me being simple man, just searching ‘what i want’ + streaming keyword
As someone who just finished dusting my hat off after 12 years and setting up jellyfin how do I get the content I need for it?
I usually try qbittorrent + plug-ins (1337x and others) with that you can search for stuff directly from the torrent client which is great. If it’s not there I’ll usually look up on btdig or similar torrent indexers, after that, I’ll send the files to my server via FTP.
Take a look at the pinned megathread of this community
Try Usenet, you don’t need to worry about a VPN that way
You can only access it by paying, right?
Also, do you think there’s content with subtitles or in languages other than English? (Italian, for example)
Yes generally, but it can be very cheap. Some places sell block accounts which let you pay a one time fee for a set amount of data. Black Friday deals are coming up, and you an usually get amazing deals (1TB for under $5, able to be purchased multiple times, or subscriptions which work out to a couple dollars/euros a month).
The other thing you’d need is an indexer. Some are free, but for the best experience you’d want to pay for acess to a private indexer. Usually a few bucks as well, almost all of the big ones run sales this time of the year.
For subtitles: there are several solutions. Jellyfin (and Plex) support finding subtitles that you either download with a tool like Bazarr, or via Jellyfin/Plex’s own interface. Bazarr auto downloads them based on your parameters you give it though.
Okay, so maybe I could try it first with a block account and an indexer. I’ll keep an eye on black Friday deals. Thank you :)
There’s subs in a lot of languages. But it really depends on the community
https://www.opensubtitles.com/en
The price for an indexer + unlimited regular usenet from most providers is about 100 bucks a year. So cheaper than a single normal streaming service.
Jellyfin is awesome but…
There are still problems. The mobile app recently got loads better but still has some pretty major issues with subtitles, showing that subtitles either are barely tested, or the dev simply doesn’t have the resources required or finished the app in a better way. Right now you cannot watch two episodes of a show in a row over Chromecast with subtitles without the last subtitles of the previous show frozen in screen and the new subtitles being display above those. Gotta disconnect Chromecast, shutdown the app, restart everything. This is super annoying but still light-years better than the previous mobiel app that would basically require a reinstall after each episode.
There are many other issues too, scrubbing is much better again, but still problematic and tents to freeze, requiring restarting everything.
Jellyfin is awesome but I can’t really let my wife use it, as she doesn’t have the computer patience that I have.
Oh that is an extremely different experience that what I’m having! Chromecast works fine for me and i never have to restart anything and no problems with scrubbing either, just a bit slow on shows with a lot of episodes (300+). I have given my friends access to my server and most of them are using it just fine (sure with some issue now and then, as you said its not perfect). And in iOS with the alternative Swiftfin client the experience feels phenomenal!!
Do you use subtitles
Yes! Usually the ones that come with the media are fine for me but i also have the open subtitles plugin to download extra ones in my language. There are no problems 98% of the time and the other 2% its just that they won’t load and I just have to select/download different ones.
My biggest issue with Jellyfin is the downloads. I hate not being able to downscale or compress files. Its really the main reason I still leave Plex up in conjunction to it. Though I hope to be able to get rid of Plex entirely in the future, Jellyfin just needs more time.
Agreed and inknownit needs more time but it’s frustrating that I can’t yet sit down with family and watch something because it’s so unreliable
I’m sticking with Plex for now too. Although there are some grating, persistent issues in basic use, it usually just works.
Swear the UI gets laggier on the TV by the day, Jellyfin was jarring to me how snappy it was in comparison.I switched recently from Plex to jellyfin because Plex implemented stuff I do not need nor want, and it was full of bugs. Jellyfin works way better for me then Plex did.
I don’t have this issue with Jellyfin on my Chromecast at all.
Sometimes it’ll not “remember” which sub track I had selected when going to the next episode and I have to re-select it, or occasionally it won’t properly burn in the subtitles and I have to back out and restart the episode, but I never get them “stuck” like that.
I’d recommend trying to change the default player, the player is actually where I find most of the issues arise with subtitles. Jellyfin ships with LibVLC and ExoPlayer on Chromecast, but only uses one by default. I have it set to ask me which player to use for each show, since the subtitles for some of my shows work in one player but not the other.
