Elon Musk, the owner of X, criticized advertisers with expletives on Wednesday at The New York Times’s DealBook Summit.
Who could have possibly seen that shit coming?
And I’m just sitting here waiting for a Bluesky invite.
I’ve got five if you want one!
Same, LOL. I want it to grow so that it’s worth spending time there though.
Sure!
Others have commented that it’s no better. But I’d still like to try it out!
Thanks!
I just realized I have no idea how to send messages in kbin so I can send you the code. I’ll pop it in here, and hopefully you’ll get it and no one will snipe it. If someone does, message me and I’ll give you another code. bsky-social-gzfm2-2azpl
It seems someone has used it up. It’ll have to be a private message
I’ve got 4 more, so BOO to the jerk who used it, but I still got you. Send me a message or give me your Mastodon info, and I’ll get one to you.
I’ll ping you on mastodon
And here’s the jerk who stole your code. All they had to do was ask and I’d have given them a code, but no, they had to be why the internet is shit.
Boring platform, imoho. Fedi integration isn’t done, tons of high profile accounts that don’t give a fuck about you, and not public.
Even if it’s boring, I want to give it a try. I already have mastodon and lemmy to keep entertained but wouldn’t mind just checking it out.
Exactly. Also it’s like escaping a planet about to be eaten by a giant space frog only to settle on another planet in the flight path of the same space frog and then being like “wow this place is great right now”
The question is: Who the f–k does still pay for ads in that cesspit? There should be a wall of shame for those idiots.
Fucking yeah right. They’re waiting for the moment everyone forgets about this and then they’re going right back.
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Shutting up is free, but running off at the mouth can be expensive.
He bought this company. Why doesn’t he sell it? He’s clearly not running it well, and he regretted buying it in the first place. Let’s start a petition to encourage Musk to let it go.
Right now it would only sell at a massive loss, and there’s no going back from that black mark. Xitter is the hill he’s going to die on. We can only hope that happens sooner than later.
As far as I was aware, he is technically over leveraged as he used telsa stock loan to buy it. He is probably facing a really tough condondrum rn.
He isn’t over leveraged, he sold stock to do it and there’s a billion dollar loan or something like that.
I don’t know if he’s on the hook for the loan or if it’s entirely twitters.
If he’s on the hook he can deal with a billion no problem.
It stokes his ego. People have to listen to him and he can promote his own voice far beyond what it’s worth.
Why do you think he regrets buying Twitter? He thinks he’s saving the world from leftist propaganda. He will never be poor. It would hurt to lose 40B, but not that much. Only his ego would feel it.
An apple crate would allow him to promote his own voice far beyond what it’s worth.
Why do you want to save xitter?
It doesn’t have to be xitty. Change the name, ban the racists, recruit new staff who have twitter on their CV. And if it fails, you’re only out the $3.50 it’s worth now.
Lmao when you put it like that, it sounds like a killer investment. I have a dollar spare to contribute!
“you’re only out the $3.50 it’s worth now.”
Goddamn locness monsta always tryna get my tree fiddy!
It once had the potential to be a net good. Widespread and rapid dissemination of information in an easily digestible format is a positive thing, in theory.
I am really curious to know what sort of ROI these companies are getting on Twitter ads. How much did they spend, say 30/60/90 days prior, and how much drop in traffic/revenue in the following 30/60/90 days. Is there any way to find this kind of data?
They aren’t seeing the money they spend on Twitter back in most cases. Twitter as an ad platform is honestly terrible. There is very little targeting and even less control over what ads and content you don’t want to be posted alongside. Facebook is terrible and evil and very no good bad but as someone who has used FB as an advertising platform, it is light-year beyond what you get out of Twitter. You can target your advertisements so specifically that you could effectively pin point a single user with the demographics settings alone. You want to advertise only to Russian grandmothers who live on farms in Michigan and play pickleball on the weekends? Facebook will get you there. On Twitter, you get next to no click through because the ads are annoying and irrelevant to the user. On Facebook, the clicks just come rolling in because users see things that they would have been interested in anyways.
