As I get more and more invites to private trackers, I’m finding that I find myself spending more and more time on public tracker websites.

I’ll only use private trackers if I can’t find what I’m looking for on a public tracker. Private tracker rules can get pretty onerous and I prefer to just avoid the whole scene if possible.

If I’m honest, this opinion surprises me. I didn’t expect to prefer public trackers. I always thought that private trackers were so cool and exclusive. I don’t think that way anymore.

  • @[email protected]
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    112 years ago

    I used to want to get in on some private trackers, esp cult movie related ( karagarga ) but was always put off by elitism of those rules and systems.

    Instead i opted to upload to pirate bay and like a trve pirate - no questions asked, download what you will - seeded some very obscure movies that i collected. Had to pull the plug after more than 10 yrs because i was emigrating, was a good time.

  • ѕєχυαℓ ρσℓутσρє
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    82 years ago

    I’m kinda in the same boat, except for a specific private tracker. It’s a local private tracker which has a ton of exclusive stuff in my native language, and most of the users also speak it so there’s a communal aspect to it. But otherwise, yeah. I also tend to prefer public trackers, especially for more mainstream stuff.

    • @[email protected]
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      42 years ago

      How many torrents are you usually sharing at the same time? I find it affects my Internet speed at some point, even if I limit the upload rate…

      • @[email protected]
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        12 years ago

        Not many. I prefer smaller trackers though. If you see a lot of popular torrents on larger trackers, you’ll have a bunch of concurrent active seeds.

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    I’m the occasional pirate, I don’t download more media than I watch and therefore never saw the appeal of private trackers. They have their perks, no doubt, but most of what I need can be found on the internet.

    • @[email protected]
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      22 years ago

      If you only watch English content, 100%. But if you are into foreign language stuff then private trackers do have some scene releases that aren’t available on public ones.

      • @[email protected]
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        42 years ago

        I rarely watch anything in my native languages, the content we produce is bad, so I never needed anything beyond what public trackers offer and very rarely subtitles.

  • @[email protected]
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    42 years ago

    Only in two minor private trackers and meh, I liked usenet better don’t have to worry about ratios cause I use the *arrs. The private trackers I had to rack up like 5tb of buffer before I felt comfortable having the *arrs automatically grab from em

  • athos77
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    The newbie blues for each private tracker are a definite thing, but once you get past that it’s great. It also depends on which trackers you’re on: the general trackers tend to have similar content as publics, but it’s the specialty and niche trackers where privates really shine.

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    I can’t bother joining a private tracker. Of course, they might be useful for niche content. For instance, 15 years ago there was a special tracker, where people shared races of virtually all racing series. But mainstream stuff is available on public trackers.

    There one tracker where I download lossless music. But anyone can join it, I guess you could define it as semi-private or semi-public.

  • @[email protected]
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    362 years ago

    I strongly disapprove of private trackers. I’m forced to take part in some only because the content isn’t available anywhere else. And the private trackers generally forbid re-sharing their content on public trackers, which unnecessarily gatekeeps the content and perpetuates the problem.
    If it doen’t help to make everything accessible to everybody then it’s not a valuable part of the sharing ecosystem.

    • athos77
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      92 years ago

      Do they forbid sharing the content, or do they forbid sharing the torrents? If it’s just the torrents, you can just create a public torrent with a different piece size and cross seed.

      • @[email protected]
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        12 years ago

        The torrents, because they mess up tracker stats. Just change the source parameter so the infohash changes, and remove private=1 if you’re going to post on a public tracker.

      • @[email protected]
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        62 years ago

        It’s the content, presumably in order to maintain exclusivity of the little private club. That’s part of the problem, I suppose. Private trackers aren’t just an anonymous one-stop supermarket like some public trackers, they’re often small personal hangouts, actual communities. In of itself that sounds great, but it always carries the danger of content being held hostage for what - at least in my eyes - amounts to pointless, snobby elitism.

    • neo (he/him)
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      22 years ago

      No, they forbid you sharing their TORRENTS, not their CONTENT.

    • @[email protected]
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      Most trackers are fine with you sharing their content. Heck, most trackers don’t even produce most of their content.

      But let’s suppose they do. If you wanna share it, they cannot ever trace it back to your account, unless you are dumb and use the same username or something, but even then you can argue that it wasn’t you.

  • @[email protected]
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    262 years ago

    Private is so much better, availability and speed wise. For most, as long as you build ratio with freeleech torrents, you’re fine.

    • @[email protected]
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      52 years ago

      I haven’t had to get a torrent out of freeleech except for an ebook and now I’ve got a ratio in the millions

  • @[email protected]
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    362 years ago

    How do you go about getting invited to a private tracker?

    I seed all my Linux isos on public trackers but I’m not active in any communities

    Will an owl show up someday with a letter?

    • @[email protected]
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      112 years ago

      imo get to know somebody who’s in to invite you, and you will become that somebody that ppl would want to meet.

    • @[email protected]
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      162 years ago

      Yes. you just need to visit an open invite forum/thread like on reddit or on the interwebz.
      Keyword: Open Signup

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        There are much easier trackers to get into that doesn’t require this much prereading prior.

        Private trackers (not the biggest ones though) do open signups from time to time too (ie no interview no vetting, just sign up), so look out for those.

        The most important thing is if you’re into the content offered on the site - RED’s only attractive if you’re an audiophile for instance, it doesn’t have movies/games etc. Get a name, then find out from there how to get into it. Read the rules on how not to get into leecher status almost immediately once you get in. Once you get your foot into an easier tracker that at least has some content you’re into, then make your way up if you want more.

        • neo (he/him)
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          12 years ago

          On the other hand, if you can interview for and get into RED, that’s a strong signal that you can make in in the realm of private trackers.

    • @[email protected]
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      42 years ago

      I’ve been having difficulty joining private trackers as well, but mostly I’ve just been trying to apply to a few that I think I’d like to join. Don’t quite understand why I don’t get an invite though. I maintain a perma up seedbox, and wouldve thought that was mostly what’s important for private trackers.

    • @[email protected]
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      12 years ago

      /r/trackers has a lot of info, and /r/trackersignups tells you when trackers are open for signup. Too bad they aren’t on Lemmy.

  • @[email protected]
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    22 years ago

    Private trackers aren’t dominated by people who waste my bandwidth downloading all day at maximum speed and never contributing back.

  • prole
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    My private tracker days are behind me after they shut down OiNK, and then later what.cd. Though I can’t say I don’t miss it sometimes. At its peak, What was an amazing place.

  • smoothbrain coldtakes
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    82 years ago

    I am on a few private trackers but they don’t offer anything that the public trackers don’t already have covered for my use case, outside of porn.

    I am more of a DDL pirate anyways. I have a seedbox for torrents but I tend to stick to mega links, even if there is a slight delay in getting the media. Typically what I find is that all the re-encoded high resolution h265 content comes later and is more abundant on the mega link forums than on trackers; most trackers will have h264 copies at 720/1080, but they’re often larger than the h265 high resolution re-encodes.

    • @[email protected]
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      22 years ago

      Unless the h264 files extra audio tracks, you’re downloading lower quality (bitrate) stuff.

      • smoothbrain coldtakes
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        62 years ago

        The lower bitrate is fine because I’m usually streaming off the local network, so keeping the file sizes down is pretty beneficial.