Now I’m sure that the number of users is lower than a few months ago, but I wonder how many people are just lurking, never commenting/ posting.
Pretty heavy lurker here. Maybe I need to start doing my part and raise those numbers
I sometimes have a twinge of guilt about it too. When I was younger and had more free time, I would spend time on actual submissions and not just comment. But I’m too old and tired for that shit these days.
Probably a lot, lurking is how I use both platforms. There’s the 90-9-1% rule for a reason
Honestly I love the Lemmy. I do check in every day, but I don’t often comment or post, I’ll admit it.
Then again I never really posted on Reddit either.
I tried Mastodon, I actively did, and I still lurk from time to time—logically it makes the most sense for me to use professionally—but there’s something I don’t just like about it. Probably that simply it isn’t my platform of choice—or maybe it is that I would technically need to use it professionally to replace FB and IG.
There’s so much social media fatigue. I just want to relax and goof around, doing it respectfully of course.
Yeah, I’ve been spending more time on Discord lately, but I’m sure not going back to reddit. Tbh I’ve really disconnected from spaces where I was/would be exposed to right wing extremists and hatred of me. Instagram obviously has it’s problems, but the algorithm won’t allow me–a trans lesbian stoner–to view hateful content without a fight. If I need to see some fringe beliefs and content, I’ll dive head first into the Hexbear pool!
Does it matter if Lemmy is losing users? I haven’t noticed my feeds losing active users even if it’s down across the fediverse. Besides they’ll be back the next time Reddit has another unpopular decision which should take about another 3 months
It’s weird right? I checked the active user monthly and across the lemmyverse it’s indeed plunging slowly, but the content seems to be growing despite that, significantly better than from june to august.
Though the instance i’m on is very slow.
I wonder if it’s just instances going down for a while, I know the one i am on goes down every now and then, and sometimes takes over a week to get back and running. I could see something like that causing the active users to fluctuate, especially if they wait a month before realizing their instance wasn’t deleted.
Hmm, might not be, because as long as someone commented/posted in that month it count as active user, so basically as long as the instance is up and someone is posting/commenting, it will count. I feels like it’s mostly barely active people stop showing up, so a slow decline is seen for this two months
plunging slowly
Thanks for a new oxymoron
It’s like highspeed trainwreck in slow motion.
Exactly. I would never have guessed Lemmy is losing users if every other meme wasn’t about it. Stuff still seems just as lively now as it was a couple months ago.
I think it very much matters WHY Lemmy is losing users. If it’s a fixable problem, well then we should fix it gahdamnit
Good point
I think it’s hard to maintain a critical mass in an anonymous social media/aggregator. You need enough fresh content to satisfy users, and you need enough users to provide that user driven content.
If you’re only in the popular Lemmy channels then you probably wouldn’t notice the users leaving, but the small communities are the first to go.
The main problem is just that it’s harder to get started with it than it is to just hop on another social media site and browse. It requires a bit of effort, and that’s like being second to start a race. It’s always going to be hard to catch up.
We have already matured significantly since the initial rush. There will be another rush, and we’ll be in an even better state then.
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I log in about once a month and make a comment on something just so they have to keep my account active. If my few hundred comments can cost them a penny a year, it is worth it.
Not very surprising to lose users after the big intake from June. If that were the only intake we’d ever get I would be worried but we all know that Reddit will continue to do user-hostile things. Lemmy now exists as a permanent lifeboat for those who get fed up with Reddit over time, and the next time something big happens we’ll be better prepared.
We need more “subs” like wallstreetbets, ama, LPT… I’d engage more if there were more comunities I were interested in and they regularily showed up on my feed
These will probably need to grow naturally again. We have enough techy users to carry tech-related discussions, but we probably don’t have enough users to carry niche communities yet. By gaining more users of any kind, techy or otherwise, we have better odds of gaining people with a secondary interest in those niche communities. It’ll take some time, but the Fediverse is much more permanent, and investments here will pay off theoretically forever. Even if another open platform supersedes Lemmy, it will be easy to port our community over to it.
