• @[email protected]
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    “Inches in 8.33 feet”

    “Mm in a foot”

    Fool, the scientist in me is infuriated. Good work, mate!

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    Ackchyually

    Fever is not 100F. A fever is defined as 100.4F. Why 100.4 when 100 is a much easier to remember and handle number? Because fever is defined in humans as 38C, and that converts to 100.4F.

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      It’s been a while but I think they tried to establish 100F as the average human body temperature. But after they established that baseline turns out they were off by 1.4 degrees and couldn’t change it.

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        People’s body temperature used to be higher a century ago, but I think it was less then 1°C.

        EDIT: Apparently since the early 1800s, men’s body temperature changed about 0.59°C and women’s about 0.32°C.

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          That’s really interesting. Does anyone know why?

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            I believe there’s a theory that the average person had at least one source of inflammation in their body.

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        You’re right. April 8th 2000 Christopher Walken caught a fever that changed the course of history forever. He had a fever and the only cure was more cow bell.

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      A fever is defined as 100.4F

      Who defines it like that? I’m asking because I wouldn’t be surprised if the definition differs between orgs

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      That’s a sigfig error. A fever is 38C, which is 2 significant digits. Converting to 100° F goes up an order of magnitude so you get a free sigfig, but unless the original number was 38.0C, you don’t get that 0.4, you’re implying precision that the original measurement never gave you.

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          But the fever definition wasn’t that precise. They took the average temperature, 36.88 C, rounded it up to 37 C, and somewhat arbitrarily defined a fever as 1 C above the (rounded) average. Which is perfectly fine, but it means the equivalent in Fahrenheit is 100, not 100.4.

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    Mother tell the children not to check the temps. Tell the children not to read my books what they mean what they say.

    Sorry i read Danzig so I though of the band

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    I’ll grant that farenheit has merit, but for me, the foot/inches distance works a bit better for casual measurements, and stuff that doesn’t have to be very precise.

    Beyond maybe someone’s height, I’d rather work in metric. I’m also very much in favor of celsius and I still have trouble converting between the temperature scales. I grew up with temps in degrees C, and height and some sort distances in feet/inches. IDK, I’m weird.

    The date thing drives me nuts though.

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    Another fucking imperial versus metric meme, never seen this before. Most of us use metric already, shut the fuck up

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      I switched to metric for all my personal projects right around the time I started doing any sort of project that had a form of measuring. Metric is better full stop

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      As an American I approve this comment.

      I’ve been into 3D printing for a few years and it has forced me into metric. Now my brain works in millimeters and it’s way better

      Our countries insistence on using imperial is evidence of our resistance to change. Even the creators of the system have abandoned it

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    this is bait. picking arbitrary points of comparison where one looks clean and the other sloppy. who cares about 8.3 feet or Danzig?

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    Beer was the only drink you could get in prole pubs. The proles were supposed not to drink gin, though in practice they could get hold of it easily enough. The game of darts was in full swing again, and the knot of men at the bar had begun talking about lottery tickets. Winston’s presence was forgotten for a moment. There was a deal table under the window where he and the old man could talk without fear of being overheard. It was horribly dangerous, but at any rate there was no telescreen in the room, a point he had made sure of as soon as he came in.

    "E could ‘a drawed me off a pint,’ grumbled the old man as he settled down behind a glass. 'A 'alf litre ain’t enough. It don’t satisfy. And a ‘ole litre’s too much. It starts my bladder running. Let alone the price.’

    ‘You must have seen great changes since you were a young man,’ said Winston tentatively.

    The old man’s pale blue eyes moved from the darts board to the bar, and from the bar to the door of the Gents, as though it were in the bar-room that he expected the changes to have occurred.

    ‘The beer was better,’ he said finally. ‘And cheaper! When I was a young man, mild beer – wallop we used to call it – was fourpence a pint. That was before the war, of course.’

    -1984

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    If the USA wants a system of measurement based entirely on water for temperature and mass, and distance as one millionth of the distance from the equator to the pole, then I’m sure they’ll call.

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      How many meters are in 13.2 km? 13,200

      How many feet are in 13.2 mi?
      Break out a calculator

      Why is my country so arrogant that they will argue for an objectively worse measurement system?

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        There are 5,280 feet in a Mile

        5,280 * 13.2 
        = 5,280 * 10 + 5,280 * 3 + 5,280 * 0.2
        = 5,280 * 10 + 5,280 * 3 + 5,280 / 5
        = 52,800 + 15,840 + 1,056
        = 69,696 nice
        

        I’m sorry you suck at math to the extent that this is considered absurdly difficult for you. Sucks to Suck.

