Speaking at a campaign event in Iowa, Trump said it was important to scrutinize the vote in the battleground states likely to determine the general election. He singled out the biggest cities in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Georgia.
“So the most important part of what’s coming up is to guard the vote. And you should go into Detroit and you should go into Philadelphia and you should go into some of these places, Atlanta,” Trump said in Ankeny, a suburb of Des Moines.
Trump’s comments foreshadow what is likely to be a contentious election in November 2024. Despite the failure of dozens of lawsuits filed by Trump and his allies challenging the outcome in 2020, Trump continues to claim, without evidence, that he lost to U.S. President Joe Biden due to fraud.
‘Guard the vote’, here, seems pretty likely to mean go into liberal areas and do what it takes to prevent them from voting
And that’s why I vote by mail!
Voter intimidation if nothing else.
They can try to intimidate me but this leftist has a CPL.
Trump can suck my fucking asshole with a side of my balls, and so can his pissing-in-the-gene-pool followers, then he/they can ram my Dem vote down his/their disappointingly small peehole/s.
Wow. I just found what I was missing on Reddit. (New refugee)
Republicans will never stop trying to steal elections
They know it’s the only way they can win long-term.
4 years, no credible evidence (outside of the handful of republicans that were caught interfering with elections/ballot mail).
When lying, cheating and stealing doesn’t work resorting to violence is the natural progression. The whole world saw this play out on January 6th.
Someone else did it waaaaay earlier, and it didn’t end too well for them. The second attempt caused some chaos though. The world still brings it up from time to time, but Republican voters close their eyes to history.
Facing 91 charges, he will, without a doubt, be in jail. There will be enough confusion to split the Republican vote, or the MAGA crowd may stay home entirely. Don’t fall for the hopium he is peddling, it’s his only way to cope with losing everything he owns.
Trump will never see the inside of a jail cell. FFS, he was immune to prosecution while he was president. I’m sure somehow he’s immune to incarceration as an ex-president.
Not by election day, 0% chance. The only Federal case expected to wrap and sentence by that time is the Jan 6 case, and he’ll appeal that to federal appeals court and again to Supreme Court. Documents case doesn’t even start until August. State cases are yielding to the federal case schedules.
From your lips to God’s ear but until we get there I’m not stopping… This fucking monster will absolutely destroy the country like every business he’s ever touched.
Trump can’t possibly win
Hang on, I think I’ve heard this one before…
I have some doubts…
Don’t assume he can’t win. Vote like democracy depends on it because if he wins our country loses.
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Sounds like he’s hoping thugs will show up and scare some people into not voting in states he’d probably have lost?
To this day, Trump claims that he actually won in New York and California, among other safe blue states. Fit the record, the last time NY went red was 1984 and the last time California went red was 1988.
Trump’s convinced that there was “voter fraud” that turned those states blue, when they’ve been blue for over 30 years. He thinks that, if you removed all the “voter fraud,” he really won in every state.
My guess is that he thinks voting for a Democrat is voter fraud and wants his violent mobs to make sure no “voter fraud” takes place. If he’s elected President, I fear that we’ll still have elections, but in the way Russia holds elections. “Do you want to vote for Trump or do you want to be sent to prison?”
The Russian style election‽
Exactly. We’d still have “elections” to “prove that we’re still free,” but it would be just for show. Even if you somehow didn’t face consequences for voting against Trump, your vote would be tossed for being voter fraud. (Because all votes against Trump would be called fraudulent.)
I think its more heckling poll station workers and brown people, but yeah.
Right people make fun but this is a longer term strategy to make the poll workers quit so they can be replaced with actual fascists who will actually shred ballots of anyone who looks too Democrat.
THIS^ This is the real reason for them to flood the polling places - he who counts the votes determines the winner
I don’t really understand how the US voting system works. But if enough people in states he would have lost decide “Fuck it, not worth the risk of going out to vote”, even if that includes people who would have voted for him, would that benefit him? Reducing voter turnout across the board in states he’d have lost? Legit curious if that might be his goal or if that makes no sense.
