• @[email protected]
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    1192 years ago

    As another user pointed out, most bacteria and other microscopic forms of life don’t really “breath” in the way we think of it. Often they just absorb oxygen from their surrounding environments.

    They can be washed away, killed by chlorine (pools), or killed by salt imbalance (ocean). However it’s really hard (read near impossible) to kill them all, and even if you did they exist in our environments naturally and from other humans as well as on things we’ve touched recently. So they repopulate quickly.

    There are some arguments that Sodium Laurel Sulfate kills “good” bacteria on our skin.

  • @[email protected]
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    232 years ago

    I am not a microbiologist. However I do know that bacteria are pretty resilient, and most pathogens and parasites can live for at least a few hours outside of a host. Plus your skin is really not all that smooth at a microscopic level, there are all sorts of little nooks and crannies to hold onto.

    Drowning wouldn’t really be a concern for them, imo, but additives like chlorine are specifically meant to be disinfectants.

  • Greg Clarke
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    I’m a Demodex folliculorum and I’m currently dating a Demodex brevis so I’m somewhat of an expert. Our host is pretty gross and rarely showers which has made the real estate in this area really expensive. We’ve been trying to move to another host but the opportunity hasn’t come up yet. Anyway, to answer your question, we have scuba gear.

  • @[email protected]
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    I can’t say I know the answer, but I do know that one of these bugs – Tardigrades – are extremely hard to kill. IIRC one was put into a vacuum and removed after some time. It was either completely fine right away or after a little while.

    If I had to give a guess to other things, some of them probably die, yes. Hopefully someone else who knows more will be able to give more information!

  • @[email protected]
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    212 years ago

    Bugs etc don’t have lungs like we do. If they are very small they just absorb oxygen through their bodies and if bigger have lots of holes in their bodies called spiracles.

    Many insects can also breathe underwater (at least for a short period of time) and look silver underwater due to the air trapped around them.

  • @[email protected]
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    222 years ago

    Now hear me out:

    What if you jumped through a tall fire, naked, a few times? Nothing so fast as to actually burn you, but enough to make you hairless.

    I’m fairly certain that would kill quite a bit of the microbiome.

    • @[email protected]
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      112 years ago

      Showering does kill mites and bacteria that are all over your body. They’re quite resilient though so you’re never really rid of them.

    • Cryptic Fawn
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      132 years ago

      Yea, I wanna know if I’m committing genocide every time I shower or not. 😈

      • @[email protected]
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        142 years ago

        Shower, probably. Part of the function of soap (and scrubbing) is to dislodge dirt and bacteria, so it gets washed away.

        So you’re either committing genocide by killing them outright, or forcefully relocating them from your body. (also why 99% soap generally doesn’t matter too much compared to regular soap)

        • @[email protected]
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          Doesn’t the nature of subsurfacants rip apart most bacteria? That’s what I have always been taught, but my mother supplemented a lot of my education and I have learned she hasn’t always been 100% right… although neither were my textbooks l… so I guess flaws all around

  • ALERT
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    2372 years ago

    I wish Lemmy would grow to the point when these Reddit moments of "I’m a dermatologist, and actually…” happen as usual as they happen on Reddit.

      • @[email protected]
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        122 years ago

        Literally three days ago nobody needed to summon a dermatologist.

        As a nerd with regular cycles of bad skin from dermatitis since my teen years I doubt nobody in a community of nerds needed to summon a dermatologist, but we may soon hit the sweet spot of being big enough to have specific expertise in comments without people lying for clout or karma farming!

    • @[email protected]
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      712 years ago

      That used to be the case on reddit. These days you have to scroll through hundreds of lame jokes to find an actual discussion.

      • ALERT
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        As far as I notice, puns are an important aspect of English-speaking culture, so I understand that and I’m ok with that. At least for me this “actually…” moment is always worth the scrolling effort :)

        • trashcan
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          72 years ago

          There’s a time and a place and it’s not just wherever you can shove one in.

          • @[email protected]
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            52 years ago

            It’s just the nature of a completely open and well known forum, I am okay with that. If I want a more edifying conversation, I would look elsewhere anyway.

            The complete openness to thought both beautiful and disgusting is what provides value to reddit, and will eventually provide value to Lemmy. It will be even better on Lemmy because instances that are aligned or adjacent can remain “friends” or federated so the users van easily maintain their echo chambers and create accounts to explore outside of them.

      • I am an expert on the little bugs that live on your skin. Swimming for extended periods not only doesn’t harm them, it makes them stronger. Try to limit swimming to 2 hours or less or they may become strong enough to take over control of your body!

        • @[email protected]
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          32 years ago

          That’s super interesting- would you have some sources or at least some keywords I could search for more info on how this happens?

          • @[email protected]
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            Guess now’s an appropriate time o post this…

            Do you have a source on that? Source? A source. I need a source. Sorry, I mean I need a source that explicitly states your argument. This is just tangential to the discussion. No, you can’t make inferences and observations from the sources you’ve gathered. Any additional comments from you MUST be a subset of the information from the sources you’ve gathered. You can’t make normative statements from empirical evidence. Do you have a degree in that field? A college degree? In that field? Then your arguments are invalid. No, it doesn’t matter how close those data points are correlated. Correlation does not equal causation. Correlation does not equal causation. CORRELATION. DOES. NOT. EQUAL. CAUSATION. You still haven’t provided me a valid source yet. Nope, still haven’t. I just looked through all 308 pages of your user history, figures I’m debating a glormpf supporter. A moron.

    • @[email protected]
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      You will still find these on Quora. They don’t even need to say what they are, their subtitle will just say it all

    • Cryptic Fawn
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      102 years ago

      Hey now, we can just lie and pretend to know what we’re talking about, just like most on Reddit! 🥳😉

  • AndromedusGalacticus
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    Here’s what Chatgpt/google bard have to say:

    The answer is: not necessarily. Most of the bacteria on our skin are adapted to living in wet environments, so they will not suffocate. However, some bacteria may be washed away or killed by the chlorine in the pool.

    • @[email protected]
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      Why are we relying on language models to answer questions. These things don’t really “know” anything right?

      • @[email protected]
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        No one knows anything get over yourself buddy - it gave a correct answer way more polite than I ever could so who’s gonna complain

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        Don’t they pull from online sources? So it’s basically googling with extra steps and an unpredictable middleman

        • @[email protected]
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          That would be right if they understood/knew what they were talking about. It’s more akin to really advanced autocorrect that sounds/reads like something the ai was trained on. So it sounds correct but really has 0 basis on truth other than “the model predicts a human would say X next”. Truth is rarely the goal of any of these machine learning language models afaik.

      • NightFantom
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        They don’t, but they sound as convincing, (and are probably as correct) as a random blog you’d find googling your question

      • @[email protected]
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        They don’t, and people are way too blasé about how “oh it’s actually the same as googling because it’s just taking from sources online anyway,” when in reality it does nothing to “keep” the knowledge it gets from those sites and is just stringing together words that often go together. It’s like thinking your phone’s predictive text can answer your questions, if your phone also invented quotes and sources (this has already been an issue with journalists and lawyers using ChatGPT to “research”).

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          Thank god someone who understands. I hated how towards the end reddit was so full of misinformation and people talking out of their ass with confidence. Hope Lemmy can steer away from those tendencies. It’s okay if we don’t have the answer sometimes.

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        Yeah, I’m aware. There were like 10 comments with no replies, so I thought it’d be fun to see what the Chatbot would say. I didn’t take its answer too seriously, but I knew people might be sensitive to the answer. It would have been unfair of me to not say that it was though. Now people can at least decide whether or not to discard the information by providing a “source”.