Why wait for Microsoft to catch up with what we’ve been doing for decades?
Get Plasma, a modern, fully functional, clean, privacy-respecting, non-intrusive operating system now, regardless from where you live and ditch Windows for good.
How will people download chrome?
@elxeno @kde
Chocolatey. https://community.chocolatey.org/packages/GoogleChromeFirefox, preferably. Also done via Chocolatey. Web browsers for getting a software install is so stringy.
I used that before quitting windows, but it doesn’t help since u have to copy commands from the website to install chocolatey.
I have the script in a text file on my ventoy USB for the odd time I have to even look at windows.
Microsoft Store lets you download some browsers last I checked. You can also use
wingetwhich is also preinstalled in Windows.
You complain about this and then throw an actual ad into people’s faces
s/ad/PSA/g
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Uses Arch
Complains when things break
@johnfocker
I haven’t had any bugs with either Plasma or Archlinux. What issues are you having?
@[email protected] @[email protected]General reminder: if you find bugs in Plasma, please report them!
To @[email protected] in particular: All software contains bugs, but if you could provide some examples of the ones you find most annoying, maybe we can see if they are already solved or look into their cause.
@[email protected] @[email protected] I wish all those proclamations were achievable without a boat load of tradeoffs:
@tnypxl @[email protected] @[email protected]
Like what?
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What’s missing from Plasma 5.27 that you had in KDE 3.5.10?
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@[email protected] @[email protected] I use #gnulinux and KDE, now #kdeplasma since “I don’t remember when” years, before the existence of #fedora.
I use it at work, home, to play videogames, for everything, and I can only recommend them. Step forward, respect yourself, take back your freedom and give them a chance.@[email protected] @[email protected] Using Gnome 45. Absolute adore it’s out of the box polish. But yeah, Linux > Mac >>>>>>> Windows
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In fairness it used to be a lot of trouble to set up and maintain a Linux desktop. That hasn’t been true for years but the attitude didn’t come from nowhere.
It is quite possible that my memory is from the slashdot era of comments like
“I put Linux on my laptop and then the wireless didn’t work and it took me 3 hours on the help forum . .”
“Set up” I agree, “maintain” not so much. From the mid-2000s onwards Linux tended to be more stable and easier to update than Windows, as I recall.
@Bro666 @holycrap
I install it from a USB stick. It’s not hard. Last time that took me less than 10 minutes. I’m not an IT person, never using the command line or any IT things.
Linux is not perfect, but very usable. The distro I use looks after itself. If anything does mess up, I can simply reinstall.
I’m curious when this was. A modern plasma desktop today just works. I have very, very little trouble with it. Conversely, my Windows machine (required for accessing my work VPN) is a nightmare of constant problems.
I’ll take Things That Didn’t Happen for $500, Alex
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I personally know a lot of bioinformaticians that run linux on their desktops. If you live in the terminal you don’t wanna be bothered with all Windows bs and linux comes with everything you need. Most don’t even care about the DE that much.
Also, if you live outside of Europe, you’ll be waiting very long.
That’s why my registy moved to france
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@oldredsubby @kde @kde libreoffice is a suite functionally as good as Microsoft, but is free software.
Office 2013 support ended in April. It’s EOL. No more updates.
@oldredsubby
Libreoffice may be of interest. I agree with everything else. I have to use Google Docs for school, and I have strong dislike.GIVE ME COLUMNS IN HEADERS PLEASE G00G13!!! I AM REQUIRED TO USE THEM!!!
@[email protected] @[email protected]
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If your work machine is running out of RAM it’s either utter shit or you’re doing something on it that you couldn’t on a rpi lmao
@[email protected] @[email protected]
Plasma=operating system ???!!!???🤔
@SanchoPanza @kde @[email protected] Sure it’s not a full operating system but Plasma and the KDE Frameworks and apps are a large portion of the user space, has a lot of hardware integration and is that the user interact with not with the kernel directly.
@carlschwan @[email protected] @[email protected]
So if we pull out the kernel/Linux, we can run hardware and applications with Plasma/KDE?
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@[email protected] @carlschwan @[email protected]
So it’s not an operating system, it’s a desktop. It can also run on Windows. It’s not an operating system.
@SanchoPanza @kde @[email protected] Also it’s way easier to communicate to non Linux users that Plasma is an operating system than a desktop environnement has Windows and macOS have no concept of desktop environnement.
Or do you call macOS aqua?
@carlschwan @[email protected] @[email protected]
Wouldn’t it be more accurate to describe KDE neon or another GNU/Linux distribution?
Can you define “operating system” in common, non-technical English, as to an end user?
@[email protected] @[email protected] KDE, I enjoy the software + the cute artwork, but please don’t be rude to Microsoft!! They also include Linux and they like Linux too, so you and Microsoft should be friends :3
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@01adrianrdgz @[email protected] @[email protected]
Take it from an old-timer: Microsoft would crush KDE without a second thought if it ever grew beyond what they considered acceptable in the desktop/end user market share.
All the MS ❤️ Linux is at best for servers only, not anything that can benefit the common people. KDE aims for the common people.
At worst it is PR bullshit ( ⬅️ it’s this one).
@Bro666 @[email protected] @[email protected] oh that’s bad :c I’m sorry for misunderstanding, I think both organizations should be fair to each other that’s all, thank you so much for clarifying!! c:
@01adrianrdgz @[email protected] @[email protected]
How can they ever be. one is greedy predatory megacorporation only motivated by power and money.
The other is a grassroots volunteer-powered association that explicitly advocates both in word and action improving the lot of fellow humans by giving control over technology to everybody.
They both produce software which is often functionally similar. A collision sooner or later is inevitable.
@01adrianrdgz @Bro666 @[email protected] @[email protected] right when Microsoft said “Microsoft ❤️ Linux”, they also announced something big: .NET MAUI. .NET is Microsoft’s standard library and runtime when coding C#. It had become cross-platform already, so you can now compile for Linux. Only thing missing was a good UI framework. MAUI was invented to address this. You know what happened? MAUI supports Windows, Mac, Android and iPhone. Not Linux.
Microsoft doesn’t love Linux, Microsoft loves using Linux for Azure.
@torben @01adrianrdgz @[email protected] @[email protected]
Interestingly related: when KDE devs complained to Microsoft that, due to the fact that name of their new product and similarity in functionality to KDE’s own Maui project
they were causing confusion and potentially violating KDE’s trademark, in the Microsoft forums KDE was told to sue them or f**k off.
KDE does not have much money, much less enough to embark in a costly legal battle with Microsoft with a doubtful outcome.
@Bro666 @01adrianrdgz @[email protected] @[email protected] holy, didn’t know that. That’s straight up evil.
@torben @01adrianrdgz @[email protected] @[email protected]
They also copied the slogan for KDE Plasma 5 (“Simple by default, powerful when needed”) and used a thinly veiled variation to promote Windows 11.
https://twitter.com/ClauCambra/status/1466153819713191947
They were also notified and they again ignored the notification.
Why wait for Windows to change when you can get Linux? ;)
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