People who vote for Trump won’t be afraid because they know the scary people are on their side.
Republicans won’t stay home out of fear. They’re the ones with the bulk of the guns anyways and seems a large body of them are itching for a manufactured reason to use them.
‘i WaS gUaRdInG tHe VoTe’
When fewer people vote, Republicans tend to win. They’ve even outright admitted this at times. This is why so many Republicans are in favor of enacting rules that limit voter participation. If the Republicans can prevent enough people from exercising their right to vote, then they might win. If too many legal voters cast their ballots, the Democrats will win - and that can’t be allowed!
It’s “sounds like he’s hoping” they will the same way he was “hoping” they would assault the Capitol. He told them to do it in thinly veiled language.
“Will no one rid me of this meddlesome democracy?”
At best. At worst, he’s advocating for violence against anyone who might vote for Biden.
So it’s allowed to harass people who want to vote, but not allowed to hand out water to people who are in line waiting to vote?
Well yes, because the wrong people are voting and getting water. (/s though it shouldn’t be needed).
I assume people got in trouble for handing out water, then?
It was a law Georgia added after Trump lost. Part of the “election integrity” things they were doing. People can literally wait hours in line at some voting locations. If they legislated that each precinct was required to regularly give out water to those in line, then it wouldn’t have been so bad. I believe it was a bad faith change.
Hey democrats, everyone to the left and right of you are arming themselves.
To everyone who called Trump a Nazi seven years ago, I owe you all an apology for dismissing your concerns as hyperbole, because I legitimately thought this guy was saying outrageous shit just to rile up the Republican crowd and clinch the Republican nomination against all odds.
After what happened with Jan 6th, it seems Donald is hell-bent on usurping democracy and bringing about the Fourth Reich, and now I’m seriously worried that America is going to sleepwalk straight into Fascism.
2021 should have been a wake-up call.
And with all you said, and the evidence we have of Trump being a fascist, people will still not vote Biden as a “symbolic act”. We may have a hellish few years coming ahead of us.
A good chunk of the accounts I see posting those comments are probably bots judging by their post histories. You’d either have to be in favor of a fascist dictatorship or willfully ignorant at this point not to vote for Biden. I don’t like Biden or most of the Democrats, but Republicans have done little to nothing for Americans that are not rich. At least with Democrats there’s a sliver of a chance with future generations that we’ll get more than a shitty two party system, with Republicans now there won’t be anything but regression and fear mongering.
I have talked to too many people on here, reddit, and in person to know there is a significant amount of people thinking and advocating for this. It is going to be 2016 Hilary again.
Here are 5 reasons why people don’t vote. None of these are “a symbolic act”.
I am referring to all the individuals who are saying they won’t vote for Biden in the next election as a protest vote. People would can or have voted for him in past, or in an election. I am not talking about disenfranchised individuals but people privileged enough to throw their vote, and countery, away.
I am making the argument America will be much worst if Republicans take helm. The chances of not being able to vote again is way too high. If people really care about Palestinian people and not virtue signaling, then they will agree that Trump or any Republican would make it worse.
I am referring to all the individuals who are saying they won’t vote for Biden in the next election as a protest vote.
I have never, ever heard anyone say this, though. Who is saying this?
Well, Biden got the “not-Trump” vote last time but he’s shat the bed with the Israel thing.
He’s still got my “not-Trump” vote. I don’t particularly like him or how well he has performed, but considering the alternative? It’s no contest for me.
If you think that whole ‘Israel thing’ is going to get better with a literal facist in charge - you’re a moron.
There are more than two choices on the ballot.
Effectively there isn’t. Voting third party does nothing but give Republicans a vote.
Do you really think a fascist like Trump will do better for the Palestinian people?
I appreciate that. Now take notice of all the people who know that trump is sleepwalking us into fascism but think that defending against it is stupid, barbaric and wrong. This place and Reddit are both full of people parroting the same thing that the Warsaw ghetto victims did.
