Edit: good to see I woke the shills
Look on the positive side, if he comes back for a second term there’ll probably be death camps so you’ll be killed and won’t have to remember when he becomes president for life.
Put me in a Trump run death camp. Me and all my new pals will be living better than most Americans in the new order within a week. For sure would rather be there than a part of Gilead.
On one hand, I wonder what would make someone so disillusioned to believe Trump would be good for America. On the other hand, I read comments like yours and realize a lot of people are this dumb.
Oh? What did I say that is so dumb?
If you have to ask…
If you can’t say…
What would make someone so disillusioned to believe Trump would be good for America
The same exact things that made them disillusioned 6 years ago? Their life is getting worse at an accelerated pace and have been for many decades now. The “System” does not work for them and they are tired of pretending it does.
Despite ‘Bidenomics’ - we, the working class, are poorer now than we have ever been. Trump is still a hand grenade to throw at the establishment.
They don’t believe the Democrats have their best interests, and a substantial number don’t believe Republicans have their best interests at heart - which is why it’s Trump or Bust. Trump represents to them what Bernie represented to Democrats - actual change.
But it doesn’t really matter what I, or anyone else, says. You’ve already decided what you think about all of these people.
Trump is still a hand grenade to throw at the establishment.
They don’t believe the Democrats have their best interests, and a substantial number don’t believe Republicans have their best interests at heart - which is why it’s Trump or Bust.
This is fallacy. It may work to attract a certain type a voter but in practice Trump bends over backwards to appease the GOP. He lines his cabinet and campaign with GOP old guard and is set out to accomplish GOP policy goals. Not once in my interactions with any Trump supporters have they hinted at doing anything that wouldn’t be aligned with typical conservative ideology. Trump is the GOPs creation. Nothing more. Nothing less.
Under his orange eye, brother.
Fascism is great for the supporters, at first. They get to steal tooth gold.
Trump was and is a total shitshow. Anybody says otherwise is okay with his crapulence. It’s just a matter of who they hate.
I cant believe how dysfunctional the us has become.
You actually voted for the biggest asshole and a retard to become president. He was wildly incompetent to the surprise of nobody. The country became a laughing stock. Secrets were leaked, justice compromised (even further), he attempted a literal coup. No, lets vote for him again.
We knew americans were dumb, but holy fuck. You need someone to protect you from yourselves because clearly your government is as caring as it is in russia. The entire population should be institutionalized.
If you think voting for literal idiots is an American thing you really haven’t been paying attention.
Boris Johnson, Victor Orban, …
Trump really beats all those examples.
Milorad Dodik (more like No-dick), even
I’m surprised Americans don’t wear padded helmets all the time, seeing as how much they ram their heads into walls.
Aww, bless your heart.
Once again pointing out that Trump never won the popular vote. Yes, we need to abolish the Electoral College. It favors the right wing unjustly and undermines the will of the people when it does not align with the popular vote.
Lots of people voted for him, yes. I’ll make the argument that things will actually get better as the folks whose cognitive abilities are negatively impacted by a century of burning leaded gasoline start to die off.
I believe it’s something like >95% of people born between 1945 and 1965 that have enough lead in their bodies to be cause for concern.Can’t remember exactly where I read this, but you can do your own Google-Fu.Striking those last couple sentences and just outright saying that over 90% of the entire population born between 1956 and 1976 were exposed to enough lead to raise medical concern in early childhood, according to the table below.
I’m also back to throw in the table/material I’m referencing. If I’m going to make assertions, I should back them up.
And the source: Half of US population exposed to adverse lead levels in early childhood
If you want some idea of how little we cared about lead exposure, just look up the Tar Creek Superfund Site., which turned three nearby populated areas into ghost towns. It’s been reported that children would play on the enormous mounds around Picher, Oklahoma, and those things were covered in lead dust.
You should probably be aware that the cheeto never won a majority vote in America. Our democratic system is broken to the core though, and there is basically no way to fix it which is why he still won.