The thing everyone is missing in these headlines is why advertisers left in the first place. They aren’t leaving because there are horrible people on the platform and the CEO is a gobber with more money than sense. There are horrible people running these companies anyways. Anyone’s money is good to them. No, advertisers have left because Twitter refuses to improve in any meaningful way for the users or the advertisers. Why would I spend money on Twitter when that same money will get me 10x more clickthroughs and all of them by my target demographic on Facebook?
Do you know the comparable cost of ads on these platforms? Does a Facebook ad cost 10x as much as Twitter? Just curious why advertisers would choose to use Twitter in the first place if they don’t provide much value. Maybe companies just feel compelled to keep up with the Jonses, who are all putting ads there? Or is this a more recent based on how Twitter and Facebook are developing (or not) their ad platforms?
Please buy Facebook next!!!
He doesn’t need to, just sharing his drugs with Zucc should do it.
What happened to that cage fight?
Musk wasn’t ever going to go through with it. He was hoping Zuckerberg would decline and then he’d look like the big tough guy, but it fell apart when Suck called his bluff so now he just looks (even more) foolish.
It was stupid from the start because Zuck is actually doing Jiu Jitsu and went to tournaments while Musik doesn’t seem to do much sports at all.
that’s not true!
he cannot possibly look more foolish, at this point.
Watch em
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Everything Disney owns needs to leave, including ABC and ESPN. Otherwise it’s all bullshit theater from them.
Finally. Took them long enough.
This.
There are so many media institutions and slebs who have and still are giving twitter all its content .
They are complicit in this.
And all it took was him telling them to go fuck themselves.
Not sure who’s dumber, Elon or the advertisers.
Letting Nazis stay on the platform? Not enough.
Unbanning Kanye? Not enough.
Elon personally agreeing that Jews were going to destroy white people? Not enough.
Telling them to go fuck themselves? HOW DARE HE?!?!
Who cares, less ads in the world, this is good news
They will put their ads elsewhere, somewhere where actual people might see them
So when twitter actually dies will people finally start using mastodon then? Or they too eager to use another billionaire owned social media and migrate to threads?
The crazies might stick with Truth Social 100% rather than 50/50 with Twitter
Can you think of a single open source, open community spcial platform that has gained anything more than early adopter adoption?
Mastodon has a terrible name that sounds like masturbate
There is no charismatic leader
There is no method to advertise on the platform, so the platform will suffer from no commercial incentives or correlation (e.g. find us on Twitter)
It’s confusing to the vast majority of people that you can join from more than one location
There are other platforms that do the same thing, why this one?
if you didn’t learn anything in school, Mastodon might sound stupid. You might confused it with a Mammoth but you’d be a fool to think it was anything other than awesome. Like the war elephants in LotR
I mean a mastodon is essentially a mammoth just with a bit more heavy metal mixed in.
They’re already going to threads or bluesky if they’re able. Honestly though? I don’t think we want THAT many people flooding the fediverse. There’s already a bunch of accounts here that exist only to troll or have bad takes.
Hey now! I already created my own fediverse servers in Panama and registered to a local domain provider down there and am behind 7 proxy’s at all times for my Shit Posting aS a Service or SPASS as it’s commonly called. You can’t take that away from us!
All joking aside I hope you’re wrong but it’s probably gonna go that way. Really want Mastodon to take off here
Not to mention that one of the most active instances is pretty much just open information warfare at this point. .ml has become a complete dumpster fire
Don’t leave hexbear out!
Bluesky is pretty allright but it’s poorly built lol
The second one, a number of people that I follow are going to blue sky, they learned nothing.
I’m going to invent the perfect social media system where you type a comment and then a bunch of LLMs just argue with you forever and nobody has to read anybody else’s stupid bullshit.
