So did you get good grades? You didn’t mention that
Tell me your mom is totally insulated from reality and a huge cunt without saying it explicitly.
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Me too, I like to say I fix everything from software to cars. A problem solver is a problem solver, no reason you can’t do just about everything with logic and the internet.
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I guess so, depending on what you’re making. Though fixing things seems comparable all around.
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My boss once told me he would never ask me to do something that he wouldn’t do himself. This ‘mom’ is espousing the opposite idea, that certain jobs are beneath her. I’m pretty sure these people have no clue how to do anything other than be some low level manager or bureaucrat and will vanish from existence like the morning mist, come the apocalypse.
Idk, tradesmen in the UK earn shitloads of money. Pretty good job if you like the lifestyle of it.
The union employee who probably makes more than you and dad combined? Sure, I don’t want to end up like him or the garbage man that I know for a fact makes more than both of you combined. Great job employment shaming mom.
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They do a pretty important job, I just wish every single one of them didn’t seem to be a die-hard Trumper for some fucking reason.
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Seriously. I work with tradespeople everyday. Society would collapse in a week without them. But also most of them believe in jewish space lasers and want trump to become god king and kick out all the gays and non-whites
Then they complain NO ONE WANTS TO WORK ANYMORE when they cant find anyone who wants to work with them
phone marketing would be more apt job to scare kids with. It brings nothing of value to society and its awful for the worker and those being bothered. Or just skip pointing fingers at any job and just tell the kid they will end up being exploited if they are left with no options.
Like the guy with steady pay, job security, benefits, and a strong union?
Shit I better stop studying
The irony is now that the situation is totally inverted.
My STEM degree has got me making a barely livable wage while the GEDs who went straight into a trade are making twice what I make.
And the cruel reality is there is not a good way to determine which way this market will go unless you’re one of the 0.01%. And if you were it would make this a mute point.
The meme should go “he’s probably in a union and has job security, health serurity and a living wage”. Fuck that guy. That’s what he gets for being an honest taxpayer.
What STEM path is barely getting by? Programmers and engineers are highly sought after employees rn.
I would not say “right now”. This is the worst that the industry has ever been since maybe the dot com bubble.
There are lay offs everyday, and wages are being openly suppressed. Someone with x yoe should expect 10% lower than 2 years ago.
Well I my skill set is in programming, however to date since my graduation, I’ve only managed to get into an adjacent job which was IT.
I’m gonna try and bring my skillset up ther by focusing on network administration, since for me it would appear that my programming skill isn’t really worth that much.
IMO the hard truth is that the niche skills sell, not degrees.
Was told this nonstop through college, took me a year to find a job paying me way less than most people’s engineering starting wage
Are you in a city with limited STEM opportunities? That has a lot to do with it. I was having an impossible time getting a programming job in my hometown, because they are a behind the times, po-dunk city. I had to move across the country to an area with a thriving tech industry to finally get my career going. It’s unfortunate, but where you live heavily impacts the job opportunities.
Nah I’m literally in Denver lmao, things are looking better now but every single entry level position must be flooded with applicants or something. So much ghosting
Nah I’m literally in Denver lmao, things are looking better now but every single entry level position must be flooded with applicants or something. So much ghosting
I’m a Medical Laboratory Scientist (bachelor’s degree, nationally certified, and current on my certificate maintenance continuing education requirements) and it has taken 16 years for me to crack 100k/year. I started at 38k. There are not enough MLS out there to staff all the labs in the US. Labs are scrambling to figure out how to continue providing patient care in the face of crippling staffing shortages and yet pay is still shit.
That’s insane. They charge a fucking fortune for lab tests. Who is keeping all the money?
I think we can all guess
The mice!!!
Haha!
Who is keeping all the money?
Can’t be 100% sure so just to be safe let’s beat the entire insurance industry and see what comes out of their pockets.
Absolutely insane. I’ve been workingfor my current company doing customer service for just over 5 years and I am making just shy of $50k/year. 16 years to claw your way to 100k after all the school you surely went through… Boggles my fucking mind. We all deserve better but this is just wrong.
I think you mean a moo point
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A μ point.
Construction workers can make bank, mom!
Just have to wreck your back by the age of 35.
