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good thing i use revanced 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍📌
edit: not the pin
My revanced has been out of date and non functional for a while, do you happen to recall how to update it? For some reason I’m struggling to remember the install process.
Alternatively I use Newpipe and testing Grayjay.
grayjay.app
Personally I use revanced extended from GitHub. It’s got additional options and they release an APK, so I just download and install
If you don’t want to deal with that, NewPipe is pretty good. I’ve been using it for a bit and love it.
Can be found on f-droid or from their website
get a newer YouTube apk, install and then patch. the same way you install it in the first place. you reminded me that I need to do the same
Huh. My solution (for years now) has been to kill the YouTube ap entirely and watch videos on Firefox with uBlock Origin.
I may have to see if Revanced is a better experience.
Used to do that but recently switched over to ReVanced because Firefox pip would just show the corner of the webpage sometimes, or when I go to fullscreen the app would close, so I’d have to go back on Firefox again and fullscreen twice because the first time I fullscreen it doesn’t auto-rotate
If your rooted you can use magisk and just hunt down the revanced magisk zip.
BTW if you can only find the magisk apk rename the apk to .zip and you can fastboot flash to boot.
If your rooted you can use magisk and just hunt down the revanced magisk zip.
Revanced APKs - Automated builds and distribution of ReVanced apps (unofficial):
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apks are not the best idea even from trusted sites. There’s probably a telegram link for it. I use the extended version which has some extra goodies: https://t.me/s/revanced_extended
Don’t trust some random site to download apks from, anyway, here’s my random telegram channel, use that…
That has to be trolling
i thought the pin indicated a blood offering for a second
XD
easy fix: don’t use the app on your phone.
instead use youtube via your browser with adblock (for instance safari + adblock pro) and create a shortcut on your homescreen. you can use youtube just like in the app, you won’t have any ads and you also can play videos with your screen turned off
I wouldn’t be surprised if in the near future they make it so the only way to watch Youtube on mobile is through their app. It seems like they’re getting desperate, and that seems like the logical conclusion.
I really hope not. Otherwise that would be the end for me. Same as reddit I simply would delete my account and uninstall everything related to it :)
Or just use patches or alternative YouTube clients
why installing something when you just can use your browser and get basically the same experience?
Also those apps will be useless when they mess around with the api just like reddit did.
Because the browser sucks more
A dedicated app is prettier, more functional, and (feels) faster than Firefox + Ublock or Newpipe, actually plays in the background (seamlessly, I might add… looking at you, Newpipe), and allows for more player options.
that’s maybe your opinion. I have absolute no problems with the look and feel of youtube in safari and I have all the functionality I need (play videos with screen off and on).
It is nearly identical to the app.
I hate web apps and electron for performance (incl. memory) reasons and the gestures are simply better in the app, not to mention Haptic Touch and crashing due to out of memory on iOS
On the API, that’s why I use a patched client. YouTube isn’t that aggressive with pushing new versions so you install a patched version of the old version like uYouPlusExtra
Also, even when the address bar is hidden in Safari, there’s a much smaller but still existent bar
why installing something when you just can use your browser and get basically the same experience?
Because it’s absolutely not the same experience?
Also those apps will be useless when they mess around with the api just like reddit did.
They break all the time but they always fix them. LibreTube has been broken for the past few days but they’ll fix it soon enough.
E: LibreTube is fixed temporarily by switching to HLS.
Because it’s absolutely not the same experience?
It looks pretty much like the app, I get recommendations like in the app, can watch my subscriptions like in the app, can see comments, video or fullscreen mode. Don’t know about you but for me this just feels like the app.
They break all the time but they always fix them. LibreTube has been broken for the past few days but they’ll fix it soon enough
That just sounds awful and would be a reason for me to stay far away from these apps
why installing something
I don’t watch YT a lot on my phone, but Freetube for desktop and Newpipe for android (F-Droid) support offline subscriptions, playlists, history and downloads of video or audio, background playback and you can sync both apps.
It’s okay to have alternatives. I use NewPipe, Firefox+uBlock and sometimes a YouTube ReVanced app.
these apps do not use any official API. if they used it, they would be obliged to comply with the terms of services that most likely force them to show ads or track the users or some other bullshit.
of course these unofficial viewers break from time to time, but in my experience they have been super quick releasing patches fixing it and the user experience is way way better than the official web or app. Fast UI without bloat, no ads, no algorithms, etc.