Also are you using the Chromecast app for Jellyfin or are you casting to the Chromecast through the Jellyfin mobile app? (Not sure if the latter is possible, but I can see that causing weird behavior)
Interesting! Thanks, did not know that.
I’m casting using the mobile app, is there another way to cast, even?
There’s a dedicated app you can install on your Chromecast, then connect to your server the same way you connect on your phone. Works great for me as long as I select the right player
It needs a good Xbox app for me to switch. I could deal with dlna, but my wife and daughter need the easier interface plex has, and unless I can at least partially match that I can’t switch.
It works fine on Google tv via the new gen Chromecast if that’s an option for you?
It works fine on Google tv
It working ‘fine’ is the reason I’ve switched back to Plex for the time being. Too many QoL issues for me personally
My Jellyfin server keeps getting pinged by EMOTET malware lately. Everyone here should be aware if you expose the Jellyfin port to the internet it will get data exfiltration attempts. Use strong passwords.
Get a reverse proxy. Ping me if you need details. All my stuff is hidden behind port 443.
Oh my. You’re doing it wrong. Exposing the unencrypted connection without the proper security measures is putting yourself at risk. Regardless of how strong you set the password, the connection can still be abused in all manner of ways. If you read the jellyfin documentation, you’d see the developers clearly state you should never do this. You need to put Jellyfin behind server software. Specifically a reverse proxy. I use NGINX. You can setup your connection to be secure this way. You can now also use Cloudflare if you have cache turned off. And if you really wanna go the extra mile, route it behind a VPN. Though this makes it harder for those you share it with or some devices that don’t support VPN.
Please revise your connection. If you need help, feel free to reach out.
Mines behind an NGINX reverse proxy as well. EMOTET is a very advanced malware and can get around those now. My IDS detected data exfiltration to an unknown Brazilian IP, and I have a VPN with an IP tunnel on top of my reverse proxy, as well as everything on port 443. It still found a way.
If it found a way, then your server configuration is inadequate. Are you using old ciphers or protocols? Missing headers? Wrong headers? Something doesn’t add up here.
I have nginx setup and acessing through a Cloudflare tunnel but still getting EMOTET issues detected by my IDS.
May I ask what I should look for in the log files to detect this (and so I can configure fail2ban correctly)?
First read this
Then use the following:
alert tcp $HOME_NET any -> $EXTERNAL_NET 443 (msg:“[CIS] Emotet C2 Traffic Using Form Data to Send Passwords”; content:“POST”; http_method; content:“Content-Type|3a 20|multipart/form-data|3b 20|boundary=”; http_header; fast_pattern; content:“Content-Disposition|3a 20|form-data|3b 20|name=|22|”; http_client_body; content:!“------WebKitFormBoundary”; http_client_body; content:!“Cookie|3a|”; pcre:“/:?(chrome|firefox|safari|opera|ie|edge) passwords/i”; reference:url,cofense.com/flash-bulletin-emotet-epoch-1-changes-c2-communication/; sid:1; rev:2;)
And the following:
alert tcp any any -> any $HTTP_PORTS (msg:“EMOTET:HTTP URI GET contains ‘/wp-content/###/’”; sid:00000000; rev:1; flow:established,to_server; content:“/wp-content/”; http_uri; content:“/”; http_uri; distance:0; within:4; content:“GET”; nocase; http_method; urilen:<17; classtype:http-uri; content:“Connection|3a 20|Keep-Alive|0d 0a|”; http_header; metadata:service http;)
And also this one:
alert tcp any any -> any $HTTP_PORTS (msg:“EMOTET:HTTP URI GET contains ‘/wp-admin/###/’”; sid:00000000; rev:1; flow:established,to_server; content:“/wp-admin/”; http_uri; content:“/”; http_uri; distance:0; within:4; content:“GET”; nocase; http_method; urilen:<15; content:“Connection|3a 20|Keep-Alive|0d 0a|”; http_header; classtype:http-uri; metadata:service http;)
You always will. Welcome to the Internet. The difference is whether or not you’ve taken steps to secure your stuff. You need to understand what this malware is looking for. It’s explicitly looking for unsecured services. Such as WordPress, SQL, etc. There are inexperienced users out there that inadvertently expose themselves. I see this type of probing at work and at home. Don’t overly stress it. My home server has been running for a decade without issues. Just keep it updated and read before you make any changes if you don’t fully understand the implications.