Not with strong worker safety laws you don’t
Former safety manager here. Workers are dumb with their toxic masculinity, and safety isn’t baked into the standard of work. Literally, it’s not part of the engineered labor standard.
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Because you’re the minority. I teach these young men that their body is their most important tool and yet they take shortcuts or say, “PPE is for pussies.”
Well you just proved my point then. If these “guys” you’re talking about didn’t take shortcuts with their health and actually wore PPE etc they would be in great shape. It’s not the job it’s them.
I have a near zero probability of getting a hernia or falling from a lethal height. Plus, I have several family members who were tradesmen with destroyed backs and addicted to pain killers by their 40s. One uncle that was in a coma for 9 months from falling from a ladder and another on disability from wear and tare being a roofer.
working out regularly, eating well, and sleeping well. That’s what keep you fit and in shape. That’s it. working a manual labor job gets you the excersize part, you gotta do it properly but that task is fullfilled by having a manual labor job. You still need to eat and sleep well and not get addicted to painkillers (that can happen to anyone). An office job fulfills non of the tasks required to be fit. Sure less chance of injury since you’re in an temp controlled cubicle. Much higher chance of being unfit though.
Yeah mom. Wtf you on. Also…what YOU doin with your college degree mom?
Figuratively and literally!
That construction worker has made more money at his entry level job than you have in the last twenty years mom!
~$24/hr x 2080 = $49,920 x 20 = $998,400. + 36/hr x 520 OT = 18,720 x 20 = 374,400. = $1,372,800 + benefits in 20 years.
Mom = -$200,000 first 4 years in reality -300,000 with interest for college. $9/hr full time job for 2 years outside of your industry. $17/hr first 3 years in your industry. $20/hr next 5 years. $25/hr next 5 years. $23/hr due to salary cuts last 1 year.
-300,000 + 37,440 + 106,080 + 208,000 + 260,000 + 47,840 = $359,360 for mom in 20 years with the good benefits only coming after she gets salaried.
Congrats, this is what the gender pay gap has been about since it was created. Men destroy themselves and off themselves in droves for it.
They get to create useful things unlike a lot of white collar jobs
Hey, c’mon those programmers making minecraft mods during their work hours are contributing to society
Maybe some people decided to play Gregtech and got inspired to get a chemistry degree, who knows
That’s not fair. Do you have any idea how hard I work to put adverts into your products without making them crash? God, think next time!
Are people actually still talking trash about tradesmen? Come on, what year is it supposed to be?
Year is irrelevant, as long as class exists (working, owning, and
middledeluded worker, aka “temporarily embarrassed millionaires”), so will classism.I didn’t know people were talking trash about them. When I was a kid my parents warned me to do skooll gud so that I could get a cushy office job instead of a low paying back breaking job, not that those professions are shameful or anything like that.
But I think there’s still that implication that those jobs are for less intelligent people and that they’re less desirable.
Yea well… Tell that to the Indians. Tradesmen are looked down upon quite a lot here (cuz they also tend to be poor and of the lower castes).
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I have hella respect for any tradie and the hard work they do. I actively encourage my kids to think of trade school as a viable career path. I work in IT and I hate it most days. I wish some days I had gone into HVAC, electrical, or plumbing, but at this point I’m kind of stuck since I have three kids I need to support.
Im curious why you dont think IT is like a trade? I write code all day and petty much feel like a glorified construction worker for computer programs. IT has been blue collar for a while now. Heck my local trade school for teenagers 15 years ago had various IT role classes.
TBF “IT” covers everything from Helpdesk to devs so I really think it just comes down to what you’re doing within the field. I wouldn’t mind coding all day, but doing helpdesk for any prolonged period of time is usually not fun
They’re teaching IT stuff in trade schools now? That’s great if so. When I went to school only colleges/universities had IT coursework. God I’m old…amazing how much changes in 16 years.
I went to a trade school for high school about 25 years ago. They had an IT path that taught everything from the Office suite to code, and a separate course for hardware.
I fixed microwaves but it was there!
Where in the world are you? Where I was living in the Midwest of the United States they did not have IT trade programs.
Connecticut at the time.
I learned python in a trade school during highschool It was fucking awesome
The actual course was kind of shit but we had a really cool instructor that let us dick around making our own projects
The java part was so bad I litterly gave up and learned Godot instead and he was 100% chill with that