Along with that a good chunk, possibly majority of Americans is already more decent than you because we don’t use dehumanizing insults like the R word.
Several states have even proposed banning him from the ballot for his coup attempt, including mine. Unfortunately they are being tossed out, probably by judges that he put in power.
I think you would be surprised at how little power Americans actually have to affect change in our government. Short of dragging our knuckles and starting some uprising like his goons did, change can’t happen, and I’m not one to resort to that. I’d sooner head to Canada or Mexico.
It’s hilarious for all the “democracy” the US loves to “export”, it actually has a pretty terrible democracy. Wildly popular policies have no way to make their way to the government unless a rich person or corporation also lobbies for it.
Our democratic system is broken to the core though, and there is basically no way to fix it which is why he still won.
The biggest fixable issue is the whole thing where all electoral votes in most states go to one candidate. That is a thing that is fixable. Because that is a matter of state law. The problem being of course that most states don’t want to change that, because for most states it would mean less attention from presidential candidates because they’d be playing less of a role in determining who wins (by being worth a smaller, harder to shift margin). Convince every state to switch to the way Maine and Nebraska hand out electoral votes (2 based on statewide popular vote, one for each house districts vote - states get one elector for each member of Congress this assigns electors based on who would vote for that member of Congress) and the problem is mostly fixed (everything except not being able to win the presidency by just winning California and New York by large enough margins and having an average showing elsewhere). Importantly, it’s fixed in a way you don’t have to get most of the states to agree with all at once to make happen.
Abolishing the electoral college outright would require a constitutional amendment and those are intentionally very hard to do. An interstate compact to functionally eliminate it by getting 270 electoral votes worth of states to agree to assign their electors based on the national popular vote rather than anything at the state level is somewhat more doable but will also be legally challenged under the doctrine that the federal government is supposed to approve any interstate compact.
Several states have even proposed banning him from the ballot for his coup attempt, including mine. Unfortunately they are being tossed out, probably by judges that he put in power.
Any judge that gives a fuck about the law and the Constitution is going to toss those out, as they are premature. He’s a fuckwit that’s awful in all kinds of ways, but he is still due due process. Arguing 14th Amendment Section 3 applies to Trump requires arguing he has engaged in insurrection or rebellion or given aid or comfort to an enemy. Which he probably did, but “probably” is not generally a standard we punish or restrict people over, nor do we do that without due process and the only process so far in this case is “has been investigated and formally accused”.
This is one of the reasons that the Trump legal teams first and highest goal is to delay. If they delay long enough they can argue that the courts are being used as a form of electoral interference and possibly give Trump an election boost, if they delay even longer and he wins they can argue executive immunity. Because that’s the path with the best odds for Trump - he’s much better at manipulating crowds than at lying to judges.
Change would happen if 74 million Americans would grow a second brain cell and stop voting republican. If democrats were the only party winning elections, people would be more willing to participate in primaries or vote for a third party
Nope. There’s nothing special about Americans just like there’s nothing special about any nation or large group of people. You have to be deeply ignorant of history to think otherwise. We’re all the same species and when things play out in specific ways it’s always for a similar set of reasons and circumstances.
As Dan Carlin would say, “it’s a human thing.” You think this kind of insanity can’t happen in your country because it hasn’t yet. But you’re wrong. It can and has happened, many many times throughout history, in various forms, all over the world.
Again, Americans aren’t special and you have to be deeply stupid and/or ignorant to think otherwise.
Wouldn’t happen in my country. 🇨🇭
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They are just farm boomers or paradenplatz bankdad boomers. They will disappear with time, I don’t worry to much.
Also : Direct democracy and no président.
Maybe not now, but that’s not the point. The point is that we’re all human beings and what history shows us again and again is that as a species we are capable of talking ourselves into group-level insanity.
There’s nothing about history that should lead anyone to imagine that the capacity for group-insanity is somehow unique to any so-called “race” or national identity.
If you really want to argue that Americans are somehow uniquely subject to such things, you then have to account for the fact that a plurality of Americans are directly descended from European ancestry which in turn means that any difference has to be cultural as opposed to some kind of genetic quality innate to Americans.
