Honestly I don’t know what’s going on in the USA. You’re so proud of your “democracy and freedom” yet one of your 2 political parties is able to effectively dismantle the entire thing in less than a decade. You’re now one election away from being a christofascist state.

…and yet you’re all just going to work tomorrow. You’re all doing pretty much nothing except “make sure you vote in 2024.” So I guess every 4 years you’re going to be one election away from a literal Nazi takeover?

I don’t know. Riot or something. I have no idea how you’re all coping so hard.

  • @[email protected]
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    One election? Ourr current president is denying genocide. How exactly does one get more fascist than that?

  • @[email protected]
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    Well, it’s the weekend, so, I’m going to do homework and play video games.

    Frankly, fuck America. Most of the country clearly wants this. So I’ll let them have it. And sure, I might die, but then I’ll be done with all this bullshit and won’t have worry anymore. And when the people who wanted the dystopia the US will become have a change of heart and realize they manufactured their own chains and locked them before throwing away the key, I’ll only regret I won’t be here to say I told you so.

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      Most people don’t want this. Most people are one paycheck or emergency away from financial ruin. There is no social safety net and most workers have long hours, long commutes and not enough days off. No one can get off of the treadmill because they’ll end up homeless, starving or unable to get needed medical care.

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        The esteemed privilege of potentially dying in the new American hellscape! You must envy me so much!

        Really, it’s what apathy about my countrymen and women looks like. I really think we hate each other. While many on the left continue to prove me wrong to this very moment, and I see them, I honestly do not think they’ll win in the end.

    • @[email protected]
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      Things are always more dramatized in the media than they actually are.

      Are you trying to say Trumpeltier did not send his clone warriors to that riot there?

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        plan would perform a quick takeover of the entire U.S. federal government

        Because that worked so well last time, didn’t it?

        This reads more like “jesus is coming next year!” nonsense that has been repeated every few years. The insane people eat it up, nothing happens, and ‘oh no we meant next year’ rinse and repeat.

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            Possible, sure. With these clowns, not a chance in hell. Now you show me a credible threat - not this nonsense - and I’ll get out of my chair and start shoving my cane up people’s asses with glee.

            But this ain’t it chief.

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            “it isn’t going to happen here.”

            The line is “it can’t happen here”

            The difference being the complacency you speak of - we don’t assume it can’t happen.

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      We are usually not given a good example of how bad things actually happen. We imagine the barbarians storming the gate, raping and pillaging. That does happen, but more often, things getting worse is more complicated, and it affects different people at different times.

      For the one in five (!!) children facing hunger, our society has failed. For a poor person with diabetes and no medical insurance, our society has already failed. For an uber driver with no family support whose car broke down and missed rent, facing an eviction, society is about to break down for them. I’m a dude in my mid thirties that writes code, so for me, things are fine, but if I get hit by a bus tomorrow and lose the ability to use my hands, society will probably fail for me.

      More and more people are experiencing that failure. Most of us are fine, but our being fine is becoming incredibly fucking precarious. More often than not, society collapsing looks like a daily constitution saving throw that becomes harder and harder to pass, and more and more of us who have a stroke of bad luck here or there fail.

      Understanding society this way is important, and it’s why solidarity is the foundation of leftist politics. I march for people without healthcare because I care about them, and also, because there but for the grace of god go I. Bakunin put this beautifully almost 200 years ago:

      I am truly free only when all human beings, men and women, are equally free. The freedom of other men, far from negating or limiting my freedom, is, on the contrary, its necessary premise and confirmation.

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        I’m a dude in my mid thirties that writes code, so for me, things are fine, but if I get hit by a bus tomorrow and lose the ability to use my hands, society will probably fail for me.

        Just in case that happens, don’t hesitate a second, don’t feed your flawed system a single dime, but buy tickets to a decent country with your nose and get affordable healthcare in one of the hundred+ countries you can visit visa-free. Returning is optional.

        Signed: a dude in his mid-thirties that writes code, has lost the ability to use his hands for months twice so far and genuinely worries about holders of one of the most travel-suited passports seemingly being brainwashed into thinking they’re chained to freedomland or something.

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          Have you actually done what you’re suggesting? Because my understanding is that it is incredibly difficult to immigrate with a disability, even if you have useful skills. Profoundly more so if your disability has made you unable to work.

          • monk
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            Without going into much details: yes, but it seems like you’re speaking of a permanent disability, while I had temporary disability in mind when I was writing that. A permanent one would require changing careers and a chunk of a lifestyle so large that emigration is peanuts in comparison.

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          Ha, thank you. Fortunately for me, I’m a dual citizen, with family happy to have me anytime. I suspect that day will come, though I really , really love the life and community I’ve built where I am and will be devastated to leave it.

          I wish you many years of good health, friend!

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      One political party is publicly admitting they’re over the whole democracy thing and the former president is a Russian money-laundering asset who launched a coup and walked away without consequence.

      Our political situation is one of the few things substantially more dramatic than the media portrayal.

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    This is just fearmongering hyperbole. America has been in much worse circumstances and it persevered.

