Hundreds of unsheltered people living in tent encampments in the blocks surrounding the Moscone Convention Center in San Francisco have been forced to leave by city outreach workers and police as part of an attempted “clean up the house” ahead of this week’s Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation’s annual free trade conference.
The action, which housing advocates allege violated a court injunction, was celebrated by right-wing figures and the tech crowd, who have long been convinced that the city is in terminal decline because of an increase in encampments in the downtown area.
The X account End Wokness wrote that the displacement was proof the “government can easily fix our cities overnight. It just doesn’t want to” (the post received 77,000 likes). “Queer Eye but it’s just Xi visiting troubled US cities then they get a makeover,” joked Packy McCormick, the founder of Not Boring Capital and advisor to Andreessen Horowitz’s crypto VC team. The New York Post celebrated the action, saying that residents had “miraculously disappeared.”
But it was the Democrats who orchestrated and approved it.
That’s what makes it illegal, Republican crimes aren’t real crimes, remember?
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That’s what it’s going to have to take. People need to become so angry that they do something to take it back, and they aren’t going to do that until they have nothing left to lose
Hmm Republicans being inhuman and Techbros saying hold my beer. Cool
If you read really, really critically, you’ll notice the entire article is about who cheered the move, not who actually did it.
Who did this sweep? Who is actually responsible for it?
Getting ready for APEC.
This has a bit more information it would seem. Can’t say it is more difinitive or speak for the source as I am not familiar with them. (SanFranciscoStandard)https://sfstandard.com/2023/11/14/city-clears-homeless-encampments-apec/
That’s a good read. It does go into a little more detail about who was discussing it. This SF Standard article doesn’t mention anything about illegal activity on the police’s part, aside from a brief mention of a lawsuit.
It still doesn’t answer the question of exactly who ordered the clearing.
Also, one article mentions this guy saying he was set back by being moved. That’s a really important point. Homelessness isn’t a flat plane but rather it is its own hill to climb, and at a certain point in that climbing one can get back to being housed. Disrupting people’s ongoing life send them sliding back down the hill.
I read the article, there doesn’t seem to be any mention of where they went. The people vice interviewed seem to be playing coy and giving a bunch of carefully sanitized non-answers about what happened.
San Francisco just made 500 homeless people vanish?No, excuse me, big ol’ homeless camps just happened to up and vanish with no police intervention just in time for APEC? Yeah, fucking right. Dollars to dimes that they bussed them to the central valley. I know you can do better than this, California, get your shit together.I’m as liberal as the next guy, and i know this will definitely not be a popular opinion here, but honestly we need to stop giving homeless people a free pass and I’m fucking serious. A lot of these people do it only because they can get away with it. They need to know that what they are doing isn’t OK. It’s not the answer, there really isn’t a single answer, but we also can’t just keep enabling them. I say this as a person with a homeless meth addict sister, a brother in law who’s been on drugs his whole life and is currently in section 8, and a sister in law who got her shit together after being a homeless addict. I also have family who have volunteered full time at shelters and food banks
Most of these homeless there are either addicts or severely mentally ill and need help. Of course I’m just referring to the addicts here, the mentally ill need help. Homeless families down on their luck aren’t included here, they typically know where support is and are using it.
Historically, study after study has shown that most people are not homeless due to addiction. So either there’s been a drastic shift in the data since COVID-19, or you’re repeating a false narrative that liberals and progressives have been widely aware of and discussed for ages.
The homeless where they are booting people in downtown SF are 100%. I live 10 miles from there and see it. I agree with your claim, but location has a lot to do with the type of homeless. Oakland for example has a lot of people you’re talking about. Also read my second paragraph
Why do the right cheer as if it’s a permanent solution? They’ll be back as soon as the important people are gone. To say the problem is “fixed overnight” is like saying “Look Mom, I cleaned my room!” after you just finished sweeping everything underneath the bed and hiding it with the covers.