I feel like for subs like those to pop up, the barrier to entry needs to drop really low. We lean even more technical than reddit did now, and to encourage subs like those, you kinda need a healthy population of non-technical people.
Honored to have my meme reposted. Fuxk Spez
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This is how I would feel about it. Stoked someone liked it enough.
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There’s enough content for me here, and metric FUCKTONS less toxicity; so there’s jackshit Spez could offer, to get me back.
BTW, I detest the repost bots linking directly back to that cesspool. At least provide archive links, just to fuck with Spez’s engagement numbers.
and metric FUCKTONS less toxicity;
Is that true though?
We have huge communities that are either completely unmoderated or have huge swaths of “the mods are asleep” time. And the assholes have picked up on it.
I definitely suffer more verbal abuse on Lemmy than I ever did on Reddit.I’m sticking around for other reasons, but definitely not the warm and cuddly large communities.
Oh no, meanness!
Yea I don’t know where the “reddit so toxic, Lemmy so good” stuff is coming from. Reddit was never toxic in recent years, just generic as shit with the same comments everywhere.
Lemmy has far more… Passionate users, to put it kindly.
reddit have more rude comments
From my experience reddit has gotten waaaaay more toxic over the last few years. And that toxicity was only increasing. I had fairly carefully curated my subscriptions there too, so it wasn’t like I was signed up to only shitty subs.
In my experience, every single time I ever posted anything on Reddit I would get like 1 or 2 genuine nice and or helpful replies and the test would be anger and hate. Here that does happen but it’s much rarer, at least to me, so far
Reddit was never toxic in recent years
Nah dude, you can’t be serious. It obviously varies between the communities and the bubble you created for yourself on Reddit. But even in the smaller somewhat niche subs I frequented had people acting toxic and hostile. And it became more and more in recent years. And I am definitely not talking about all the manospehre, incel and cringe subs. Those are on a whole other level of toxic and at least as bad as similar algorithmic bubbles on Twitter.
There is also toxicity on Lemmy, too. But you can just manage what you consume so much better. Never encountered Hexbear stuff outside of drama posts for example.
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Curious. May I ask, what are people verbally abusing you for? I did a quick skim over your recent comments and I found nothing really controversial, my profile is probably more controversial than yours and I have yet to receive a single grumpy message
that has been the opposite of my experience.
and i frequently bring up controversial topics here that would get some bigger communities on reddit rabid.
and when people respond negatively, they are very rarely an asshole about it.
I don’t really get verbal abuse but I feel like there are a lot more posts that I click on with the intent of commenting only to read the existing comments and deciding not to comment so I don’t wade into pile of shit.
Block those communities or ask the admins of your instance to defederate if there’s not much redeeming content from the offending instance(s).
I’ve unsubbed, but the community in question is a major source of content so I’m not about to block it. I just treat the comments like I do on YouTube.
No. Lemmy had a lull in toxicity during the fuck Spez rush, but my toxic meter reads way higher here than on reddit (although any anonymous community is going to lean toxic).
Right?
And also, I noticed that when I decide to be a dick (not proud of it, but hey what can you do), I always get away with it. On Reddit eventually a mod wakes up and takes charge.
On Lemmy sometimes the comments just vanish when mods get to them. On reddit I always would get a notice and explanation at least.
On Lemmy, the modlog is not hidden and is open to all.
I don’t know how you’re seeing it on sh.it.just.works, but on lemmy.world it’s a link in the lower right of every page, down at the very end where it says
BE: 0.18.5 Modlog Legal Instances Docs Code join-lemmy.org
To see removed comments you would sort by action. Or if it’s your own comments that are gone, you would sort by user. And then just browse.
It’s sorted by reverse date, so newest are first, but if the removal is within the last day it’ll still be in the first couple of pages.
I also am fairly certain (but don’t quote me on this) that if you want to see the removed comments for a specific community you should access the modlog on that page, to ensure that you’re seeing the modlog for the instance hosting that community and not the modlog for your home instance.
On reddit I always would get a notice and explanation at least.