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        1812 when the Whitehouse was burning. The great depression/dustbowl. Mccartyism era, Vietnam War, Civil rights protests and race riots…

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          I’m not overly familiar with any of these. During those crisis, was anyone serious about abolishing the institutions of the United States? McCarthy at least seems to have used the institutions to his ideology.

        • xenu
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          Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.

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          A better comparison may be the inequality before the civil war. Which was then improved by fighting a war about it.

          So it may also get wayyy worse before it gets better again.

          (Though I also agree with the assessment that it’s pretty overdramatized by the media)

  • xenu
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    I would run like hell if I had somewhere to go.

  • Ashu
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    What happened this time around? I don’t keep up with the news.

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    IMO the issue is that the USA fought socialism to such an extreme that they created a culture of extreme individualism. Everyone thinks they’re more important than their neighbor.

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    I’m chilling. Legit my biggest source of anxiety is doomscrolling. There’s always some crisis going on, but when I look at my life and people around me, we’re all doin pretty well.

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    …and yet you’re all just going to work tomorrow.

    Now that’s where you’re wrong, buddy. Tomorrow’s Sunday.

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      Yes. Sunday is for working on your side hustle to try to actually get ahead instead of just treading water and trying to pay rent on time.

      • Spaz
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        That’s not a side hustle, that’s a second job.

    • JJROKCZ
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      A lot of us work on Sunday still, I personally work 6-7 days a week and have since covid shutdowns let up

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      And on Sunday the people in the US go to church like the good Christians they are. Afterwards they will abuse the staff at their local food dispenser, because they are pieces of shit that don’t even go to church.

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    Same thing as you apparently, we just distract ourselves by the state of the rest of the world and see it could be worse.

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    we got tired of you all being so complacent about always being able to count on us for the really hard shit… that, and there aren’t any really worthy opponents out there at the moment, so we’re fighting ourselves just to stay in shape…

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      we [who?] got tired of you all [who?]

      As I recall, the US waves their paper dick around and gets into shit its not involved in, because paper dick. The US gets into wars it can’t win, goes into countries where it has no business, occupies countries under the veil of “fighting terrorism” like its trying to police the world, all while the vast majority of elected officials are so stupid that they still believe their sky man is real and santa really does visit them.

      The US is the annoying kid in class who tries to tell everyone what to do and starts drama with everyone. Wave that paper dick proudly, like it’s worth something.

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    I don’t know. Riot or something. I have no idea how you’re all coping so hard.

    Sorry. I have a family to feed.

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    I wouldn’t listen to the everything is exaggerated and it is really just fine. We are boiling frogs.

    Our economy hasn’t collapsed, so there isn’t going to be any dramatics like a movie or show

    Rioting won’t do anything. The GOP voters and media outlets will frame at as anything that isn’t far right is bad.

    In many ways, things are bad. We have large parts of the country completely dependent on cars. One of our chief judiciaries should be impeached. A former state governor actually faced criminal charges for far less than Clarence Thomas has been doing. The GOP is trying to dismantle public schools via privatization/vouchers, textbook manipulation, and gagging teachers. The GOP just might nominate Trump even though he is facing so many lawsuits his nickname should be The Defendant.

    Right now, the Democrats far outnumber the GOP, buy the GOP has way better turn out. Saying vote constantly is to use our best defense, overwhelmingly defeats of these people in the elections. If all eligible voters voted, things would be quite different

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        lol did you say “white skinned” as if it meant “red blooded”? because I really hope you are just oblivious to how fucked up that sounds

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        Registration is something the far right pushes for because it keeps “the wrong people” from voting. It usually coincides with them closing down voting centers and keeping people from registering in minority heavy areas.

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        Registering to vote takes less time than filling out the forms at a dental visit.

        What does being white have to do with anything?

        ID is just to identify you, it has nothing to do with voter eligibility.

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            Yeah, but how do the people at the ballot box know you’re american? Many, many non-americans are also causasians whites … and many, many americans aren’t.

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            What’s to stop you from voting multiple times? Or voting as someone else? Or someone else voting as you? That last one actually happened to me during a presidential election in my home state.

            I don’t think it was part of some deep state plot to steal my vote, I’m betting some distracted volunteer at the polling place accidentally crossed off the wrong name and handed someone else my ballot. But still, it seems to me that if we can give out free IDs (which is a thing in my state) then there’s no downside in checking them during voting in person.

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              I think the question was more about „Why do i have to register to be able to vote?“

              Which is a good question. In germany we don‘t have to register to vote at any level. Once we‘re 18 and are registered citizens (the latter part is indeed a problem for immigrants due to bureaucracy), we get to vote.

              We get a letter informing us where our local poll station is and then go there. A poll helper then crosses our names off a list once we‘re there and our ID is validated. Or we use the included ballot and send the letter back for mail-in voting. We can also have someone else vote for us if, say, the accessibility measures at the local poll station still don‘t suffice.

              Germany isn‘t a perfect state but i personally think they make damn sure that you can vote. And it‘s really problematic that the ostensibly democratic US doesn‘t nearly put as much effort into enabling people to vote.

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      Oh, and don’t forget: things are so gerrymandered that Democrats usually have to win something like 2/3 to 3/4 of the popular vote in a state to get over 50% in their state legislatures.

      I am not exaggerating. This is a real thing.