I recently migrated to NewPipe/SponsorBlock from Libretube and can concur that once you migrate your old subs from the csv google is required to send you, the experience is incredible on either platform.
This plus using invidious with rss feeds and yt-dlp/sponsorblock on desktop, and I’ve kept up with all my favorite creators without having visited the Youtube site, seen an ad, or heard a sponsor or a call to action in years.
Oh, and on Android, iif you view this article using Mull with NoScript and Ublock on, content is visible wuth no ads.
Add in a bypass paywalls filter list to ublock and yeah…internet is usable again, lol.
ok. im gonna stick with my browser solution, don’t need anything else and it works great.
i’m getting downvoted for this, lol 🤣
They don’t realise that it just looks like the app and behaves like YouTube premium with background play if you use Firefox or similar on your phone.
They probably imagine some clunky browsing experience in desktop mode.
Or they’re personally invested in all those apps that I wouldn’t trust my password to.
same for me. I wouldn’t trust my password to another unofficial app if I could use just my browser for the same experience.
It’s basically only for YouTube these days, since I got my official mailing away from Google, but still.
You can’t cast to Chromecast (non-googleTV if that matters) from Firefox mobile, also pull to refresh doesn’t work in browser, and they dont support push notifications for uploads. Revanced works great so I see no reason to switch, and it’s based off of the official YouTube APK so you’re only logging into Google play services, and you get the same native app experience you’re used to with all the addons you’d get from browser extensions built in (adblock, shorts block, sponsorblock, return dislike, background play, etc.)
I don’t think there’s anything that YT in Firefox mobile can do that revanced can’t, but revanced gives you cast support (through the official cast shim that supports CEC for pause, play, stop using the TV remote unlike doing screen mirroring of your phone where you can’t use your phone for anything else while mirroring) and other niceties like notifications and one tap to newpipe player / download video file through newpipe. It’s only a benefit to use revanced over the mobile web.
With Firefox on mobile I can use my personal uBlock filter list to deshitify the search results. That alone makes it superior to Revanced for me (still use it from time to time, but every time I search for something I feel the urge to puke).
How’s sponsor block?
Seems to be doing fine, I’m having no problems with it.
Does that have the address bar taking up space on the top of the screen? That seems like the downside. I prefer revanced, but I can understand that some people don’t want to install anything.
safaris address bar is at the bottom and also hides automatically…so no.
And on firefox you get to choose whether you want it up top or down below.
I would pay for YouTube Premium, like I had been when I was a student ($7.99/month), but I’m not a student anymore and they want $19 a month. Fuck no.
$19? I don’t see that option
Subscribing through the iOS YouTube app is $19 because of Apple’s cut. He might mean that?
Apple tacks on another 50%? That seems high.
SponsorBlock still works via Firefox.
That one was never blocked, youtube doesn’t gain money when surfshark pays a youtuber to tell you it’s a good vpn.
It also blocks normal answers well though
Using ublock on Firefox, still working
more like fuckyoutube amirite yes i am
This is just petty
ADs? What ADs?
knocking on wood so far with firefox and ublock/noscript and disabled hardware acceleration, i will get audio but no video when these ads autoplay-- instead of pressing the skip button, i just hit f5 and poof, gone. still more work than i prefer but i hate advertising as much as anything
I tried using sunshine/moonlight to stream hockey from my PC to my tv and the stream was black (until I disabled hardware acceleration). Legit blew my fucking mind. I was 30% impressed and 70% angry. Once again paying customers are the ones with the shitty UX.
I’m sure the average person doesn’t give a fuck but I am slowly but surely being driven away from any and all paid content. I can’t watch 40 dudes skate around in circles without being fucking bombarded with gambling ads from every fucking possible avenue. Because millions isn’t enough they need more millions.
I’m getting so fucking jaded.
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In Europe we can use ublock and it works just fine. No ads
Google is afraid to overstep in Europe and piss off the EU? Nice.
Google is respecting already existing laws in the EU that prevent them from collecting information about your browser without your consent
Oh yeah, the EU has shown it actually has teeth hitting even the bigger companies where it hurts: fines that aren’t just “cost of business” but actually impact their revenue.
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Lol, keep making ads longer and unskippable and watch what happens.
No ads here with adblocker + this. Anyway now I watch YT well with LightTube, or well on Desktop with MotionBox Video Browser or SMplayer. Faster, better quality and without any ad. FYT
lighttube maintainer here! thanks for your support!