No, Reddit did not always inform you when they removed your comments; far from it. In the bigger subs it’s actually rare, and anymore they just remove AND shadowban you. Removed comments used to be easy to find, but these days post-APIcalypse you need to run your Reddit user ID through the Reveddit tool to see all your removed comments there.
Thee comments sort of vanish but not quite, and the reply guys still seem to be able to find them somehow. There’s probably something wonky about how mod actions are federated.
I think consenting opinions are even less welcome here than on Reddit. Which is wild, considering Reddit already wasn’t great with it.
Maybe it’s just my feed, but I miss the diversity, lemmy is biased towards tech-nerd people
There’s a lot of nice people, that’s for sure. It’s a night and day difference.
I find Lemmy quite a bit more toxic then Reddit and that is bothering me. Was on a post where a cop was full up ambushed and murdered and every single post was praising it. And there was over a hundred posts so not just a couple of wing nuts. Then you got the tankies and a great number of immature posts. Then you got the extreme left leaning slant attitude on every subject that pretty much creates echo chambers along with mods that will shadow ban. Technically working well, administratively and quality wise the experience is pretty low.
In general my posts here get less upvotes and comments than when I used to post on Reddit, but the coversations here tend to be more relaxed, constructive and lasting for longer.
And if anyone misses the toxicity (of our city, of our ciiiiity) from Reddit, we can totally emulate that here!
Ummm… I disagree! You’re a butthole because my opinion is different. Also, I didn’t actually do any research, which makes you a double-butthole.
metric FUCKTONS less toxicity
I really wish this were true but we are absolutely sliding in the direction of more toxicity and I think it’s a large part of why users are leaving. What’s more is that there’s not nearly enough actually insightful commenting to make up for it. Reddit has absolutely lost a lot of that too but you can usually still find something on the field of bullshit. Very frequently I can read 20-30 comments here and not see a single insightful or original thought.
Isn’t it pretty much expected? There was a massive boost during the API controversy then it dropped off as the number of active users stabilised. I don’t think Lemmy will immediately replace Reddit like people want it to, just a slow gradual migration of communities. After all the migration from Digg to Reddit took years. I’ve got no doubt that Reddit will make more dumb decisions that will push more over to Lemmy.
Honestly I just want communities like /r/framework to move over and some UK subs like /r/frugaluk and /r/casualuk then I’m happy.
It’s not exactly thronging with life but it’s not dead either.
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Agreed, I’m sticking with the fediverse for my social media no matter how small it gets because corporate social media is just that incredibly toxic.
reddit helped me by banning me for the third time.
Please don’t bring that altitude to Lemmy. Be nice to other people and don’t break the rules.
In my experience the people getting banned from Reddit are the ones insulting others and breaking rules
Huh? These days you can get banned for saying just about anything. I got banned from r/justiceserved the other day for commenting something slightly pro Palestine. Fucked up thing is that I posted that comment in a completely different sub.
It’s really difficult to believe these anecdotes. Even if they are true.
What about my anecdote seems like a lie? And why the hell would I make up such a pedestrian story?
I don’t know. However, I have noticed a increase of hate and rudeness on lemmy and I don’t like it. I think I’m part of the problem.
Nothing. It wasn’t personal. Just about people making claims about bans broadly.
I’ve become desensitized to people complaining about bans. Leaving out context, having a bias, or any number of things that involves the whole story not being laid out. Including the moderation pressures the space they were banned from is under.
But yeah, nothing specific about yours. Just sentiment about people complaining about being banned in general.
Posting an opinion on a political hot potato like Israel-Palestine is just asking to get banned by someone. Because there’s religion inextricably tied up in it, it’s one of those things that short circuits rational thought in a certain sort of person.
And that should be obvious. People who say things like “fuck Israel” (fr tho, fuck the Israeli regime, but also fuck Hamas) shouldn’t be surprised if some backwards dipshit - or a corporation that relies on backwards dipshits for revenue - goes nuclear on them.
I went back to reddit to see how are things going, just one day and I can conclude that Lemmy has become superior.