The upshot here is not that the US is somehow unique, but is rather that the US is precisely what happens when Europeans take over a brand new continent peopled by civilizations that lack the technology and microbiology to resist.
Again, this idea of yours, that Americans are somehow unique or special, is patently absurd given what we know of history.
I see this take often and I see the same kinds of responses, but it’s really upsetting to see the main culprit is never mentioned.
Yes, some of us are just hateful, but most of the people voting for Trump are exposed to and consume wayyyyy too much propaganda.
Our media has failed us in sooooo many ways all to chase the Almighty Dollar™. We have literal entertainment networks masquerading as “News” because they’re allowed to act however they wish. We have actual “news” corporations acting like entertainment. We have Fox News and Newsmax straight up fabricating a reality for their consumers that is almost exactly the opposite of reality, and then we have CNN, MSNBC, etc, that would rather follow The Days Of Our Trumps T.V drama as opposed to actually doing hard news.
We have 1/3 of our population living in a fantasy reality, 1/3 being made to be enraged about an orange man’s dumb tweet instead of learning about potentially good candidates to vote for, and 1/3 that’s just apathetic to it all.
We have a gigantic media propaganda problem… We have no real press that the 1st amendment was made to protect, instead we have corporations that are taking advantage of those protections to do whatever they want to make the most money, to hell with what happens to the country…
Edit: all that to say, the people that we see as “OMG how could you possibly vote for him again, are you a monster?” Think “Trump was the best president ever, every news show or podcast or Facebook interaction I have had or watched says as much and proves it.”
Fuck off with the “all Americans” garbage you fucking idiot. I don’t even care that it’s obviously bait, anyone who ever implies I voted for that can just end themselves for all I care. Suffering through this shit then being blamed by brainless retards
Liberals: we need drastic change
Also liberals: how dare someone step out of line
Huh?
Rage bait
Def. But the xenophobia and superiority complex on lemmy is outta pocket, tbh.
It was always that bad, it was just better at hiding it in the past. Anyone who grows up poor has always known what’s up. There’s a reason the crooked rural sheriff meme exists… If it wasn’t for massive amounts of racism folks would probably recognize the same patterns in the cities.
It’s not new, it’s just that the dysfunction got so big that it started impacting the lives of white Liberals. Fuck, go read about native history in the US. They knew what was up from the beginning.
Britain did brexit and a bunch of other countries elected right wing nut jobs in response to globalization, not just the us
Should… Should we bring democracy to the US by invading them?
Not gonna lie, being a nurse during a pandemic with that jackass as president broke something in me
At least he did Operation Warpspeed. Funny that some of his supporters turned on him for that.
Great skills, giving a tiny fraction of the budget to vaccine research during a global pandemic that halted the economy. I’m sure no one else would have thought of that.
It wasn’t the giving money, it was the fast tracking in terms of regulations. Many people in Trump’s position would not have done that and would have waited the expected 18 months instead of the 11 that it actually took. Some in the industry were concerned as it was happening. Plenty of other countries dragged their feet in the approval process more than the US did.
Trump wasn’t single handedly responsible for the approvals. Far from it. In fact, it wouldn’t surprise me if he didn’t know much of the details. But it still seems he was pushing for it where other people wouldn’t have. I’m not sure Biden would have. Trump likes to play fast and loose where Biden is a bit stuffier.
“Thank you for your hard work!”
(But actually thanks, nurses are the best. How can we make your day better next time we’re in the hospital for something completely our own fault?)
Trump and Biden both have dementia really bad. It’s been just as much of a shitshow under Biden.
Biden is continuing the construction of Trump’s border wall. And Biden was VP when kids were being put in cages at the mexican border. Biden was VP when Obama deported more immigrants than any other president combined. Biden was in favor of segregation back when MLK was going around giving speeches.
“I don’t want my kids growing up in a racial jungle” is something Biden is on video saying in congress…or was it during one of his campaigns? Can’t remember.