I use it often, but sadly I also must use other front-ends, becuse not all YT videos are working or don’t even appears in the searches (Invidious, Piped, PokeTube, ViewTube, DTube, Tubo…). Hard work for devs like you to show the middle finger to YT, congrats.
My place of work requires Microsoft Edge or Google chrome. I’m having trouble with the ad blockers not working. Is there some combination that I should be using that would circumvent this? Or is the only option firefox? Obviously, everything I own at home and personal devices are Firefox :)
Use work browser for work and firefox for everything else?
Use an alternative fromt end in edge. Piped is a good one and there are a lot of public instances available https://github.com/TeamPiped/Piped/wiki/Instances
Edge with ublock works. Have to clear cache every once in a while.
Here is an alternative Piped link(s):
Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.
I’m open-source; check me out at GitHub.
Ad blocker still works. They really want people to stop using YouTube though, don’t they.
If you’re using an ad-blocker or skipping ads, yes, they absolutely don’t give a shit if you stop using it, because you provide zero value to them and are only consuming their resources.
Your metadata is still extremely valuable to them, and it’s not limited to just watch history and likes, but rather everything on how you engage in their services, including where your mouse cursor sits.
Parroting the angry me Yorker whose name I forgot. If you use an ad blocker your likely privacy aware and they don’t get much/any meta data from you.
Also YouTube is extremely costly to run. They are making it abundantly clear you are not valuable to them if you aren’t watching ads. You aren’t that important.
Yes and no. Metadata is more than just tracking info. I did mention watch history, likes, and mouse position, which are not things that can really be blocked. This also includes things such as how likely you are to click on a video based on thumbnail and screen position, how long you watch specific videos as well as how long your overall watch train is. They know what they’re showing you, where it is, and what you click and when; that’s enough to provide a hell of a lot if data. All in all, how you actually use the service is something that they pay very close attention to, and is still very valuable.
Is it as valuable as tracking info and advertising, definitely not. But it’s far from worthless.
How is any of this information valuable to them if I block all ads?
Because you aren’t an individual to them, you’re a statistic providing them with valuable market research on how their service is used.
“People that watch this collection of video classifications are more likely to watch videos who’s thumbnails have these characteristics. Only 1% of them use ad blocking so we can improve our ad presentation rate if we present more videos with these thumbnails to this group.”
^ mostly this. Ad revenue from watched ads isnt all of their income, not even close
If you block browser ads, they still make money off of you from mobile apps showing ads. If you use DNS-level blocking, they can still use your data to tailor ads for those around you.
Exactly
But the value per person they get from " use your data to tailor ads for those around you" a tiny amount and the amount they get from selling your eyeball space directly to paying customers is (comparatively) vast, I could easily see it being 1000x greater or even more. Youtube is going to war on adblockers for a reason.
It doesn’t work for me, on my PC I can only use freetube. YouTube doesn’t work with ublock origin.
The real problem is that barriers to entry for competition are insurmountable.
If I wanna compete, I gotta host those files somewhere. With Google, Amazon, or Microsoft. That’s basically my whole list of options.
I mean, I can opt to do it myself, but… That’s beyond David v Goliath. No way I could manage the amount of spam, CSA, DMCA, terrorism/misinformation and other shit that would seek to take the competition out.
The other reason why it’s impossible is simply that nobody would upload their genuine content to your site because it doesn’t get as much “engagement” as on YouTube. Social inertia is why YouTube can pretty much do whatever the fuck they want and people will stay.
Twitch is the same thing for livestreams. Not even Facebook using fuck-you money to literally buy exclusivity contracts with streamers could change that. People just didn’t want to watch there (although I can understand their reluctance).
IMO a lot of the attacks on independent and federated social media probably come from their corporate competitors. Who has the most to gain from flooding Lemmy with CSAM? Reddit, obviously.
Oh, the irony.
ublock works perfectly, anything else shouldnt be used
The screenshot is from an iPhone, on which uBlock isn’t an available option.
delete the stupid app and use youtube on safari with adblock. works like a charm.
They’re talking about the Android authority website
are they? I think they talk about the screenshots on that page showing the youtube app on iphone.
It’s a screenshot of the Android authority website. It was what popped up immediately when I clicked on the link.
Choose the walled garden, live in the walled garden.
useless Google, we said iOS smh
