Most low income people were materially better off under Trump, whose pandemic policies resulted in the lowest childhood poverty rate since the 90s. (These welfare policies were cancelled or expired under Biden.)
Dems will still assume 3rd party and non-voters have a strong Biden preference.
If not for the pandemic, he wouldn’t have done any of it. It wasn’t a particular position of Trump’s to give that money, he just was in the position to do so at a time of crisis.
Material conditions!
The intent doesn’t change the reality. If your kid only had food to eat because of a Trump policy and you’re presented with a choice between him and a nigh-identical ancient piece of shit, which one do you think you’re going to pull the lever for?
But how many people are going to see it that way vs just “Trump instated these programs that helped us, Biden took them away.”?
Very few. Talking to rural Americans and a common thing they’ll say is, “I remember the economy being a lot better under Trump.”
Doesn’t apply to me because I’m “not a real leftist” lol. We’re real leftists when it comes time to blame the left for shit but we’re “not real leftists” when it comes time to convince everyone to support establishment Democrats.
Also, its literally an entire calendar year until the election. Trump was at 2% right now in 2015. Polls don’t really mean shit rn and I would never underestimate an incumbent.
I was banned from two different lemmyworld political coms for being against this kinda shit lol
well done
Nah, havent you heard? The dems won the Kentucky governors race by a few points so absolutely nothing has to change and Biden will breeze to victory in all the swing states polls say hes seriously underwater in
Obama had a close election against Romney in 2012, but that was with Obama who has a lot more charisma than the wet noodle that’s Biden. Romney isn’t really charismatic and the only reason libs like him is because he’s “respectable.” Trump has genuine charm and anyone who says otherwise hasn’t spent a considerable amount of time in rural parts of the US where he’s still adored.
I don’t see why that should concern us. It was annoying to be blamed for 2016 because there was nominally an electoral left that was trying to win over “progressive” liberals. Getting tarred for spoiling the agenda of the party was counterproductive to the goal of improving the agenda of the party. Now that that strategy has failed utterly (largely because the non-voting population could not be convinced that that shit actually mattered) and the champions of the electoral left are riding the Sybian for AIPAC, it doesn’t really matter that we’re the enemies of the Most Progressive US President in History. Damn right we are. The whole thing’s a farce, and we only neutralize all hope of resistance by pretending otherwise.
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That shit was a pain. I was a died-in-the-wool liberal back in the day and I knew enough on history and general sentiment to see Hillary was a fucking evil joke.
Yeah. I’m cool with it. Fuck those fascist shitheads. Some
were handwaving “Genocide Joe” saying it was a GOP talking point. Fucking hell. I used to wonder, how could the Holocaust happen? How could so many people be complicit in something so horrible? I still don’t understand it, but I’m afraid I’m starting to.Liberals will blame three groups in this order: “Woke” leftists against genocide, Palestinian/Arab Americans, Black people
Probably any latinos that vote for Trump too. It happened in 2020 as well with neoliberal going from praising black voters for stopping Bernie to making racist comments about latinos for voting Trump in Florida.
Hey champ, can we maybe not talk about genocide right now?? Huh bud? Chief? Can we not do that while the most important election of our lifetimes is happening?? That ok buddy?
“Don’t let perfect be the enemy of being good”
where did you come from?
where did you go?
I’ll never vote for Genocide Joei’ve got that thing from kill bill where a siren goes off when I see someone’s face, but it’s cotton eyed joe when I see Genocide Joe
Isn’t Trump is leading in 5/6 swing states in recent polls?
Hilariously yes, against Biden.
Even more hilariously “generic unnamed democrat” is doing 13% better than Biden
yeah I mean senile pederastic ethnic-cleansing enabler seems a difficult sell atm tbf. This aint quite the Roman Empire.
At this point, does it even matter what their spin doctors and their strategic autopsies conclude? If an electoral system only presents two options against genocide: feverish support, or guilty complicitness then it’s fucking useless, it belongs in the garbage. It sucks that it took me a genocide to really really recognize how useless partisan electoralism is, because it’s hard to dispell the illusion that maybe it’ll give you some crumbs if the right guy comes along. Nope, not even in the face of genocide will it cede an inch.
They can line up along party lines because it spurs controversy, which increases turnout and publicity. There’s plenty of money floating to both sides to balance that out.
Our cowardly, self-serving politicians won’t dare bite the hand that feeds them. The Mossad is our second pair of eyes in the Middle East, and Israeli backed AIPAC money runs deep in American politics.
Nah he would most likely still win today imo because Trump can’t make a meaningful campaign that actualy attacks Biden from the left. The left can’t really make an anti-NATO stance that doesn’t boil down to real communism(good for movement building but you’ll never win at electorialism lol) and anything from the right is just poisoning the well.
But the main point is yeah the left will always be blamed. I can empathize that Bernie was the millennial voters first experience with this but anyone that is old enough to be politically active for the past 8 years doesn’t have an excuse to fall for this rhetoric anymore. If you’re still giving any shits about what libs say or think and let that affect your own decisions then you are also part of the problem.
Biden will most likely not win. Trump might not even have to run a meaningful campaign, he just has to keep his support while watching Biden’s support slip.
I’m expecting Islamophobia to become even more ingrained as usual with libs leading the charge and going “If Muslims didn’t want Islamophobia maybe they shouldn’t have voted for the Muslim ban president 💅”
This isn’t devil’s advocate this is parody
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spoiler
Leftists need to understand that genocide isn’t on the ballot and vote for what is
Imma be real with you, I’m not voting for a literal genocide supporter, regardless of what’s “on the ballot”.
“You have to vote for Hitler-lite or else Mega-Hitler will win.” I would simply not vote for a Hitler.
Explain that to Arab Americans. Make sure to do it in a welcoming and safe tone.
Do you want a public option? Make sure your key is turned just in case we flip seven states this time!