My home based server is behind a pfsense firewall. Runs Arch. Everything is in a non-root docker container. SELinux is enforced. All domains are routed through Cloudflare. Some use Cloudflare Zero Trust.
Use it behind a VPN
Why not use a reverse proxy to keep everything on port 443 behind your own domain or duckdns? /gen
Can you link a good resource for me to set this up myself ? To many similar but different guides and my ADD makes it impossible to reach the goal.
Look up Caddy V2 probably the most dead simple reverse proxy I’ve seen and they have solid documentation
I do this already and also am inside an encrypted Cloudflare tunnel… Still getting EMOTET warnings from my IDS.
Don’t expose anything directly to the Internet except a VPN with strong auth.
Get a reverse proxy and strong passwords if you share with your loved ones.
There’s Wireshark for Android. Put your public key on the phone and you’re almost done.
edit: right, Wireguard
You’re thinking of WireGuard. WireGuard is a packet capture software.
You’re thinking of Wireshark. WireGuard is a VPN.
(Yes! Someone bit!) You’re thinking of TorGuard. Wireshark is when discovery channel spends a whole week talking about sharks.
Nothing like using someone’s own comment structure to correct their correction. All in good fun though.
I’ve got one, I prefer the VPN method.
Tailscale works nicely as well
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How can you see that?
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That link doesn’t work :/
I will simply copy/paste here then:
I have a refurbished server rack system that is running Zeek and also Suricata. I have a managed switch that will duplicate all network traffic to the system that is running those applications and a JBOD setup to store the countless logs. I have scoured through nearly all the CISA documents and alert reports to copy the various Snort rules they mention in each report and also purchased a specific modem to connect with my ISP that provides a service to monitor my traffic that has Minim.
I am a cybersecurity expert and still don’t know what I’m doing most of the time, so this is literally scratching the surface, as well as only detecting threats not really stopping them which requires more knowledge.
This is the biggest downfall of Emby/Jellyfin IMO. It’s a tradeoff from being reliant on Plex’s authentication servers, but requires a lot of technical knowledge to setup correctly (rather than just port forwarding and relying on a strong password).
Plex was how last pass got hacked. https://www.howtogeek.com/147554/lastpass-data-breach-shows-why-plex-updates-are-important/
You still need to do stuff even if it is plex.
The employee who got hacked was both using an insecure password (the exploit needs access to an admin account) and his Plex install was 2.5 years out of date.
Sure was! You need to be on top of paid and free and open source software from a security stand point. There’s no shortcut no matter what you think you’re paying for. Your threat model might be better when the service automates a Web proxy for you, but that’s only one facet. You trade problems but should never feel like you can “set and forget”. Sometimes it’s better for you to do it yourself because there’s no lying about responsibilities that way.
How are you detecting/monitoring it. I would like to do the same in my server
I have a refurbished server rack system that is running Zeek and also Suricata. I have a managed switch that will duplicate all network traffic to the system that is running those applications and a JBOD setup to store the countless logs. I have scoured through nearly all the CISA documents and alert reports to copy the various Snort rules they mention in each report and also purchased a specific modem to connect with my ISP that provides a service to monitor my traffic that has Minim.
I am a cybersecurity expert and still don’t know what I’m doing most of the time, so this is literally scratching the surface, as well as only detecting threats not really stopping them which requires more knowledge.
Just use Stremio
I prefer self-hosting my media. I’m mostly done with streaming services of any kind.
Streamio is basically a torrent client+video player. Way different from any streaming service
The only issue with stremio is that there isn’t enough non English language content available on public trackers
+1
But with torrentio
Too bad subtitles don’t work on Jellyfin
Edit: after going to Jellyfin technical support on discord I think I have it mostly working, I don’t know. Seems like I’ll be transcoding everything.Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
https://piped.video/watch?v=4VkY1vTpCJY&list=WL&index=80
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I’m open-source; check me out at GitHub.
