Elon Musk has decried a wave of “insane” strikes focused on Tesla workshops in Sweden, as workers target the US electric car manufacturer in a strike calling for collective bargaining rights.
In what has been portrayed as the largest fight in decades to save Sweden’s union model from global labour practices, the powerful trade union IF Metall has been leading a strike across eight Tesla workplaces in Sweden for five weeks.
It is the first time workers for the US carmaker have gone on strike and on Thursday, Musk, the tech billionaire and chief executive of Tesla, made his feelings clear, writing on X, formerly Twitter: “This is insane.”
Damn I’m sorry you’re getting downvoted. Every organization is susceptible to corruption. Bottom-up or top-down.
Guys, this is what success for the working class looks like.
If the ruling class is upset, it’s because we’re doing something right.
If they’re content, it’s because they’re fucking us up the ass with no lube or reach-around.
They literally want us to roll over and just take it. And some of us are proud to. Glad that number is rapidly diminishing, though.
I would love to see the number of people upvoting this who are genuinely working class.(remember, every downvote on my reply is a middle class person who does not practice what they preach)
Middle class is the working class and I support our unions. When I worked for one I got a fair wage and just because I’m not in one currently doesn’t mean you cant support them.
The middle class is a made up idea designed to divide the working class. You either have to work for a living or you don’t, and slightly higher income and a bit of savings doesn’t make your function in society entirely different even if it allows you more comfort.
Nope. Totally different universes. Middle class people in the west like to roleplay as downtrodden but none of them have worked actual working class jobs and all enjoy at least some security of education
So you’re trying to tell me that because I have a degree, work in an office job, and have some savings, that I’m not working class? If I lost my job I’d have a few months in savings before I’d be digging into retirement funds, and even then I’d probably be completely broke within a year or two. That’s certainly a lot more comfort than someone who would miss rent next month, but ultimately I still am dependent on an employer and selling my labor, I do not have anywhere near enough money to live on dividends or interest payments. I see much more in common with someone making minimum wage than I do with the owner class who lives on rent, interest, and dividends without working.
You dont think that’s middle class? Because you have to work to not run out of money?
So do most of the upper classes. What you have the luxury of an education that allows them some freedom to work, and the comforts of knowledge work that allow them to not have to sacrifice their physical health and, most likely an income bracket that at least affords you some choice in where you live.
The point is that high levels of migration, effectively forces your own countries working classes to compete with and deal with tons of cheap foreign labour coming in, with little or no conformity to the parent culture because it hasn’t been facilitated. The middle classes traditionally laugh at the working classes and claim they are being “racist”, “stupid” and “lazy” for complaining about this arrangement, while mostly avoiding it’s effects themselves.
This voting is a result of the left wing, middle classes being unable to grasp the obvious effects of their voting record, instead pretending to each other in echo chambers that they are the real working classes and how shocking all this right wing-tilt is. Throwing the incumbent working class culture under a bus.
You either live off wealth or you live off income. If you live off income you are a worker and workers need to stand together.
This is, as I have described above, all well and good to say…
…Apart from when you repeatedly support policies that further squeeze extant working classes, then have the gall to do this vague virtue signalling of “standing together”. It’s hypocritical.
You are doing local workers in the country a disservice and the owning classes a great help to price them out of existence.
You can call it middle class if you want. But it’s also working class. Even most petite bourgeois are working class as they cannot live off capital interest.
.(remember, every downvote on my reply is a middle class person who does not practice what they preach)
Yeah no, that’s not how this works. You’re being downvoted for posting a stupid comment.
The reason they have so many downvotes is because they buy them cheap on Amazon.com
OnT: I’m Swedish and it’s good to see a proper strike, but the real thing motivating the unions on this isn’t workers rights or anything. The unions are subservient to the national labour union organisation, LO, who’ll do the shadiest shit to get more power for themselves, and don’t care about working conditions in the slightest. The only thing that’s a red line for them, is when corporations refuse to take part in the charade, by not signing a collective agreement.
You have to pay some lip-service, even if it costs you. If you do, the unions will be on your side against the workers.
Bet you thought you were super smart with that one
It’s an accurate observation, and it’s not so much that I consider myself smart, it’s more that I note most negative replies generally refuse to acknowledge the underlying issue (read: dumb).