My point is. Democrat, republican…it doesn’t matter, the same shit always happens and the only thing that changes is who’s giving praise and who’s giving criticism.
Yeah, it was horrible. No war in the Ukraine, no war in Israel, houses were affordable and gas was under $2/gal. Absolutely despicable.
So you want COVID back? Because that was clearly Trump’s fault.
How so? Did he tell China to release the virus?
I’m basically making fun of you for equating correlation with causation.
Not very bright, are you?
Every country got Covid, basically. You know that, right?
Obviously. But Trump was president so he was in charge.
If your bit was sarcasm, then that makes more sense. Trump was not particularly good on Covid, but we would have had a big problem regardless of who was president at the time.
Besides what you have already been told, there already was war in both Ukraine and Israel. Ukraine’s open military conflict with Russia has been active since at least 2014, and Israel has been in conflict with Palestine and neighbours since its foundation following WW2.
Wesern media not covering them until it was relevant to the US national interests and them not happening are entirely different things.
Yes, Russia invaded Crimea during Obama’s administration. Then, magically, during four years of Trump, they didn’t do anything. As soon as Biden comes into office, they’re back at it again. Weird how that works.
There were also no major incidents in Israel or Gaza during his term. Definitely no full scale invasion. Oh, but those mean tweets!
Fuck you. My best friend was killed in Donbass in 2017 during the Crimea invasion. He was fighting for Ukraine against Russians invaders so he could liberate his family and homeland. You not knowing about an ongoing war and using this as some sort of gotcha to prop up a politician that hates you is fucking insulting. So fuck you. Slava Ukraini, Heroiam Slava.
Sorry about your friend, but I’m pretty sure a lot more Ukrainians died since Biden came into office than during Trump’s term.
I remember when Biden invaded Ukraine and told Israel to attack Gaza. That was after he pulled the ‘housing price’ and ‘gas price’ levers in the White House, of course.
Biden’s failings are more in what he allowed to happen through inaction rather than what he directly caused.
“Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.” — Hanlon’s Razor
Hmm… which would I rather have, someone passive that doesn’t directly cause problems or an unapologetic fascist who uses Hitler-style language in his speeches and promises to open concentration camps?
But I’m sure you’re white, heterosexual, Christian and male, so you’ll be fine.
Sounds like you have no problem with using racist language, as long as it isn’t directed towards you. Hypocritical much?
What racist language? What are you talking about?
Oh, you didn’t even notice?
Feel free to quote me. This should be interesting.
Hey pal, you just blow in from stupid town?
Do you exist purely in the present with no knowledge of how past actions create future problems?
I legitimately don’t think they do. Hence why when Trump got elected they said he was fixing the economy day one… because it was going up… from the things Obama did…
They really can’t grasp that it’s not always who is president on that date. Or that somethings aren’t caused by them.
Yep, like they lack object permanence.
Are you saying Trump’s $2 gas caused the war in Ukraine?
Are you saying Biden caused the war in Ukraine and Trump caused $2 gas, without causing $3-4 gas today?
Do you understand that the economy has momentum that takes years to fully manifest? We don’t live in a command economy, lmao.
Holy shit you’re legitimately a lunatic, to be referencing fucking WE as a source.
Either way, nothing you’ve pointed to means Trump’s terrible economic choices for short term gains and long term disaster didn’t also impact gas prices, or even the majority of the impact.
Please, keep consuming anti-science brainrot and continue to persist in your white-supremacist echo chamber. I’m sure one day you’ll hate your way into happiness!
But Biden DID clamp down on domestic drilling (and canceled the Keystone pipeline). Is it anti-science to say that reducing the supply of a good will inevitably lead to rising prices?
You can argue that he did it for a good reason (to protect the environment and increase the sales of electric vehicles, for example), but you can’t argue that he didn’t take those steps without being aware of the effect they would have on prices.
Sure, he did one thing that likely did impact gas prices. That does not in any way mean that Trump’s fucking terrible economic policy isn’t a thing. It’s anti-science to deny climate change, which the WE does.
