engineering stuff, and the general consensus that most of these problems are solvable but caused by the incentive structures of global capitalism.
But their foreign policy analysis is often atrocious, and it’s a bit hard when they’re my introduction to a foreign historical event or figure to know how seriously to take them.
engineering podcast trying to be political
podcasters
I gave this pod a shot back in like 2020. Had to stop, it’s just so boring and when they finally get to the topic it’s still boring.
the only episode i could even make it 10% of the way through was groverhaus
The 9/11 episode was in the middle of recording when the news broke that Ginsburg was dead. Worth a listen.
I keep saying that we somehow need to make Rocz’s joker laugh an emoji sound file somehow
the best thing they ever did was that time they found out RBG died in the middle of recording an episode and everyone started cackling maniacally
No, only Justin, the best member
Also, the latest TF episode Alice was really bringing the lib shit in from wtyp
Related: how Is Milo Edwards, someone who has lived in Russia, so goddamn ignorant about the Ukraine war?
The energy he gives off about his time in Russia is strongly sexpat vibes. Like showing up in the shitty post-Communism era to run rampant over the country, “partying” it up and shit.
Milo Edwards
His russian friends are so sus, like that chick he knows is the daughter of one of the chief architects of shock therapy
I had to stop watching entirely after they had that adam someone guy on. Around then I noticed Alice and Liam in particular would have a new, anti-communist, historically illiterate take on the USSR to parrot in practically every episode. Really glad I didn’t stick around long enough to see their takes on the Ukraine war, I’m sure that only made this tendency of theirs a million times worse.
I used to really love the show, it sucks it turned out this way.
I enjoy Alice but understand that she’s not everyone’s favorite, but agree with others that I just don’t understand what Liam adds into the episodes.
You can give him credit for handling YouTube commenters the way they deserve but I don’t see how that should turn into a hosting role. He doesn’t add anything and just interrupts.
There are sometimes bad takes on the podcast. Since I took this name, I’ve moved further left. I can forgive basically every episode except for the palace of the parliament one, which is godawful. The Berlin Wall episode also did such a poor job talking about Nazis in West Germany that it almost makes my list too.
Is that the one about Ceaucesku? I’ve heard that one brought up multiple times but knew nothing about him besides their take. What do they get wrong? I’d genuinely appreciate being deprogrammed.
That’s the one. Adam Something is a cowardly fascist who has called the Soviets worse than the Nazis. He claims to be “deradicalized” but I think he just put the NATO mask back on. The guy sucks and earned the title Azov Something for a reason.
Adolf Something says communism failed cause the Russians never got the enlightenment
They’re know nothing losers except one who knows about buildings and things, and are bags of weird contradictions
Did you expect good takes about anything other than buildings falling down?
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They’re fine, a bit lib but they’re fucking podcasters so what do you expect. Even fucking Hakim has lib takes on occasion. Aside from the fucking Adam Something episode I’ve not heard anything I’ve not heard from a paid up card carrying org member when they’re on a roll of bad takes.
I think we do sometimes have to remember that when you’re extremely online in a public way, every bad take is gonna be used against you, forever. Even the ones you forget. I shudder to think of what it would be like if every bad take I’ve ever had on Hexbear was dredged up every time I posted.
That’s why I only ever post good takes
I wish they’d replace Liam. He doesn’t really add anything in general and his politics are so far to the right of the other two hosts. It’s like bring your kid to work day.
Aside from being a loud mouthed lib and talking over the other, funnier hosts, what did Liam do? Or does that pretty much cover it? I’ve heard a lot of people talk about disliking him.
There’s that and he just doesn’t contribute much in terms of the group dynamic. Rocz is the engineering expert and narrator, Alice is the polymath theory nerd who brings jokes, the guest is the subject matter expert, and Liam is just… an arbitrary guy from Philly who is weirdly attached to both of his co-hosts. He derails most episodes multiple times and it isn’t usually for any good reason.
If you subbed him out for a sandwich, would the quality of the podcast suffer?
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Probably wouldn’t even notice for a couple episodes if he was.
So we have an engineer and a semi-lawyer, who else would you put on there as your dream replacement for Liam? Can’t be too funny because Alice is already class clown so to speak.
They could still have a wild card guy like Brace in Trueanon, Jake in Qanon Anonymous, or Henry in Last Podcast on the Left. That wild card guy just can’t be obnoxious or derail the podcast. Maybe get some radical urbanist or a political economy nerd in terms of contribution, or just a non-obnoxious normal schmuck who will yell the same radical things I want to yell. Someone like Adam Conover or the Crime Pays But Botany Doesn’t guy would be the ideal. When Alice has historian Patrick Wyman on Trash Future he’s also a good fit for their dynamic.
Yeah my first thought was a radical urbanist too. Brace being on wtyp would be like the avengers of left podcasts
You don’t need a replacement. The sweet spot for number of people in a podcast is two hosts plus the guest. Three hosts is already too crowded unless one of the host rarely talks and is more like a side commentator than an actual host.
If you subbed him out for a sandwich, would the quality of the podcast suffer?
Depends on the sandwich
I’d take Liam over a PB&J, a Reuben might not be a bad replacement, I’d pay for a higher patreon tier for a BLT instead of Liam
I mean, being very reactionary does matter when they are discussing a Soviet project or anything else AES
Agreed, and the other two can already be reactionary enough on their own sometimes.
I guess I just have my lib-filter dialed in, tuning out all but the most egregious examples. I don’t expect much more from podcasts.
Liam’s dad has better takes than Liam
Bring Liam’s dad on
Liam’s dad go on chapo
episode 200 should be liam’s dad dunking on the other 199 episodes
There was an episode where he drops off halfway to watch a fking baseball game lol
Based tbh
It was a premium episode too lol
(I pirated it)
Pros: Liam is gone for an episode
Cons: Liam is getting money
Nah dude he was still randomly butting in about how the yankees are winning because he’s watching it on his tv while still recording
you could replace Liam with a Markov chain bot and it would be an improvement
Like my dad always used to tell me
The people you spend time with says a lot more about you than your mouth does
Of course, he’d say it in Spanish and usually because I hung out with the goth kids in school
My mom would say
dime con quién andas y te diré quién eres
mejor solo que mal acompañado
That’s a good one
Rocz and Liam are best friends irl, big time drinking buddies, codependent alcoholics, and Liam regularly alleges that his alcohol addiction saved him from his heroin addiction. So good luck getting him off that podcast lol. Any time Roczniak has been approached about what an asshole Liam is he goes full “I will always defend my friends!!!” mode.
As a person who has dealt with addiction and has been friends with other addicts, codependent friendships based on addiction typically end up very well :) especially when one friend has a worse addiction than the other
Ppl here like to shit on Chapo, (rightfully in many cases)
But they have never been as bad as these 3 chucklefucks
And chapo is actually an edited product and isnt like 30% dead air and ppl talking over each other
Chapo’s politics have generally gotten better over time. I took a year or two off from listening and when I returned I was shocked how their politics sort of kept pace with mine (not as good, but not relatively worse than before).