You forgot the most important part? You need to have notifications pop up every 15 mins so you get a dopamine hit for checking how many bots liked your devastating own of another bot in an argument.
No they won’t. The federation system like it’s currently implemented will never be mainstream.
You literally can’t know that and are just being unnecessarily cynical.
Elon: Go fuck yourself advertisers
Advertisers: Understandable, have a nice day [doubles spend on other platforms]
I don’t see how anyone expected this to end. I for one am hoping for a fatal ketamine od.
I think he’d rather be a victim than have advertisers. This smells weirdly calculated. Don’t forget the whole anti-semite thing, which stayed up for just long enough to make it look like he had to take it down from some kind of mysterious “pressure”, when we all know full well this dude dngaf. Like, none at all.
He doesn’t need advertiser money. He can keep twitter afloat with the cash in his checking account. He’ll just whine about it a lot.
None of this really bothers him. He wants loyal followers, and this is acquiring more of that. Maybe we’ll get lucky, and it’s to take them all to Mars. Cross your fingers everyone.
I think his behavior shows that he has another revenue stream that is non public and foreign.
Doge
oh boy - his followers aren’t going to mars, his kind are. and when they do…it will be because they don’t need us anymore. they’ll leave us to their steaming shit-pile of rubble the rest of us called earth
You think Mars is gonna be pretty nice, huh?
Living on mars is a shitshow. There are so many problems that even drastic wealth won’t solve.
Hes welcome to it.
I doubt the billionaires themselves would personally go move to mars, or if they did, they’d only be doing so out of foolishness without realizing what they were signing up for, and I say this as someone who views space colonization as a vitally important goal for the future. The fact is that mars is not a habitable planet like earth is, it’s missing a number of different parameters, and terraforming it isn’t something we have anywhere near the economic capacity or technology for, and would still take centuries to millenia to complete if we started.
That doesn’t mean we can’t colonize it, we don’t quite have all the technology there but I would bet we aren’t that far from developing it, and we almost certainly could make a base to at least expand into a proper colony as we developed the needed tech for self sufficiency, it just would be prohibitively expensive with our current lack of space infrastructure and manufacturing. But it does mean that any colony we build there is going to be a small bubble of artificial habitability in an inheritly deadly environment, and is going to feel that way until the colony gets very developed and expansive enough to fit things like gardens and other amenities, which would probably be a long way off, especially considering mars would be our very first space colony or at least one of the first if we decide to go for the moon first or something.
I can imagine the best analogy on earth to a very early space colony made with near future technology would be living in a submarine, in cramped, mostly artificially lit conditions with a small number of other people , surrounded by complex and expensive machinery that needs to be constantly maintained as it’s failure could rapidly lead to death. With the difference that if something goes wrong, help would take years to many months at the very best to reach you, there is no returning to “shore” without potentially years of waiting and planning, and even the gravity is different. Not the sort of life I can imagine anyone not very dedicated to the idea for one reason or another signing up for, least of all a billionaire. Living on earth would be easier even if you were living in a bunker after firing every nuclear weapon and burning every scrap of coal in the ground; at least then you’d be able to extract oxygen and water and potentially usable soil from the outside environment, and have comfortable gravity.
Well put. Mars is basically already worse than a post-apocalyptic Earth. It has no advantages that we don’t, unless someone thinks that all of Earth’s problems are the fault of some people that they can just avoid, instead of something more fundamental.
They’ll think they don’t need us anymore, until they have to sanitize their own telephones.
Maybe we’ll get lucky, and it’s to take them all to Mars.
No way, kids will be born there.
Imagine being born in a shitty space station where fucking Elon Musk decides how much water, food, and even air costs.
Especially considering he’d never go himself. You’d be an abject concept, nothing more than a number on a spreadsheet.
No one should be born into that shit.
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He can keep twitter afloat with the cash in his checking account.
Even he is not rich enough to be able to do that indefinitely.