I never made the point that it didn’t affect gas prices, you failed to deny Trump’s impact on gas prices. This is how logic works, though I know it’s difficult for you.
He’s already said he’s basically going to be 10 times worse if he gets reelected. I’m not sure why the people who support him think that’s a good thing. For a party that claims to love “freedom” they sure seem desperate to elect a fascist dictator
Fascism is a president trying to take away constitutional rights like genocide Joe is with the second amendment and limiting gun rights. Trump has already said he won’t get involved in any foreign conflicts, which is far better than funding Israels genocide.
Just ask yourself who you’re going to have more rights under Trump or Biden, then you’ll see who the fascist dictator is.
I will have more rights under Biden. There’s more to rights than guns. Like as a gay man if I lose my right to exist, that’s a bit harsher than my right to own something.
Ok. I will. This is Biden’s plan, right? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025
Weird, because that article talks a lot about Trump.
In fairness, it’s not Trump’s plan, either, it’s Heritage’s. They’re doing it for Trump, but I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if Trump has never even heard of it. Lol
He’s had meetings with Heritage on how to implement the plan. They are already in the process of lining up his appointees so that they can hit the ground running. You are badly misinformed as to how far this has already gone.
With Trump him sitting in meetings still doesn’t mean he’s heard of it. Lol.
Anyway, I’m just saying Heritage is the mastermind, not Trump.
Trump hasn’t said the truth about one thing his entire life.
The great constitutional rights of living in a country where schools have to debate whether to run active shooter drills.
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Man, even disregarding the whole gun control debate Trump isn’t pro-gun, the suckers just believe what they want to about him.
But sure, Biden is the anti-second amendment guy. People like the person above are just fools.
“Noo that’s different he means black people!” - that guy, probably
That was Reagan as CA governor when he cracked down with gun laws due to Black Panthers protesting while armed.
It’s Trump. He’s essentially already said he wants to be a dictator. He’s started calling his opponents “vermin”, he’s stated on the record that he’s going to deploy the army on day 1 of his reelection to suppress any dissenters.
It’s not subtle
He’s going to destroy America so he can keep being the center of attention and make it illegal to disagree with him
There’s a certain document called the constitution that gives Americans the right to assemble and to free speech that not even the president can fuck with.
Are you more scared of a fascist president who’s intent on limiting your natural rights or trump because he said a scary word like vermin.
You’re honestly following too much left wing media, a more balanced approach to how you consume news will open your eyes up to what factors you need to consider before voting next year.
Haha, you think presidents can’t change constitutional laws.
Are you more scared of a fascist president who’s intent on limiting your natural rights or trump because he said a scary word like vermin.
For funsies, in the same statement (iirc), trump said their “sad, miserable existence will be crushed.” But you’re right, nothing to worry about /s
Wait… so the Constitution will stop Trump from enacting his fascist agenda but it won’t stop Biden from taking away The Precious?
My balanced sources say Biden has so far been significantly better than Trump ever was
following too much left wing media
I’m referring to things that Donald Trump has actually said openly on camera. It’s literally all he talks about. It has nothing to do with who’s reporting it, these are the actual words Trump has said.
I’m not particularly a leftist, I consider myself to be a centrist. I don’t particularly love Joe Biden. That doesn’t mean I’m going to go out and vote for a cartoon super villain though
He’s going to exchange love letters with Kim Jong Un again, isn’t he?
Trivia question: Which politician has proposed “suspending the constitution” in recent years?
Hint: It’s the same politician that said "take the guns first, go through due process second.”
Another hint: Trump said both those things.
They love the freedom to own slaves and stuff like that
Hey, as long as they can stick it to the libs
Freedom for me, chains for you. They don’t actually care about real freedom.
They are sure the Leopard will never eat their face.
Yup. They think Daddy Trump is going lock up all the liberals and create a
facistconservative paradise.
