• @[email protected]
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    02 years ago

    Pretty much any trait that awful people usually have. I feel these kind of people are pretty easy to spot usually.

    Lacking basic manners, can’t be bother to do small things that can help others, greedy to a point that hurts other and is OK with that, only looks at people as tools/resources, only argues to win instead of to teach/learn, and the list goes on forever.

    It becomes a lot harder to despise people if they don’t have any of the usual awful person traits.

    I do hate it when people ask to ask though, that always annoys me to no end. Just tell me what you need help with lol

  • @[email protected]
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    Manipulative ones. How do people not feel dirty when lying, coercing, and threatening to get what they want?

  • @[email protected]
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    Capitalist rent-seeking. Feeling entitled to make a profit off doing nothing except buying a resource other people need, because you already have enough money to do this. Maybe “despise a person beyond belief” is a bit strong, but I hate that people do this, and I hate that it’s condoned and even admired in capitalist societies.

    • @[email protected]
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      12 years ago

      If there were no homes to rent, where would people who can’t or don’t want to buy live?

      • @[email protected]
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        132 years ago

        I can’t speak for OP but I think in general the idea that “landlords shouldn’t exist” or whatever doesn’t just stop at eliminating rentals. There is more than enough housing in the US to house everyone here (and probably the world? if not, there’s enough resources to build housing for everyone), and it seems unjust to let people be homeless or exploit their need for shelter due to artificial scarcity.

        I like to think that most of us could agree that everyone deserves the dignity of having shelter regardless of what luck life has dealt them, even if we can’t immediately agree on how.

        • @[email protected]
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          12 years ago

          There is more than enough housing in the US to house everyone here

          Only if you assume that the entire country is a single market where specific location is largely irrelevant. The places where a lot of housing is available is usually because it’s not where people want to be. Like I could buy a house on main street in the town where my grandparents grew up for <$100,000. But do I want a small house in bumfuck nowhere that doesn’t have any land attached to it and requires significant upgrades and maintenance due to age? No, not particularly, especially because it would either mean a 2+ hour commute to a nearby major city or an entirely remote job.

      • Electric_Druid
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        72 years ago

        The abscence of landlords does not preclude the existence of housing. The house would still be there if there wasn’t a landlord attached to it.

        • @[email protected]
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          -32 years ago

          No it would just be a piece of land. The landlord bought the Land and built the house, without the landlord, it would be land owned by the government or a realty company.

          • Lux (it/they)
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            12 years ago

            In many cases, landlords buy already built houses and rent them out. The solution is to remove the landlord and give the house to the resident.

        • Melllvar
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          12 years ago

          You’re ignoring apartment blocks and similar high density developments.

          • my_hat_stinks
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            32 years ago

            I don’t follow, are you suggesting it’s impossible to own a single apartment in a block? As someone who lives in an apartment I own without owning the entire building, I can tell you that’s definitely false. You don’t need a landlord to make high density housing to work.

              • my_hat_stinks
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                12 years ago

                The people who own the apartments. Individual units have individual owners, shared areas have shared ownership by whoever owns the units unless specified otherwise. Maintenance of common areas is the shared responsibility of all owners.

              • @[email protected]
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                12 years ago

                Would imagine it’s an HOA situation.

                There’s a company that owns the land, and it’s sole purpose is to maintain the land and common areas of the building. All the units could be individually owned, and that company exists to have a bank account that can pay for repairs/repaints. In this situation I’m describing, while the company would own the building, they have no ability to raise rents, as all the units would be owned by the tenants.

                • Melllvar
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                  22 years ago

                  That sounds an awful lot like a landlord. And if no rent is being collected, where is the money for the bank account coming from?

      • anaximander
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        152 years ago

        Let’s imagine there was somehow zero rental market. Imagine there was a law against purchasing a dwelling and then not actually using it as your residence. People still need to live somewhere, so there would be a demand for housing. People would see a profit in meeting that demand, so someone would build and sell housing. Currently, those who can’t afford to buy a home have rental as a cheap alternative. Without that, there would be an open niche for something to meet the need for housing. There would be a market pressure to solve the discrepancy between the price of housing and the available capital of the average person. House prices might be forced down, salaries might be forced up, I don’t know what would happen precisely but there would be a pressure to make it possible for people to live somewhere.

        You can see evidence for this in what happened in a lot of major cities. People have been able to use one home that they own as collateral in buying a second, and then use the income from renting it out to pay that off plus a little profit. That leaves them with two properties as collateral and a little cash spare, making it easier to do it again with a more expensive place. Rinse and repeat and you’ve got wealthy landlords buying up all the properties so there’s no need for the people selling those properties to drop prices to where first-time buyers can afford them - the usual dynamics of supply and demand that keep prices in reach of buyers have been disrupted, and the two types of buyer separate into two tiers that get pushed further apart, getting harder and harder for people to jump from the lower tier to the upper. This is how you end up with people paying £1000 in rent while the bank tells them they can’t have a £700-a-month mortgage because they can’t afford it, and that £1000 a month leaves them nothing left over to save up for the £30,000 deposit they’d need anyway. The market pressure that led to this situation are obvious, and reversing those pressures is the most obvious way to fix the situation.