Wtf is all this Disney plus shit? I kept seeing it searching for a VPN.
Is Disney actually making shows people watch?
To each their own I guess… At least everyones ripping it instead of paying for it.
How the fuck have you managed to both misunderstand and know so little about Disney+ with the multiple shows that have been major hits? I’m gonna take a guess and say you’re trolling. The multuple star wars and marvel shows that have been talked about absolutely everywhere, it would be incredibly hard to miss any of that.
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What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
For instance I hunt criminals… Way more useful to society than watching Disney plus
You’re so hardcore. I wish I was like you. /s
No, you don’t hunt criminals. You pretend to do it, on some random social media network called lemmy.
I myself also don’t like Marvel, most of Star Wars and the other stuff Disney is pumping out. But what I like even less are people on the internet pretending that they are worth more than others because they watched some crime footage on YouTube.
Why don’t you get back to topic, which incidentally is Jellyfin and not the content on Disney+? Do you really have nothing of worth to add?
Don’t feed the troll!
You sound like your fun at parties
Dude’s obviously mentally unstable and probably a pedophile. It takes a special type of person to shoehorn “child sex trafficking” and multiple references of “jerking off” into a discussion about media server software.
I knew this dumb fuck would say he didn’t have time to watch Disney plus, in a piracy community where people download things to spend their time.
Also he hunts criminals, that’s why he’s here partaking in this piracy community.
What a dumbass.
He hunts criminals in the same way Qanon hunts pedos.
The birth of a new copy pasta 👀
I guess it’s for kids and maybe die-hard marvel fans but yeah, most content is either shit, ancient or both lol
not gonna lie, i enjoyed Loki… not much tbh… but it was nice to watch while nothing else to do. And i could only enjoy it because i pirated it. Watching it, knowing i paid for it… would’ve made me angry
The first season was fine, this last season was a waste of time. Each episode amounts to nothing and there is sooo much repetition that I was thrown back to Heroes season 2 during the NBC writers strikes.
I don’t know if S2 of Loki was the way it is because it was trying to change Kang or because it was trying to be impressive. As of now, it seems like the latter.
All that said, S2 of Loki was “technically fine”, the acting was decent-good, the visuals weren’t terrible for 90-95% of it, good soundtrack. It was just the premise and how it was written that fell flat for my friend and I, and we’re both just kind of bewildered by the positive reception to it. Like, is the bar that low for people? Were we expecting too much? Is Disney just astroturfing? maybe a little of all 3. But holy heck, compared to other shows like Gen V and Invincible coming out each week we are so hype and sad about those episodes ending and we watch Loki and go… “that was it? ok…”
I did like the ending, though. Pretty much the only part of the show that wasn’t sci-fi technobabble and actually amounted to something and a smidge of character development. Even still, it was only okay I guess.
My roommate and I enjoyed Andor, Loki, and some of the other Star Wars stuff
But yeah their selection is pretty limited, which is why we cancelled our subscription awhile ago
Andor was excellent. I was burnt out on Star Wars but buddy insisted. It’s well worth the watch.
Everything else meh
Straight up IMO Andor is the best Star Wars show to come out on Disney plus
The other Star Wars shows that came out on steaming are pretty meh
Mando was pretty damn good season 1 but quickly turned meh
Star Wars Visions is worth the watch IMO as some cool Star Wars content but it’s pretty different than the other Star Wars shows which makes it better
Andor might be one of the best pieces of star wars media (movies/shows specifically) to ever come out tbh
Yeah true, Andor and Loki were great to be fair but that were really the only things worth watching for me in YEARS
I loved the second season of Loki 🤩
Not at all, I’m far from a die-hard marvel fan and I’ve really enjoyed several of the recent marvel shows. And the multiple star wars shows are the best star wars things since the original trilogy. Lots of stuff other than that too.
I have a hard time believing anyone has sene ir heard of any of that so little like you guys have, I’ve never had Disney+ (I only download) and use adblockers etc and don’t have any friends that are marvel/Disney fanatics and I still don’t have to do anything to be aware of most of the stuff they release.