There are several different groups supporting him for different reasons. The biggest, I’d argue, is the slightly right very populist. They’re not into fascism per se, they just want a wrecking ball like Trump to go in and break apart the elite institutions they blame for all the problems and see no other way of influencing. There certainly are supporters who are encroaching on fascism territory. Then there’s long time Republicans who have flipped on a bunch of issues to try to get support from these people Trump activated.
You’d think after he didn’t pardon the people in person that stormed the Capitol they’d smarten up. If that didn’t open their eyes, nothing will.
Why didn’t he pardon everyone who committed crimes for him? Is there a good reason?
Because he doesn’t care about anyone but himself. If you gave that dude an organ he’d ghost you.
Right, but if he wants people to break the law for him, pardoning everyone who does makes sense
Why? They did it without the pardoning, and he walked away with his hands “clean” by not acknowledging what they did.
Personally I think it’s funny seeing these people get time in prison, screaming for Trump to acknowledge them and pardon them lol.
He believes they are supposed to go to jail for him to prove their loyalty. He really thinks he’s a mob boss or something
He didn’t want the folks who would pay him to suddenly believe they didn’t have to pay, or be ticked off that they were having to pay (remember, rich folks can get snippy). I can’t remember the number that was floated, but it wasn’t cheap.
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Y’all Americans are some stupid bastards having president Like biden who can’t form sentences, and calling Trump a bad guy. Like we all know that Russia wouldn’t have Attacked Ukraine, Blackrock wouldn’t have gotten contract for “rebuilding” Ukraine. Having your tax payer money being spent on wars, you autistic removed.
Imagine thinking Trump is more coherent than Biden. Have you heard em lately?
This jumble right here is a perfect example of idiot constituents
Say what you want about Trump but he was one of the presidents ever
Some things sure did happen
Anyone else’s brain autofill an adjective here?
Yes, and I was like “how the fuck do so many people actually agree with that!?” Then I realized by dumb brain added “best” lol
Here you dropped this: worst
I mean andrew jackson was big into genocide.
Yeah, Trump was big into genocide too, of the Yemenese. He personally vetoed a bipartisan resolution passed by congress to condemn the Saudis for their genocide in Yemen
But then we see the genocide of the Palestinians by Israel happening right now, and Biden not only enthusiastically reiterates his support for Israel but works to punishe anyone showing support and solidarity with the victims.
And that is why Biden is polling so low right now.
Trump was literally an average/slightly below average president, he just said the quite part that you’re not supposed to say out loud all the time. He doesn’t have anything on Andrew Jackson, Reagan or Teddy Roosevelt.
I’d swap out Roosevelt for Nixon - Teddy’s interventionism set us on a bad path, but at least we got national parks and antitrust laws out of it. Nixon was just pure shit show start to finish.
You can add without swapping
But “My Cartoon President” will come back, I can enjoy it until the apocalypse starts.
Can anyone tell me where all the liberals who were worried about migrants went? Or the ones worried about all the oil extraction on national land? Or building the wall because it disrupts butterflies or whatever?
Right here motherfucker.
Still here, we just stopped talking to you because you’re an asshole.
It’s almost like we don’t want Biden, but we think Trump would be far worse, so we’re doing what we have to do.
This is what Trump will do: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025
If you do not think that is objectively worse than Biden, you need to get your eyes checked. Or you’re a Republican.
I’m having a tough time caring about a “democracy” that ignores majority opinions. Trump can’t really end something that doesn’t exist
Trump can put you in the concentration camps he is planning on building. You know, the ones he openly says he’s going to build? And I hope you’re not one of the “vermin.”
Right here, bro. Wanna fite?
Same, right here. Never went anywhere. Where did all the trumpy insurrectionists from J6 go?
Unfortunately walking free mostly
There’s still investigations on going (last I heard) but we basically have to just wait
I remember the shitshow. Like in general everywhere and at all times.
He is polling above Biden in every single national poll somehow. Unless something drastic happens in the next 365, Trump will be the 47th POTUS. Americans have a really short memory.