Ah yes. I might have missed the memo where you became the Judge of who is working class or not.
(And remember if you answer my comment you admit that you have no Idea what you are talking about and are just here to troll 🥸)
Ofc every upvote is working class. There is no other reason I would upvote that comment
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i think your replying to the wrong person there buddy
No your
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Downvote for r word
Downvoted for, well, being retarded.
Frfr, hate on them high billys
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He doesn’t want the Americans to get any ideas
Yes, Musk, we know you’re insane.
Waiting for Noway and Denmark to join in and make it even more insane
I know there are Tesla Factories in Norway, but I don’t think there are any in Denmark. I’m Danish, but I could be wrong.
It’s more about the sympathy striking. If danish post clerks did not deliver letters to Tesla’s offices or like in Sweden, they won’t make number plates or unload them from the ships
Given the recent Dutch election I suspect trade unions may not be participating…
What does the Dutch election have to do with unions in Sweden, Noway and Denmark?
Elmo’s clearly the one whose insane.
Isn’t Musk just basically a venture capitalist? He’s just fucking loud about it and has to have his fucked up fingers deep in all the pies?
Skitsækk
I’ll take “Things petulant billionaires say when they don’t get their way” for $1000, Alex.
He’s so persecuted. Guys, guys, be nice to Elon. He’s just the victim here. There’s no way these strikes are a direct response to his policies and business practices.
Poor thing.
Fuck Musk
Yes, it is insane to go against unions in a country with a high degree of unionisation, where collective bargaining agreements are signed exactly because they prevent industrial unrest by ensuring the relationship between management and workers isn’t adverserial.
I mean, I say it’s insane, but let’s be honest. Musk is yet another arrogant American CEO who didn’t do his research on how things work in non-domestic markets. It’s as much stupidity and arrogance, as it is insanity. Imagine thinking you somehow know better than companies like McDonalds (who did sign agreements with unions).
Musk seems like the kind of guy who thinks about the Roman Empire entirley too much. So it’s surprising that he’s never heard of the expression ‘When in Rome, do as the Romans do.’
Musk is yet another arrogant American CEO who didn’t do his research on how things work in non-domestic markets.
Ironic, since he’s South African.
I know, I know. But American passport, American degree, America company.
Musk is yet another arrogant American CEO who didn’t do his research on how things work in non-domestic markets. It’s as much stupidity and arrogance, as it is insanity.
He doesn’t need to do his research. His obscene wealth makes him an expert on everything, you see.
“They are insane” = “I’m so far out of touch I can’t understand people who work for a living”
More like ‘I’m a sociopath who thinks petty things like empathy and basic human rights are stupid. Now get back to work, my servants are meant to be seen, not heard.’
- “people giving a shit about the other people in their country”
Oh here is some of your own medicine, how does it taste?
No, purchasing Twitter without knowing how to run it is “insane”.
Some people are more risk averse than others, some are more risk inclined
“Waaaah my precious market forces are working against me.”
They’ve seen 50-100% payrises in many cases - unions are important.
Unions that are bottom up organizations are important, Unions that are beholden to the political class are just a way to control us.
Sure, I guess.
Eating vegetables is good too - rotten vegetables are bad to eat though.
Remember how the railroad workers trid to strike & congress shut them down? Unions in America are not like Unions in Europe.
The government is the bit that is different. The union is the same. They were just threatened more effectively.
I’ll put my response aside and ask - What’s your point? Don’t unionise?
Wildcat unions > corporatist unions
I don’t have a strong opinion one way or the other (though I think your binary framing of wildcat Vs corporatist is a little dishonest), but looking at the current Tesla dispute in Sweden, the effect is massive because it’s a cohesive, multi-sector strike. Seems like that’s a pretty effective case of “us” controlling “them”, no?
Yeah that the point the Swedish unions aren’t working in a framework that’s designed to give the political establishment control over the unions. If our ability to legally protest political matters could be vetoed by the people in power what effect do you think it would have on likelihood of effecting change through protect?
Unions consisting entirely of Vampires and other human-flesh/blood consuming monsters of myth and legend are also bad.
Because of the murders and the consuming of human flesh and blood.
You forgot to mention also the mess that needs to be cleaned up.
