So basically what title says.

Im using 2FA with google authenticator for multiple accounts. What if my phone gets stolen? Can I have some kind of backup? Or maybe sync with some self hosted service?

Bonus question: what 2FA should I use instead of google?

  • elgordio
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    42 years ago

    When enrolling with the 2FA take a screenshot of the QR code, print it and add it to wherever you keep your secure documents. The QR code is your private key, just scan it again to add a new device if you lose your original.

    Obviously you need to keep the code secure!

    • Yuumi
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      32 years ago

      +1 To AuthPro, the guy behind the app is really cool

  • @[email protected]
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    52 years ago

    Aegis or Ente Auth for Android. Backup your databases in your cloud of choice. Do not use Google Authenticator.

  • Dessalines
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    42 years ago

    Keepass + Syncthing

    KeepassDX is a good android client, and it supports TOTP.

  • @[email protected]
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    112 years ago

    I use Authy and am logged in on multiple devices so if I lose my phone I can still access the 2FA on my laptop. Then log back into the new phone using the laptop.

  • @[email protected]OP
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    152 years ago

    Thank you all for tips. I got Aegis and backing it up to my selfhosted nextcloud. I will also keep google app in use for now, but I might get keypassxc or vaultwarden in the future

    Cheers

    • Trones
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      32 years ago

      As a user of Nextcloud, Aegis, and Vaultwarden, I can say it’s a great set of tools. I don’t know how I ever got by without Bitwarden/Vaultwarden.

    • 6h0st_in_the_machin3
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      This, I’ve just installed it this week and I think it’s better than Google (though I’m suspicious of the “free” service.

  • @[email protected]
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    32 years ago

    I prefer an authentication code, which I can save on a pendrive or, if not, a second email. I never use 2FA with a phone number, precisely because a phone is never secure and is also a privacy hole. It’s enough that they know my email, it’s not necessary that they also know my phone number.

  • Cotillion
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    392 years ago

    Use Aegis on android or 2FAS on iOS. And just backup your seed on hdd/usb stick. Dont upload on cloud.

    • @[email protected]
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      22 years ago

      IOS has a 2FA feature included in the key chain (passwords) settings. No need for a third party app. If you backup passwords via icloud, you are already set.

      • Cotillion
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        32 years ago

        Never upload your passwords to any cloud. Always use good foss instead of proprietary software.

  • Max_Power
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    2 years ago

    There are many forms of 2FA. I’m guessing you mean TOTPs oh you actually wrote that, my bad lol.

    I copy the keys from Aegis to KeePassXC. KeyPassXC’s database is part of my regular backup. This way I have two apps generating the same TOTPs.

    • @[email protected]
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      42 years ago

      Personally I recommend just using KeePassXC and a KeePass app (I use KeePassium on iPhone).

      You always have access to all your data that way. No company is monitoring you. A lot of apps make it very difficult to backup!

      My totp database is in the cloud for syncing but needs a key file I don’t keep in the cloud (and a password). My passwords are entirely separate.

    • @[email protected]OP
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      82 years ago

      I was afraid of using keypassxc since I dont trust myself, but using it as a backup sounds like amazing solution. Thank you

  • @[email protected]
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    52 years ago

    All you need is the TOTP secret, and it will generate OTPs. If you enter the secret in another TOTP app, you’ll also get OTPs. Here’s a Ruby lib that will render OTPs from a secret, for example: https://github.com/mdp/rotp

    For an Android TOTP tool, I like FreeOTP+. You can even use it for Steam OTPs.

  • @[email protected]
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    2 years ago

    You could use a python script with oathtool copied onto each of your devices. This is not a good suggestion.