I do hope they fix the problem, but I don’t know what else they can try other than just building houses and giving them the keys. That would probably be less expensive in the long run, but taxpayers evidently feel better paying for homelessness programs in perpetuity rather than giving people free shit one time.
Conservatives don’t know how to fix or build anything anymore. They have no solution to homelessness and they don’t care . Sending police to crack some skulls and patting themselves on the back for it is the best they’ve got.
Right wing people are typically either stupid or dishonest.
Conservatives don’t have solutions, just stop gaps. They just stall and pass the ball, and lower taxes, its their only trick.
Conservatives didn’t do this. The article mentions cheering but not who actually did this. All it says is the operation was a “black box”.
This isn’t journalism. They made zero effort to get to the facts. Facts such as:
- Who ordered this sweep to occur?
- Who will be held responsible for the illegal actions performed?
Why is this story entirely focused on the New York Post being in favor of it? There is zero effort to hold the people responsible for this to account.
Moderate democrats, liberals, are still conservatives, notice I didnt say Republicans
republicans love the idea of a brutal authoritarian police state society
Also known as small government
I also noticed that after a recent sweep/camp cleanup of homeless encampments in Seattle, the local Sinclair station (KOMO) was quick to run footage of people (presumably to be representative of Seattle folk generally) basically gloating that AT LAST they did something
Yes, the right are going to do everything they can to give others the impression that everyone else also regards poor people to be vermin, to be purged… preferably violently. The purpose of this sort of language is always to condition its audience to accept, if not cheer for, violence.
The city does seem to be in terminal decline, and the homeless encampments sure aren’t helping.
But just pushing them around isn’t helping.
Lowest form of humanity, has to be near when you criminalize homelessness.
No I heard yous solved the problem by calling them uNhOuSEd
That kind of language shift is stupid. Changing words because you don’t like the connotation is just denying reality. The connotation comes from what the word means. It’s not the word itself. Homeless has horrible connotation because of what it is describing. If you change the word, eventually it will gain the same baggage.
Homeless is the perfect example of this because that was the new soft word. It replaced vagrant or bum.
Been wondering, who benefits from all the inflationary costs to living. Is it mainly wall Street, or banks? I’m a home owner, and while my home is worth more, it’s not like I have more money, cause everywhere is expensive.
Aren’t property taxes tied to the value of the house? Expensive houses bring more tax dollars to the government.
Nah, it’s based on the appraised value, which for taxes is always only a fraction of the market value and doesn’t change unless the city does a new appraisal. For instance my house is worth over $200k and the appraised value is something like $70k I’m not an outlier, everyone’s house is appraised like this.
Getting ready for the Bell Riots
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I’m soooo sorry you had to look at that for a while. Hope you didn’t have to feel compassion when you saw those vile people trying to survive. Why can’t they just make more money like you?
Well at least they cleaned up the area, though it’ll just be overrun next week when the international dignitaries leave and it all goes back to normal
While I agree we should be solving the root problem of homelessness equitably, the headline is misleading as I know many people on the left were also happy to have clean streets for a while.
I personally think a not insignificant amount of encampment dwellers are just people taking advantage of the situation to steal and get high/drunk all day rather than stay clean and work some crappy job to get by, but even I think these sweeps are stupid and a waste of resources as they just shuffle people to other areas rather than accomplish a single thing.
Live in Bay Area, vote progressive/left, so ready for encampment to be less of a thing - in favor of some better solution like what they have near Oracle Stadium.
To solve homelessness would mean to completely upend the entire world’s economy and change to a global socialist structure. Homelessness is baked into our economic system. Capitalism is a zero sum game and if we’re going to celebrate having billionaires, we have to celebrate having people live and die on the street.
Capitalism is wired in such a way that productivity literally produces poverty.
And there is no mention in the article about who ordered and carried out the sweep.
Who cheers about something is secondary to who actually does it. This article doesn’t address who actually did it.
