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What…what do I do now? Am I doing this right?
We’ll figure it out together. If we don’t comment and post content, I fear that we’ll never really sustain the kind of success we hope to replicate from the other place.
Sorry for the late response! Totally agree, I only lurked on the other place but there was always an endless steam of stuff to lurk through since there were so many people. With this community I’d feel more responsible to maintain the consistency by at least being active within posts people are creating so I’ve been trying to do that more. It’s a group effort and totally think we can do it if we keep this up!
Remember that one time when we were talking about that, but then we found out where the cheese was and there was less talking and more cheese eating?
Cheese you say?? What are we doing here, leggo!
Funny how attached people become to numbers in internet.
What’s the exchange rate between Lemmy and reddit karma points?
Whatever it is in our electric skull meat gives us the joy of seeing number go up. The value the number has, that’s another story.
Oh goodness, a Lemmy/Reddit currency exchange sounds like some startup NFT/crypto scheme waiting to happen.
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It’s taken me some time to feel comfortable just even commenting on stuff so I haven’t really been in any discussions. Looking forward to it though, everyone’s been great so far!
Once in a while on Reddit one of your most irrelevant comments would receive like 1000 replies, and the other times - nothing. Here it is much more evenly spread. And usually you can go into deep discussion with multiple back and forth.
I remember Reddit was the same when I joined it during Digg exodus.
I always want to comment but notifications can be so stressful that on most platforms I usually end up just lurking. Lemmys been pretty decent so far, it reminds a little of early internet messageboards where most people were more into discussing something interesting than trolling or one-uping someone for internet points or ego boosts or whatever weird reasons people are assholes on the internet. It’s probably the least toxic platform I’ve been on since the livejournal days
I’ve learned to no longer fear comment notifications thanks to Lemmy. It still has some assholes, but people tend to pile on and call them out on their bad behavior. It’s nice, I like it here.
Sorry!
Noooo! Don’t be sorry! Everyone is great!
Well I think you’re pretty neat.
Aww thanks! I’m just being a goof rambling about stuff now.
I approve of that.
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WHAT DID LEMMY DO TO MY DANCING KIRBY??
Late to respond to this but I love the Kirby dance, keep the positive vibes going!
I don’t believe you.
That’s alright, as long as you know that I believe in you!
But what if I’m scared to reply?
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That’s okay! Nobody is ever pressured to do anything they don’t feel comfortable doing! Take all the time you need or don’t even worry about it.
You get executed
Lol I still lurk, I have no idea why I don’t like to comment
I oftena don’t feel like I have anything to add to the conversation that hasn’t been said, so I just end up lurking most of the time. I do comment more than I’d usually do to help the platform, though that admittedly isn’t much.
Welcome! For me sometimes it’s just easier to scroll and move on, engaging takes more effort. Beyond that is the dread of worrying about what people will think/say in response.
I agree! And thanks for the welcome!
Not a problem, that’s what I’m here for! Be sure to give someone else a welcome whenever you have the chance! Keep the good vibes going around and encouraging people to stay active here.
and even worse, sometimes they even reply days later!
Sorry, replying a day later! There’s been much more going on with this post than I expected!
don’t worry about it. I understand
You all good, I got you fam! 😅
cheers!
Welcome welcome!
you replied too quickly! You’ve ruined it now.
No one could have predicted this!
I shouted to the void, expecting nothing, but the unmistakable sound of a FartyShartBlast echoed in reply.
Lurkers using third party apps were in many ways worse impacted by the API changes than those actively participating. The high cost of API access is only worth as much value as the service is to you, and if lurking that’s going to be lower and less likely to be worthwhile in the few third party apps switching to the subscription model.
I was a lurker on the first-party reddit app for the 99.9% of the time I was on there. The ads had just gotten out of hand with not being able to block an ad to get a different ad, I was so tired of getting “He Gets Us” trash so I switched over to Apollo. A week later they announced the API changes. I work in software dev so it’s just frustrating seeing this happen to all of the people out there trying to support their hard work.
Yep, I used Relay Pro previously but seeing the cost breakdowns the dev posted for the new subscription was disheartening. The dev’s portion of the subscription fee is near zero if you use near the limit of you subscription’s monthly API requests. So at that point even subscribing isn’t really supporting the dev as much as supporting the company that forced these changes upon us. So I chose to not take part.
Lemmy definitely isn’t perfect, especially for smaller communities. But it’s definitely workable and something I’m happy to contribute to.
Yeah Reddit really made the cost just impossible for any slightly active app unable to continue without any form of meaningful profit. I would have loved to support whatever Third Party app but yeah wouldn’t have been enough to keep them afloat.
For Lemmy not being perfect, it feels like it’s just more of a number of users issue vs an actual technical problem. Sure fediverse stuff can be complicated, but after signing up and searching communities you can pretty much do some normal Reddit feeling stuff IMO. I’m trying to revive the Twitch Lemmy community if anyone wants to help with that (I have no clue what to do)!
Edit: also adding that I didn’t think about moderation or tools that Lemmy may or may not have in place since I’ve never been a mod for any of that. So maybe a technical problem somewhere.
I lurked on the reddit app for a year or more before I started contributing. One of the first things I learned about ‘internet forums’, is that you lurk first, until you get a feel for the community. I began contributing more because the 3rd party app I started using had me more engaged; which meant that reddit gained more content
But Reddit made the API changes for 3rd party apps unsustainable, to push people toward their own ad revenue. They assume that they’re too important to fail, and that the loss of users/content was worth the squeeze of those who didn’t know how to leave. A standard cost-risk scenario. It’s a short-term goal to try and carve out a piece of the centralized internet that the big corps envision. A move toward trying to win at monopoly
The “forum” is a relationship between “user contribution” and the host’s ‘personal time, money, effort’… a personal cost-risk for anyone that hosts. Is it worth my time? Do I enjoy what I’m hosting?
When the goal becomes so obviously “increase host revenue”, without increasing user experience; you create an imbalance.
We all lurk online until we find something we wanna talk about. Reddit was trying to use (is using) their influence to increase profit for themselves, and (the way in which they chose to do so) actively decreasing user experience. The ‘host’ only gave a shit about themselves and decided that user-created content was a ‘benefit’ of being there, rather than the reason.
Lurkers are half of the equation. Lurkers often become contributors when they enjoy the community. Contributors bring more lurkers. That’s kind of how the balance works
Reddit feels they can do without the lurkers who refuse to use their app, while simultaneously increasing ad revenue. And they’ll be fine financially in the same way Facebook is… clinging to the smallest user-base that makes them the most profit, while slowly becoming irrelevant.
Because contributors will move on eventually, and so will the lurkers.
Case-in-point… my comment. I’m a lurker, until I’m not.
Even Christmas themed for the holiday season!
I usually upvote comments I agree because sometimes I’m empty-headed, cannot think about something to comment at the time.
