One of these has definitely hauled more than the other, and i guarantee you it’s not the ford.
I can’t take cars like this seriously, I just assume whoever drives them is a total piece of shit
You never know. Maybe he needs if he works in the near by forrest. While I agree on the first part about not taking it seriously, I never want to assume people are pieces of shit without talking to them first.
If your juiced up Dodge RAM or this Ford monstrosity is all shiny, no speck of dirt in sight, then it’s not a work vehicle and the original assumption probably applies.
What if they washed it? Obviously most of the time you will be right, but from the perspective of a truck owner, that means they have to keep their truck dirty or people will assume they’re an asshole. You could avoid the problem altogether by not assuming that at all.
My assumptions shouldn’t matter to the owner. If you deep clean your work horse every night I’ll have my own opinions on that, but what does the owner mind what I think, it’s not like I’m gonna key their car.
Ah, I was operating on the assumption that you didnt want to be a dick for no reason. My bad.
Oh the thought police is here, best think my best thoughts.
Washing won’t hide signs of heavy work. Even fresh out from wash work van that has never been used in serious off-road conditions has signs of heavy use after a year of service. Shit happens when you use stuff for work, there will be scratches, small dents and other signs of use—especially on bumpers, truckbeds and rims.
None of the people I know that use their vehicles for work have their cars in pristine visual condition, unless they’ve just bought it new. Most work vehicles show their scars loud, even if taken good care of mechanically. And most company-owned vans and crew vehicles are rickety old things that are run to the ground, then retired to junkyards.
Not every truck has been in use for a year. I know most of the time you can tell the difference, but it seems like a bad idea to make assumptions based off of something like that. If you’re a truck owner are you just supposed to live with people thinking you’re an asshole if you recently got a new truck. I would rather take the extra few seconds to ask than put them in that position.
While not the best camera angle, those tires look spotless. 19% of GMC light truck/crossover owners actually use their cars in an offroad capacity, and the same effect probably applies to full pickups. I am doubtful that the above pickup is being used in anything off road.
Fiat Panda gang Fiat Panda gang
for a community called fuck cars the simping for a car is rather interesting
It’s a fiat Panda. It’s literally the best fuck cars car. It does exactly what a car needs to do and does it perfectly. If you really rely on a car the panda is just so good
official car of the anti car car club
Extremely common Pandino W
Not everyone that’s anti car has the luxury of living in a city that’s not built around the automobile
Or simply live outside cities, so public transportation is not an option
Not if they actually want to fuck the car.
Does whatever a Fiat Panda can!
You know what Ford stands for? Fix it again, Tony
You’re thinking of a Fiat, Dale
E: included the name so others might get your original joke.
Fiat might stand for that. Ford is fucked or repaired daily.
You’re thinking of a Fiat, Dale.
i guess you are thinking about my Fiat? while i can’t disagree i can say that it’s always dirt cheap to fix stuff and super easy because it’s designed to be repaired easily.
That’s Fiat, you mean Find On Roadside Dead.
Imagine getting this worked uo about one of the smallest trucks on the market. You can’t make this shit up!
I hope you find peace, friend
Well I never said I was worked up. I never stated I hated the man or speculating wether or not he has a small pp. That’s irrelevant to me. I just noted that the size difference is comically large, meaning I don’t understand how these cars have any practical means of existing in a dence city where a small family car would do the job driving to work just fine and grocery shopping is literally 100m away. I do agree that the comment section in general is getting pretty heated. That’s also Something funny to me because those geting so angry are no better people.
Alls I’m saying is your title felt super aggressive and it is funny to me because you picked a ford ranger, of all trucks, to lampoon when its easily the least egregious pickup that is available currently
Not OP but IIRC the F150 is quite larger and wider than the Ranger, or am I wrong…?
The last time I saw a Ranger it looked similarly sized to a Toyota Hilux
Yep. Ranger, Maverick, F series in order of size. I went looking for a little truck a few years ago and ended up with an Edge since finding trucks that small is actually rather difficult in America
I’m pretty tall. I move a lot of family members around on rare occasions. I go for week-long trips out of town in my car. I barely drive it in town (usually evenings and weekends and not even every evening or weekend). My car isn’t quite that behemoth but it is large enough for what I need. I have helped with over 4 home moves in that car and even used it to transport a fridge to a civic waste site.
It does the job fine. I’ve never felt the need to get a pickup truck. Some people probably have genuine use cases. The majority probably don’t. Those things are wild.
The mondeo is a great family car. I have a friend where his whole family, brother, mother, dag, uncle etc. each own a mondeo and sware by it because it just the right size for a family.
Yeah it’s one I’m struggling to replace, but because I use it so little I’m not as fussed just yet. Will keep it until it doesn’t pass MOT anymore, or something else makes more sense.
One of these has definitely hauled more than the other, and i guarantee you it’s not the ford.
I don’t know, the Ford looks like it has to carry around a really big ego.
And a small peepee, perfect balance.
Can we stop humiliating men for having small dicks? Penis size is something people don’t choose and can’t change, like their skin color or their sexual orientation.