I’m aware of it, I just think the content is terrible. Excluding Loki season 1 and Andor, I guess. But even with those two I’m just so fed up with their franchises, I don’t think I’m gonna watch more of it.
Disney plus has a decent bit of solid content. By saying this you don’t sound edgy and cool like you think you do, you sound dated. It’s okay to accept that Disney makes decent content, they have enough money to. It’s also okay to not like their content. But pretending you’re an ancient ass ostrich with your head in the sand is just cringe.
Here in Canada Disney+ also has a bunch of Hulu content, NatGeo and other stuff all rolled into one. It is a pretty amazing deal for only ca$12/month
Why do people think people/me are trying to sound edgy because they don’t understand Disney stuff, lol. Is that what this world has come to…? That’s what people stand for these days…? Disney?
Man the world’s fucked up these days if you think Disney is a part of everyone’s life… That’s really fucked up on a human scale.
Why not stand up for something real… Like people getting hurt…? So sick of seeing privileged people not realizing there’s literally an entire world outside of their pop lifestyle.
Nobody here gives a fuck about your whataboutism, go troll somewhere else.
If you don’t understand the cultural impact that Disney has then you probably have been living under a rock.
YouTube thumbnails are cancer
It’s one of the best ways to avoid stupid shit.
The only reason they’re that bad is cause it’s what people click on. I do agree they look terrible but it’s what draws people in.
Oxymoron maybe? Why would we click on things we don’t like? Try new not bad thumb and get clicks or do we all just hate ourselves and want to see the worst content ever made?
Unfortunately it’s fully supported by the statistics and multiple large channels have tried to get away from the shitty thumbnails, but those videos get significantly less clicks.
We can hate it, but it works.
They are cancer, cuz they grow on you, whether you like it or not
Bear with me but maybe its the fact that this dude looks like jaws from that bond film…
what kind of thumbnails are you seeing?
I see a good lookin guy pointing at a Black box.
I refuse to watch videos with a thumbnail showing an open mouth.
Or enlarged eyes
I’m sorry, but Pitch Meeting is brilliant.
Then they should get brilliant thumbnails
Or Linus Sebastian
I am proud of you
I have a similar policy. It sucks when it’s a video that I’m interested in (at least due to the title) but I refuse to follow along with this stupid trend.
Why the hell i hadn’t heard of it before? Will check it out later
Edit: The video above after the addon, i’m fully in!
Dearrow is a work of a genius. Speaking of Ajay, SponsorBlock is great too.
Wish there was a Jellyfin client that had a sort by random on tvOS, literally the only reason I use the Plex app.
I’ve never seen that requested before. I’ll add it to the Roku client idea list.
It’s missing from many players. Infuse is missing it too, which I have to use because Plex on tvOS is TERRIBLE. How does everyone look at movies then? Scroll through them alphabetically? I miss the play random button too, they took that away a year or two ago.
The upcoming Jellyfin Roku release has a quick method to play a random item from each of your libraries, but we don’t have random sorting so you can see the list.
My current workaround for that is adding whatever I want to shuffle into a playlist. I have one with some sci-fi shows in it that I regularly use. Smart collections is my most missed feature from Plex.
Have never been able to get into playlists. I don’t have time to sit down and scroll through my thousands of movies to pick individual ones out for a certain mood. I did that with music back in the 00s, but I had a considerably larger amount of free time on my hands back then. Should probably look into them a bit more.
Jellyfin is almost perfect for me, I just need to find out why it decides to randomly transcode when it needs to do nothing when serving client.
There are tons of reasons why Jellyfin may decide to transcode. In my experience browsers and players usually have the right video decoder support, but high efficiency audio codecs seem to trigger transcoding. It’s also possibly the specific video profile (colour depth, HDR, whatever) isn’t supported by the client even if the more common profiles are.
In some circumstances, enabling embedded subtitles can force a transcode. Using Bazarr to download separate subtitles helps prevent weird transcodes for some of the videos I’ve gathered on my server.
Yeah, why is it doing that?
Especially when I’m using the Jellyfin Android TV client. The quality goes from ok to complete shit.