Guess if Dems didn’t want that they’d give another candidate a genuine shot, but ol’ Genocide Joe needs his legacy. This’ll be it.
Incumbents historically have a huge advantage, any new candidate would get absolutely swept by Trump. Most Americans are embarrassingly out of touch with politics
any new candidate would get absolutely swept by Trump
The current candidate will get swept by Trump. Or have the polls changed recently?
Polls also had Hillary stomping tRump. Polls shouldn’t be trusted. Voting is the only thing that matters polls dont win elections voting does.
Yup, polls can’t account for something like an “October surprise”. In Hillary’s case in 2016, that was the James Comey letter that was leaked by Republicans Congress. It had the desired effect, with her poll numbers dropping virtually overnight. He rescinded the letter, but not fast enough to make a difference. This was all prompted by FBI agents in the NYC office who were leaking like a sieve to the press. So if you ever hear someone grouse about prosecutors supposedly interfering with elections because they are prosecuting Trump for his crimes, remind them that Trump got a whole presidential term out of FBI agents interfering for him.
Especially a candidate with left wing politics. There’s a reason Democrats run center-left candidates for president once it gets to the general. Those are the ones that win.
Unfortunately, the time for a better candidate was last election cycle. Incumbency advantage is too critical to give up.
That being said, voting harder won’t ever move America to the left, that has to be done at the grassroots level.
Incumbency advantage is too critical to give up.
At this point, what advantage? He’s been polling worse than Trump. He’s more of an anchor than an engine now.
That being said, voting harder won’t ever move America to the left, that has to be done at the grassroots level.
With Dems there’s always an excuse to do nothing and hope really hard for vague change later.
Incumbency advantage persists. Swapping to a new candidate would likely be worse, even if the candidate is better, purely based on electoralism.
Yes, the dems do nothing. This is better than Republicans, who do a lot of bad shit. Voting dem won’t fix issues, it will just prevent many more from cropping up. What fixes issues is grassroots praxis.
Incumbency advantage persists. Swapping to a new candidate would likely be worse, even if the candidate is better, purely based on electoralism.
I’m sure many people will be comforted by that when he loses.
Yes, the dems do nothing. This is better than Republicans, who do a lot of bad shit.
Read up on the Ratchet Effect.
What fixes issues is grassroots praxis.
I too, like vague undefined concepts that obfuscate real potential solutions.
It’s not about comfort, voting harder won’t meaningfully improve anything, just prevent it from getting worse.
I’m aware of the ratchet effect.
Do you want me to list out every meaningful thing you can do to improve your life and the lives of others? Advocate, unionize, organize, volunteer, start a community garden, work at a soup kitchen, educate yourself and others, help someone in need, etc. It isn’t that complicated, really, and your denial of actually doing shit to help and instead whine about how Biden is a Neoliberal ghoul (which I agree with) and therefore can’t beat a fascist (I disagree with this) is absurd.
Republicans actively laugh at protesters. If people are protesting, they think, “I’ve gotta be doing something right to be triggering the libs like this.”
/Grew up in a Republican household with all Republican extended family
In fact, the largest protests in history (to that date) were in opposition to starting the Iraq war. Fat load of good that did.
Democrats protest. Republicans vote. Guess who’s running the show.
Polls a year out from the election. They have zero predictive value with regard to the ultimate outcome. Any pollster will tell you this. In fact, they have been telling us precisely this, but maybe not all of us are paying attention.
These results are still deeply disturbing.
What happened to, “you can’t trust the polls”? And, “see, Hillary”?
Anyway…
This is not true. Boomer landline polls also had va going red and look how that worked out.
I think there’s a significant portion of the population that is unpollable and it’s really started to make things less certain.
It’s nuts how short people’s memory is. It was just a few years ago that yahoos were invading our nation’s Capitol and Trump was orchestrating a coup. Now Republicans are trying to convince everyone that wasn’t really a coup, and have you considered BLM and scary trans people? Meanwhile the Trump camp has their 900 page plan to efficiently make the federal government into a right wing arm of the Republican Party.