Those trying to project a “tough guy” appearance are deeply insecure. They have this idea that if they show vulnerability then other people will think less of them and they will be victimized. People don’t learn this sort of coping behavior when they are raised in a loving nurturing environment.
They don’t have small dicks. They are scared.
Gotta stuff those fat americans in there somehow.
The sad thing is that they’re not even that roomy. Something like a skoda superb beats this ford truck hands down when it comes to leg room.
So:
- not that great off-road (too heavy, too wide, too long, not enough weight on rear wheels)
- not great at transporting stuff, because the load bed is open.
- not fuel efficient (and low range)
- less safe (higher chance of roll over, takes longer to stop, lower safety standards compared to regular cars)
- poor visibility (too high, don’t see pedestrians + low obstacles)
- not that roomy
- not that comfortable
- poor handling
A common argument is ‘it can tow stuff’, which is also silly because you can do that with a far smaller car too.
So it’s a fashion statement or virtue signaler. I mean, obviously we all hate it, but the people that buy these kind of trucks usually get off on that. They’re virtue signaling to their (internet) friends.
Pickups suck at literally everything they try to do. They are the worst of all worlds.
That’s a hot take. They excel at what they’re designed for: carrying stuff that goes outside the confines of a van, things that need to be loaded from the top, excessively dirty things that you wouldn’t want in a van or car, towing (especially 5th wheel towing), etc.
Tbf using a Skoda for comparison is cheating, they’re notorious for being very roomy. 😛
I have a Hyundai I40CW and I am 197cm tall, I can easily put the driver’s seat to my comfortable position and then sit behind the driver seat at the back.
The front passenger seat if I put it all the way back and put the seat down I can comfortably straighten my legs out and sleep.
They are still useful in some situations although they are almost always just a fashion statement. https://lemmy.ml/comment/1660615 Someone who actually needs one for their job commented on this post and explained why. Someone also replied and said they could haul more with a van, and their response was that they can easily drop things into the bed with a crane. Seems pretty reasonable to me.
edit: they deleted it, not sure why but the point stands
I‘m always surprised at how well those 2 wheel drive Fiat Panda‘s perform. We mostly use it for our farm because it can‘t really get stuck, or we haven‘t managed to get it stuck in 11 years. They also fit a decent amount of luggage!
I would love to see the smaller car that can tow a 35 foot 5th wheel trailer.
Or the van that can haul 12 foot logs stacked 6 feet deep.
Or carry two 1000liter water totes and allow them to be filled from the overhead hose that is provided by the municipality.
Or pull a trailer with a rented excavator.
The point here isn’t to argue. But I do get pretty tired of these threads just shitting on trucks for fun. They don’t make sense for non tradespeople living in a city. But I could not do with one vehicle if that vehicle wasn’t a pickup.
I’m building a homestead from scratch where I had to cut the trees of the forest down in order to make room to put my trailer to live in. Without the truck I could not haul the trailer all the way to the mill, all the milled wood back, and carry all of the things that I need to build the house. While still giving me 4 seats so that my nephews have a seat when I pick them up.
Edit to add: Mine is also dirty, dented, scratched, and abused. I don’t have time to make a work machine shiny, I have work to do.
You can tow an excavator, etc etc, with a Ford Transit. Hell, they can still drive ok if you stuff enough crushed cars in the back to get a curb weight of 3 tons.
Meanwhile a 1/2 ton pickup looks like it’s struggling with half a ton in the tiny tiny bed.
You are going to want to check your numbers on that transit van.
My 250 has three times the towing capacity of the transit, and the transit can’t pull a 5th wheel.
And an E45 bobcat (which is small relative to some machines I pull )is twice as heavy as the tow capacity of the transit, without considering tongue weight or the bulky trailer needed to haul such a thing.
I get it. Most people don’t need it. I do.
Ok, that’s fair … I guess because the F250 isn’t sold here people have a different attitude. For your needs here people would get something like an Iveco Daily 3.5 ton with dropside deck, they can take a good beating, about the same size as a heavy duty pickup but with more space on the back.
They also do options for a crane, tipper for agregates, and crew cab … seems like a pretty solid work platform compared to a pickup.
You have a point. It’s also clear that the Ford pickup in OP’s picture hasn’t done anything remotely close to any of the things you mentioned and likely won’t be, even once a year.
Frequent campers, contractors, farmers, builders/carpenters, junk and scrap haulers, landscapers all have a use for a pickup truck. Most others don’t.
Fair.
The amount of trail rash on my Jeep agrees with you. My rig gets used and abused on trails. More of a toy since I WFH and share my GFs much more reasonable vehicle.
Yeah but people are specifically criticizing the people who buy trucks to show off in the city, not people who actually use them for what they were made to do
I get that. I really do. But a lot of these threads devolve into “there is no reason to own one of these.” So I replied to someone saying similar stuff to remind this person that there are reasons.
Yeah that’s my bad, I didn’t realize that criticizing comment’s original point. I’d love to see someone run a small farm with a freaking sedan, what a moron.
I saw someone try to do it in a smart car once!