Does it not like mkv files?
Disable video transcoding for the account your client connects with. Then check the log to see why it needs to transcod it the video fails. Could be the bitrate limit. I’m not having issues and using the same client.
Checked on the dashboard as per the other comment.
It’s subtitles. I’m probably going to try Kodi as a client, see how that goes. Shame, because I quite like the Jellyfin client UI, it just doesn’t work with some files.
I think the subedit program can convert subtitles… I forget :(
It’s strange because Jellyfin claims to be able to extract and convert subtitles on the fly, and even has an option to disable that, but for some reason it’s choosing not to do it. There doesn’t seem to be a definitive list of what does and doesn’t work. You just play things and hope it doesn’t trigger the transcoding dance.
Kodi’s player does work (to an extremely impressive level, including DVD rips I made years ago), but I’m really not keen on the UI, dating as it does from before Android TV was a thing. All the buttons seem configured just differently enough from everybody else that simple things like checking how long a video has left, to backing out so you can finish watching tomorrow are borderline infuriating. I did get a keybinding editor for it, to make it so pressing back stops the video, but knowing all the functions is something that takes more knowledge of it than I have. I’ll probably get it configured eventually, but it’s annoying to start with.
The Jellyfin UI on the other hand is great. I love the detail on each film, all the cast and blurb and all that. It’s just the player is Exoplayer, and every limitation in that is now Jellyfin’s limit too. There does seem to be an option to swap it, but what with? I’m not sure what Kodi uses internally. Maybe it’s their own thing.
If only the container was an issue, you would have a direct stream which doesn’t impact quality, it just repacks it in a container that is compatible with the client.
You can see the transcode reason on the dashboard by clicking on the i symbol. Start playback on android TV, open jellyfin on your phone and you should see the transcode reason.
Subtitle codec is not supported.
I think they’re in ASS format, according to the subtitle selection menu, embedded in the mkv file.
Is there no way to convert that to something that is supported?
It doesn’t help that this is Across the Spider Verse, so it’s not exactly what most video codecs are expecting. The playback quality with no subs is light-years ahead of the transcoded version.
I think YOU are in ASS format!
This comment isn’t helpful to anyone in anyway, but it IS funny
That’s what I was going for!
ASS format is the worst of all subtitle formats. It’s not even a real format, the spec is a badly written word document that’s missing half the features. It’s only popular with shitty fansub groups that discovered you could use it to basically render whatever you’d like on top of videos.
Yes! That’s my main issue with Jellyfin. So annoying.
Any recommendation on a NAS to take advantage of this software? The current one i have is a nightmare to get running it and will just look into another
Edit: it’s a QNap TS-230. I’ve tinkered with the container station and i can get to the drive set up but it never sees within the library and just idles even after multiple retries
Just build a computer with hdd’s and install unraid.
Stuff some disks in a low-end box and install FreeNAS.
TrueNAS.
They retired the FreeNAS name. Now the free version carries the same name as the pay version, but with different subtext.
Yah, I remember that now.
I use open media vault with jellyfin in a docker.
I’ll take a peek to see if i can get this up! Thank you
Seconded. Love OMV
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I’m not sure which one you have but I’m using Synology and it’s awesome.
Same. However, I make sure transcoding is not needed for video on my clients.
I moved from Plex to Jellyfin because of this video.
keep both, sometimes jwllyfin doesn’t like streaming one kind of hdr or another and Plex will stream that. rarely can be the other way around. I have both using the same library, if one fails I try the other one.
For some reason, my Plex can’t tell the difference between the episodes and seasons. Also 4k video it messes with the colors. So far Jellyfin has been pretty good.
I am currently running Jellyfin with a single 10TB disk. I would love to move to a dedicated NAS, but that is so expensive.
[$250 isn’t that expensive for what you get IMO](http://www.Synology.com/ 2-Bay NAS DS223 (Diskless) https://a.co/d/6IV6C8d)
I want to go for a 4 bay one, so that I’ll survive a disk failure. And then you’re looking at about 2000 Euro for the NAS and four drives.
Just buy a used PC and the drives. You don’t have to buy them all at once since you can add drives to your RAID.
