Nestle? Spectrum? Some random company nobody knows about?
I can’t believe you even put Spectrum in the same tier as Nestle lol.
One let babies starve for profit, the other has shitty internet service /customer service. Seems equal /s.
Dave’s Electronics at 4th & Elm
It really is just a matter of scale. I’ve known some evil little fuckers, but they lack the resources to commit full scale atrocities. They’re not employing children in hazardous conditions or selling tainted blood, but that’s only because they don’t have access to a steady supply of either.
The ethics is actually very simple. Taking those two examples:
Kids love to work if you just give them the chance. What kid wouldn’t want to go and show how they can do grownup things and at the same time make money to help their family survive? It happens all the time with family businesses. Just because I’m a wage slave means my kids can’t contribute? What kind of elitist bullshit is that?
The rest is just regulations meant to strangle the small businessman. You’ve got some pencil neck in an office somewhere who wants to stop LIFE SAVING MEDICATION from getting to people who need it. Bitter little fuck cares more about swinging his dick around and writing “laws” than actually helping people. Most of that blood is perfectly fine but the paperwork got fucked up and sure - maybe some isn’t fine - but if you ask the guy bleeding out from a stab wound if he wants some, he’ll say “YES!” In any case, malaria will probably get the poor fucker before the AIDS does. And he probably already has the HIV anyway.
/s for those last two paragraphs because it’s not an argument that I’d make, but it very much is a parallel to arguments that I’ve seen being made in real life by seemingly normal people.
And then of course people tend to operate on a spectrum of
*literally does not care
*only cares if it’s happening to me
*only cares if someone else finds out (because then I’ll have to pretend I never noticed)
*cares, but not enough to lose my livelihood over it
*cares, but is really good about not thinking too hard and/or focusing on all the nice things instead of the things that probably aren’t even all that bad
*will think about quitting, but realizes that they other guys are just as bad (or worse)
*will quit and go live in a cavedeleted by creator
Classic Dave! I so much hate Dave and everything he stands for!
I’ve never even heard of Dave! What did he do??
He is so evil that there are no words to describe it.
Johnson&Johnson
swindled does a few episodes about them. It’s FUCKING INFURIATING the shit they got away with.
get away with FTFY
Damn you right.
Chiquita bananas. They literally stole entire south/central American countries and used death squads and the CIA to enslave the workers and kill them when they asked for such unreasonable demands like being paid in actual currency
Don’t forget Dole. They caused the annexation is Hawai’i.
Both have paid terrorist organizations in the last couple decades.
Banana Republic is a term coined for all the countries where this company operated.
As someone who lives in a banana republic that now has banana republic stores in its malls, this is a perplexing and sort of insulting end result, and I don’t understand how the name of the store ever took off
And we’ll never even get to know what the Gros Miguel Banana tasted like!
It tastes like the marshmallow banana candies/“fake” banana flavouring
That’s the problem, really. Numerous companies do unspeakable evil, which makes it very difficult to name and shame any one of them.
Right. Corporations aren’t the problem, they’re just a symptom of the real problem. Even though they’re evil, they’re just a product of their environment. The “good” corporations aren’t profitable and go out of business.
I don’t know if there’s a phrase in english for it, but in slovak we say a fish stinks from the head, basically meaning company is whatever the very top managers are like.
We have “a fish rots from the head down”, so very similar.
That’s a good idiom, I like it.
Unquestionably, the Dutch East India Company
USA
Lemmy moment
I’m guessing it would some of the big companies of colonial times, like the British East or Dutch India Companies.
Dutch East India Company - The original corporate raiders.
MASS ATROCITIES!
came here to say this. though if American slave traders had actually been a unified corporation I’d be pointing at them.
They are the Bug Bad Evil in my pirate themed DnD campaign. Or a proxy of them at least. What better justification for becoming a pirate than them? To quote a real pirate captain from the 1700, “They rob the poor under cover of law, we plunder the rich under the cover of our own courage.”
That’s a 10/10 quote
And no. 2 is The British East India Company
Yea I probably got them mixed up. The British one is what I meant. It’s probably number 1?
No lol you are right, the Dutch one was worse
Stone Mountain Coal Company and the Baldwin–Felts Detective Agency
Cliff notes?
Murdered numerous workers, women, and children in the US for starting a union. Government let them do it with no repercussions. .
Who did?
Everyone’s already mentioned some of the more popular ones so I’ll throw coke in their for the whole Columbian death squad and workers right violations in south America as well as Amazon. I don’t think I need to explain that last one.
What about the South Sea Company?
Please take my upvote.
This is the answer, hands down.
I’m sure there are worse, and it’s not one company, but the companies that provide malware to dictatorships are pretty bad, and western countries are sheltering them/not doing much about them.
Examples:
- NSO Group (Pegasus)
- HackingTeam
- Gamma/Lench/Vilicius (FinFisher)
Pegasus is bad news.
Nice! I didn’t even consider digital terrorism
All fossil fuel companies, for fucking up the climate without a hint of remorse.
Legalized drug companies: alcohol, tobacco, coffee. Tobacco and alcohol companies have been more or less reigned in by all kinds of regulations, but big coffee is still roaming free out there.
Even though Nestle and others are bad as well, I think they’re not quite in the same level of evil as the previous ones.
What’s so bad about coffee? If you don’t drink too much its not that bad right?
I guess that applies to alcohol as well.
The exploitation that comes with it
Right that makes sense. I don’t know how much faith to put in fair trade labels but they’re probably not all bad.