The comment they replied to is literally someone criticizing people for using them for what they were made to do… so no that isn’t what “people are specifically criticizing”.
Yeah that’s my bad, I didn’t realize that criticizing comment’s original point. I’d love to see someone run a small farm with a freaking sedan, what a moron.
4x4 with a tow hook. Attach an open trailer when necessary.
Here’s a 4x4 towing a boeing 747:
Those are things that the vast majority of truck owners never get near doing. There are a ton of truck owners that have never hooked up a trailer before in their life and only have used the bed for something like transporting an appliance once. It isn’t something they actively use as designed even once a month.
As someone else pointed out already, yes, there are people who need a truck. They don’t need an oversized death machine. There is little to no reason for a truck to have that much bulk, the bulk doesn’t add power.
However, most “need a truck” is either shit that could be done in much less vehicle, or done so infrequently that it makes 0 sense to OWN said truck. I sometimes need a truck… so far thrice in my life. I rented said truck. My wagon covers almost all of my hauling needs, rental covers the few outliers.
I don’t understand this need to tell people what they need or what they should drive. Can’t we just let people enjoy the things they like without getting all Judge Judy? I own a full ton diesel and I wouldn’t have bought it if I didn’t need it. How else am I going to tow my 32 foot RV? It’s how the wife and I vacation. Should I be flying to my vacation vs driving there because people hate trucks but someone give planes a pass??
I can see people being more upset at sportscars vs. trucks but that doesn’t happen. They are less fuel efficient than most trucks and can a lot less. An Infiniti Q37 with a V6 engine does 20MPG combined when my truck gets closer to 25MPG combined.
People need to stop judging others just because they do something you don’t.
Not when those shitstains on the road actually kill more people and pollute more of our shared planet. Same thing for sports cars. If you drive something so unnecessarily dangerous and bad for our shared space and you’re not using it for it’s purpose I will judge you with no sympathy.
If you drive something so unnecessarily dangerous and bad for our shared space and you’re not using it for it’s purpose I will judge you with no sympathy
What makes you an authority on what’s dangerous, bad or whether someone is using something for their intended purposes? Why are you so quick to judge others based on your lack of information?
Everything is dangerous if you go to extremes. Too much water can kill you. Too much food can kill you. Stressing yourself out over what others are doing will kill you or reduce the quality of your life at the very least.
It’s been proven that big trucks cause more accidents and pollute more heavily and cause city architecture problems because of parking and street size requirements. Seems like you’re lacking basic information.
Equating drinking too much water and dying to literally contributing to killing others or making their lives worse is the most stupid comparison I’ve ever heard. One hurts yourself, the other hurts other people.
Nah.
I bet my wagon could do half these people’s “tow stuff”
I have a Toyota Previa. It’s a wonderful little van, but it’s designed in such a way as to be able to effortlessly transport a stack of drywall in the back. I guarantee my van’s hauled more than that giant bloated mess of a ford…
Our pandemic project was doing our own hardwood floors. It was our second time installing hardwood floors, and it was much easier in our 20s than in our 30s, believe me.
I used my Chevy Bolt to take 1,000sqft of carpet and old oak to the dump. It took several trips, yes, but that was partially reflective of how quickly we were willing and able to work.
As a Subaru Baja owner, I’m inclined to agree. Though I did upgrade to overload springs in the rear, mostly to keep it from sagging as much when hauling heating pellets each winter.
Have you started noticing some cars are now the same height level of a semi truck? These people are so ridiculous.
It looks like a “human-feature compensation device”
And that’s the small Ranger! The F150 is large in comparison to the Ranger.
That’s a ranger? JFC.
The F150 is still pretty small. The Ranger is just a glorified medium car.
Especially when following the law that the larger the car, the less capable the driver.
I went to the philharmony last Sunday, and the number of people with large and expensive cars who were less than capable to park them properly in an underground car park was hilarious.
Parking a large truck is also just plain harder.
- Parking spaces are smaller relative to the size of your car
- Sitting high up with a huge hood in front means there’s less visibility in front
- Longer cars make it more difficult to judge distance using your mirrors, somewhat eased by the requirement for parking cameras.
- Longer cars generally have a longer wheelbase, making a worse turning radius
The only saving grace as a driver is that heavier cars can be safer for their occupants, at the cost of everyone else’s safety… which most would consider a negative.
Parking spaces are smaller relative to the size of your car
Nope, the caris too big to park in a normal parking lot.
Sitting high up with a huge hood in front means there’s less visibility in front
No, the car was built in a way it shouldn’t, because it does not allow the driver to drive responsible
Longer cars make it more difficult to judge distance using your mirrors, somewhat eased by the requirement for parking cameras.
No. One can learn to adapt to any size of cars and trucks, but most fat pickup drivers don’t care to invest the brain capacity to do so.
Longer cars generally have a longer wheelbase, making a worse turning radius
Well, if you cannot drive, you cannot drive. If the problem that you cannot drive is because of a design failure of the car, you chose the wrong car.
In the States, that Ford is considered a mid-size truck. The F-150 is considerably larger and they are everywhere.