I’ve got old PCs, but would rather have something that uses very little power rather than some ancient Athlon X2 running full tilt.
Those mini PCs are neat, but lack space for drives.
As far as I can tell a Dell small form factor and Synology idle around 15-25w and 15w respectively. Both seem to pop up to 30-45w under average load depending on what you’re doing with them. But it depends on the kind of processor you pick and additional drives will also pull more wattage.
The SFF units are limited on space. The one I have is limited to one HDD although you could put a few SATA SSDs in there and 1 nvme. The SSDs would be more expensive but lower energy use. I’ve been toying with attaching a external HDD mount to the case to see if I could add in some extra drives.
I’m not familiar with the EU/UK market, but in the US I got my used Dell for $87 from eBay. It came with 8Gb RAM and a 250Gb SSD. And it had cosmetic damage so the seller sent me a second for free :P
I think depending on how much storage you need it could be a viable alternative.
Currently I’m still using my Odroid HC4 which is probably super power efficient but limited to 2 drives and it isn’t very powerful.
The Synology units are much more user friendly out of the box though. Also I guess it depends on if you just want a NAS or if you eventually want to get into self hosting.
I have the ds 220 in raid 1 configuration. Going well so far.
RAID1 is nice, but you lose 50% of your total capacity to the mirroring. I want to go with 4 drives and RAID5. I only give up 1 drive of capacity and can still lose one without losing data. If I invest money into this I don’t want to compromise too much, as it needs to last for years.
You didn’t properly format your markdown
I noticed, but it kinda works. One takes you to learn more about the brand and the other to the store site.
I built by own NAS for $100 and with old HDDs I had lying around. Buy used, old parts on eBay (like 10 years old) install Unraid trial. Bob’s your uncle. Then you can upgrade as you go as needed.
I agree. There are a bunch of DIY server options with linux. You should go that route to save money.
I don’t see anything that would be cheaper than a DS923 from Synology, which costs 570 plus the drives. The cheapest I see still costs me 1200 Euro for everything.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JhPvZJ
I didn’t even bother getting the best price. I just selected things that would work well.
Get an LSI HBA in IT Mode for another $60 to add another 8 drives.
The case was chosen because it can support 11 drives. It comes with six bays by default but you can buy packs of two bays for $15.
As is, this will cost ~$560 plus the drives and allow you to use eleven 3.5", but cheaper and better options for the PSU, mobo, SSD and memory are out there. I just selected things that would be useful for what you need and provide better hardware than a Synology.
If you don’t need as much storage, you can shave off $160 with a cheaper case and skip the HBA.
Nah, you need to build a PC or pickup a older server. I went with Synology and it ended up close to $1k with drives 😭
I built a Ryzen 5800X machine using a cheap AsRock motherboard and three 8tb WD Red drives for about $600 USD. I did reuse the case, power supply, and NVME cache drive from an old build. I’m running Unraid and it has been great!
I went with Toshiba drives, but debating that decision. 😄
You could always hop over to https://frame.work and pick up a refurbished Intel mainboard plus an enclosure (or 3D print your own using their plans). You’d just need to get some RAM and a small SSD to run an OS like TrueNAS and you’d be good to go for probably under USD $600.
It’s not cheap but building a nas from scratch is loads cheaper. Looking up NAS killer 6 on serverbuilds.net have some great guides and support
That looks nice, but I am not getting anything close to the listed prices. I don’t see the board for under 400 Euro, the PSU is off by a factor of 10 and so on. Overall I don’t think I can build the PC for less than the 573 Euro a Synology DS923+ would cost me. The only upside of the custom build would be that I can attach more than 4 disks.
You can build a dedicated NAS fairly inexpensively. If you have an old computer you don’t use anymore that’s a great starting point. I was able to find a micro optiplex at my local used computer store for $99 and it runs great. I originally had it running on a raspberry pi 3 but was having power management issues and needed something a little more powerful.
I would recommend using Samba for your NAS. It’s a free SMB server that lets you access your data on all operating systems. Other Linux computers can mount samba by adding a line to /etc/fstab. On Windows you just go to file explorer and click map network drive.