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    Americans saying that F° is a more human and relatable temperature measurement, how many times have you been to Dantzig in the 18th century again? Do you even know where Dantzig is? Because i’ve seen water freezing quite a few times before.

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    I think the two points missing from most debates are

    1. The imperial system does a damn good job at measuring things the way a human would. A foot is roughly the length of a big foot. A single degree farenheit is just big enough that you could guesstimate it with enough practice. If the temperatures are negative, you dump sand on the roads instead of salt.

    2. It’s like seven units of measurement in a trenchant. You never have to convert gallons to cubic miles. You never have to convert from dots to angstoms, and nobody has ever had to convert the surveyors mile to the nautical mile. It feels schizophrenic because claiming it’s one singular system is like saying Italian, French, and Portuguese languages are all regional dialects of Europeanese.

    My point isn’t “it’s not a bug, it’s a feature”, I’m saying for the average non-scientist there may be a logical reason why we like it so much

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        Lol is it?

        Think of all the different numbers you have to divide different units in our system by to convert.

        numbers are base 10 for every single society on earth. Metric units always scale by 10. It’s literally perfect for how we interpret numbers

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        No no. The rest of the world is constantly out of sorts on what common measurements are. It’s like how monolingual non-English-speaking people are constantly aware they’re not speaking the natural language of English.

        /s

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    Saturday Night Live actually had a good sketch about this a few weeks ago:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYqfVE-fykk

    Washington: "We fight for a nation where we choose our own laws… choose our own leaders… and choose our own systems of weights and measures.

    I dream that one day, our proud nation will measure weights in pounds, and that 2000 pounds shall be called a ton."

    Rebel: “And what will 1000 pounds be called sir?”

    Washington: “Nothing. Cause will have no word for that.”

    Washington: “Distance will be measured in inches, feet, yards and miles. 12 inches to a foot!”

    Rebel: “12 feet to a yard…”

    Washington: “If only it were so simple. 3 feet to a yard.”

    Rebel: “And how many yards to a mile?”

    Washington: “Nobody knows.”

    Rebel: “Ok, how many feet to a mile?”

    Washington: “5280, of course! It’s a simple number that everyone will remember.”

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    Hard agree with metric for the most part. I forever stand by Fahrenheit for temperatures you experience, and Celsius for science. I don’t want to have to use decimals in my everyday life, but that’s just me

    And really, K is the ideal temperature unit for scientific purposes, since there’s actually a hard starting point, rather than picking an arbitrary state change at an arbitrary pressure of a kind of arbitrary compound.

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      I don’t want to use decimals in my everyday life

      Don’t you use decimals for prices already?

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      The measurement for temperatures you experience really does not matter outside of what you’re used to, do you think non-Americans get confused about how cold 6°C or 23°C is?

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        Temperature scale doesn’t matter in daily life, so I hate that there’s always this argument about which scale makes more sense. Knowing what a given temperature feels like is no more difficult than remembering that water freezes at 32 degrees fahrenheit and boils at 212.

        I’m all for a system based around multiples of 10, but for temperature, even Celsius isn’t done that way, other than 0 and 100.

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          Every temperature scale in our usual range is pretty arbitrary at the end of the day, but you have to admit that the fixpoints of Fahrenheit are particularly useless in everyday life.

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        Americans always say they prever Fahrenheit over Celsius because the measurment is more exact. Also Americans: "The weather is in the fifties today.“

        They just like to find excuses why they prefer the things that they are used to. It’s human nature.

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        You forgot about the arbitrary “standard” pressure part and missed the point by a light second.

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          I didnt forget, i said pretty good frame of reference because it didnt feel necessary given the context of people using it for real world everyday things. Which is typically at “fuck it, close enough” for most people to not have to worry about

          If i said perfect, excellent, amazing, the best then i might concede your point, but i didnt so i dont however correct you are that there are other factors that can change the points of reference

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        It gets way easier for “feel” of weather too! In most habitable places in the world, 0°C is around as cold as you’ll regularly see (also a handy number for when you need to watch for ice). Similarly, 40°C is around as high as most habitable places get, also a nice easy number to work with.

        In fahrenheit, these numbers are 30 and 105, I mean I can get rounding down for ease of use but you’re moving the reference points a lot to make it 25 to 100 for what you usually see and that’s certainly not more intuitive than 0-40

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          Consider it as a general scale from 0-100. First third is freezing, second third is alright, the rest is kinda bleh. Above or below the scale, take caution when you’re outside