    • Chrissie
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      22 years ago

      This is what makes me sometimes unsure whether I should offer monetary help if I don’t know the person intimately enough to judge this sufficiently.

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    Cutting others off excessively. It’s normal when you’re in a large enough group for there to be some overlap, but some people do it constantly and are only interested in hearing themselves speak. Makes being around them impossible since I often have trouble speaking up anyways.

    Edit: I took instantly to mean on first meeting them, so I may have interpreted the question wrong lol

    Edit2: I also should’ve been a bit more careful with my words, as this kind of behavior can be attributed to an anxiety response and isn’t always done out of apathy. I really apologize if I offended anyone by overgeneralizing.

    • @[email protected]
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      112 years ago

      I used to do this to everyone, all the goddamned time. Then I got diagnosed with ADHD and I become a lot more self-aware of my behaviors.

      I worked so fucking hard to learn ways to get ahead of or sidestep my urges. Now when other people do it around me it irritates me way, way more than it ever did before.

    • user1919
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      42 years ago

      I am very self aware of this when talking with my friends so I just keep mind notes when I get overwhelmed with ideas.

      • CurseBunny [she/her]
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        42 years ago

        I do think it’s really okay to speak up there’s something you want to say! I really must stress that I only think its problematic if no one else can actually converse because of them and it’s a chronic thing.

    • @[email protected]
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      12 years ago

      A big part of this can be the family people grew up in. I have a few friends who interrupt constantly because that’s just how their family has conversations.

    • 𞋴𝛂𝛋𝛆
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      The behavior often indicates they are not very balanced in general and are over expressing themselves kinda like a coping mechanism. If they realize that it is happening, they are probably quite uncomfortable with it too.

      I didn’t have issues with stuff like this before I was disabled. After spending most of the last 10 years in near total isolation, I have a hard time shutting up any time anyone is willing to talk with me IRL. The worst part is that I’m usually trying my best to mask my level of pain and I go down hill fast. By the end of an average casual conversation I’m down to half the wit needed to end the conversation gracefully, and my graceful half has already left.

      After watching how people dealt with covid isolation, I think I have handled it pretty well. Now I have a lot more empathy for people dealing with this kind of social anxiety. It’s still annoying as hell, even when I am the one doing it, but understanding the condition helps blunt my angst.

      • CurseBunny [she/her]
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        122 years ago

        Hey, that’s fair. I hadn’t considered that in casting this net I could be catching people who are quite anxious and speaking to fill the silence. Admittedly I am saying this with a handful of specific people I’ve met in mind, and in their particular cases it was more reflective of their narcissistic tendencies than any sort of anxious response, but I realize in retrospect that it can also be coping behavior. I hope I didn’t offend either way, and I’ll keep this in mind in the future.

    • @[email protected]
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      22 years ago

      To extend on this, I know some people who actually speak louder precisely when they do this. It’s hard for me to say whether its intentional on their part, but it certainly feels that way - and a bit malicious too. Kind of like “What I have to say is more important than what you were going to say”. That aggravates me because at that point it stops feeling like an accidental cut off which like you mentioned, can happen naturally on occasion.

      These days when people start doing this, I just completely stop talking and no longer further contribute to the conversation.

      Of course, when I try to carefully bring this up to said people (just in case it isn’t intended) I’m made out to be the bad guy which I really don’t understand.

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    Not being aware of others and how your actions and being affect them.

    Very simple example: fuckers who walk towards you on a sidewalk and don’t even blink (edit: I meant think but this is funny nonsense lol) about moving an inch to the side to avoid hitting you. Like looking straight past you not budging even a bit…

      • @[email protected]
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        32 years ago

        Even if you do bump into them they still act like no other person exists besides them, y’know?

        • @[email protected]
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          22 years ago

          Or when there is a group of people walking all side to side covering the whole pathway and you walk towards them, but they don’t move aside, as if they expect you to fly over them or just dissappear from the earth.

          Then you stand your ground and they look at you like you are at fault.

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        Recognising people other than you exist is the ultimate cowards move forreal forreal

    • Dandroid
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      22 years ago

      fuckers who walk towards you on a sidewalk and don’t even blink about moving an inch to the side to avoid hitting you. Like looking straight past you not budging not even a bit…

      I call those people Zax after the Dr. Seuss story.

  • daddyjones
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    312 years ago

    Any kind of snobbery/looking down on people - especially if it’s based on income or occupation.

  • @[email protected]
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    232 years ago

    I learned that my boss’s boss has never changed a diaper and he has three children. My opinion of him instantly hit rock bottom.

  • @[email protected]
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    52 years ago

    Behqving like my dad: whiny, removed, gaslighting Son of a moron who blames the person if their process doesn’t work.

  • @[email protected]
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    162 years ago

    Narcissism. Instantly 100% less of a valid person when you can’t see outside yourself.