Scalping works great for those lower ticket items with tiny profit margins and high demand. Idk if it’s something cybertruck needs to worry about being none of those things.

lobut’s explainer video explains the contract law provision, but to be honest, it’s a deeply cynical use of contract law. The reason is that typically (and for nearly every piece of retail-sold property), you have property rights exactly like what everyone in this thread is intuiting. Those property rights absolutely would give you the right to resell.

Contract law trumps those rights, and Cena signed a contract. That is where the discussion keeps ending. But a court, if it’s circumspect enough, may continue the case long enough to examine how property and contract rights are in conflict. And it’s entirely possible property rights may win in the end.

Why? Because the contract may be invalid if it is “illusory.” An illusory contract is as it sounds based on a false presumption of exchanged value (“consideration”) or a false promise of performance from Tesla. Here, Tesla may be technically complying with contract consideration requirements by lumping the actual Cybertruck into the value exchange, which sounds right from a contract law perspective. However, if Tesla is not offering substantial value beyond what a typical retail sale would be, and if they are only offering the same ongoing services as typical retail customers, there is a small chance a court may decide that the contract is a pretext to in fact simply (and illegally) limiting property rights.

That said, I’d give it maybe a 5% chance of success. Contract law is one thing most judges will almost never interfere with. Which is why Tesla and others are doing it. They typically only do it with cars like high-end sports cars.

But importantly, it could become commonplace for anything you buy even at retail when combined with “clickwrap” agreements - i.e., agreements like in software that activate when you use or open the product. So it’s very very important that we continue to push back on this.

I saw an episode of LegalEagle (I think it was about NFTs) and it’s a terms of sale thing and he spoke about John Cena doing something similar with Ford:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2017/12/02/ford-sues-actor-wwe-superstar-john-cena-over-his-car/915846001/#:~:text=Ford Motor is trying to,violation of his purchase agreement.

I found the LegalEagle episode:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=C6aeL83z_9Y&si=vONBqJ14_KZ65lF8

It’s around 6:49

That’s how Musk names everything. He loves the letter X, he named the Tesla models “S”, “3”, “X”, and “Y”, the Cybertruck, his five most recent children including “Techno Mechanicus”… He’s absolutely unfit to be in charge of anything.

It also looks like someone drew the initial plans for it in crayon on a napkin, so that checks out.

Musk being childish and you’ve only realised now? What hole have you been in (and is there space for one more?)?

The glass punch during presentation was the sign of things to come.

Cybertwuck

I can’t see it without seeing Homer Simpson in that car he designed.

From what I read, Musk’s insistence on the stainless steel design as well as his overriding his design engineers on multiple aspects of the program are forcing the first set of trucks to ship to have a significant amount of hand assembly, pushing the unit cost towards $200k.

I’m going off of memory here, but the low end version of the truck was supposed to be in the $40-50k range. While they can bump those prices (I assume - I’m guessing the reservations people got let Tesla change the price), they’re going to see a lot of people dropping it.

I can’t look at it without remembering the Simpson’s episode where Homer says “In the 80s, this is what the future looked like!”

they’re more like BMWs.

Complete with asshole drivers.

Yeah, there’s also the fact that rich wankers buy a limited edition car on pre-order, then sell that pre-order for more than they paid for it because it turns out even richer wankers also don’t tend to plan ahead and will pay extra to jump the queue and have this year’s fancy new model at the last minute.

I know somebody that did this a few times, and then got stuck with a £100k sports car when a recession hit.

Hah.

What do you mean “Turned into” ?