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Fixed…“parroting” Fickt thus kryboard
For what it’s worth, I wasn’t trying to go Spelling Nazi on your ass. I was just wondering if that was some new word I’ve never heard of before.
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My guess is parroting
Fascism and dictatorships are not good for business. International trading partners won’t want anything to do with businesses located in the United States if this happens. A democracy provides a trustable and reassuring legal framework to ensure stability of contracts. International complaints are not going to be upheld under a Trump government.
This is why everyone knows you don’t do business with China.
Although if you have to have a dictator I suppose Donald Trump is probably the best dictator since he and his staff are regularly outwit by squirrels and things found growing under stones.
Fascism and dictatorships are not good for business.
I don’t think that this is really true at all.
It may pose additional risks for small businesses but that’s not so for multinationals. looking to exploit populations, resources, or markets.
This is why everyone knows you don’t do business with China.
Really? That must be news to the thousands of US companies who do business with China all the time.
All cities are democratic run.
I think it’s ‘democrat run’ that you mean.
OP said what they said
Quoth the privs, “BuT bIdEn SaMe!”
So is anyone planning to arm up and defend the voting stations against inevitable violent fascist redneck pieces of treasonous dog shit?
EDIT: I see a couple of folks are.
Then they’re fucking idiots too.
How so?
If Republicans successfully cause voter intimidation in a Democratic stronghold then those individuals are charged with a federal crime and the election continues regardless of their stupidity. If Democrats enter armed conflict with those Republicans, people fucking die for no good reason.
If Republicans successfully cause voter intimidation in a Democratic stronghold then those individuals are charged with a federal crime
Oh good, I’m sure the Republicans wouldn’t do something illegal like try to alter the outcome of an election!
and the election continues regardless
So if Republican civilians successfully cause voter intimidation, those civilians go to jail. Meanwhile the election continues regardless, and those intimidated voters would still help Republican politicians win their seats. And you say that like that’s okay.
I’m not sure if there has ever been a case in the last several decades where a voter intimidation attempt altered an election outcome, it’s kind of difficult to search for. Probably because all such attempts are inevitably ineffective under a system of laws.
Please correct me if I’m wrong. Plenty of people convicted of the crime all the time, but almost no information on what happens afterwards if the impact were significant: would it go into special election?
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If MAGAts die then it’s a really good reason
How many have you killed so far then? Don’t be coy.
Is the answer “zero” despite your “really good reason”?
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“I have the solution to fascism”
“So you’ve solved fascism then?”
“No”
and if Patriotic Democrats also die, you’ll still be happy? A decent trade in your eyes?
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“War is when overweight, middle aged men with no training, coordination or chain of command, parade around with small arms while the other side does a mass shooting”.
I think the fantasy is probably “far-right extremist kills an expendable minority, granting me a free murder with my cool guns”.
I think the fantasy is “I go to vote and some far-right extremist, intent on gunning me down for being trans, gets an argument against doing that promptly offered or constantly visible in opposition instead of simply killing me.” At the very least, people willing to put themselves “out there” as willing to fight/kill/die could then be the ones to do so rather than your method of just watching us die. “Expendable minority” you say, offering nothing for any of us.
Seriously, am I supposed to want you watching me get murdered saying “at least no centrists got hurt” over IHadTwoCows keeping me from getting murdered or, hell, shooting the person who did it? I really don’t understand how you think “instead of shooting people for doing murder or trying to stop them from it, just quietly let it happen” will help anyone. I wasn’t going to post, even, but this baffles the hell out of me especially since you’re suggesting that minorities dying is what you expect, difference being the reaction will be either “shoot the killer [before they make a mass shooting of it?]” or… what? Thoughts & prayers to the family of the deceased?
tl;dr: What are you gonna do for your “expendable minority” other than just watch them die? Seems like you’re the one happy to throw people’s lives away for nothing.
You going to shoot the ballots too? All those guns and the best you can offer is pagentry.
You haven’t stopped a fascist running. You haven’t stopped the gerrymandering. You haven’t stopped corporate lobbying. You haven’t stopped far-right mass shootings.
But apparently we’re supposed to line up to suck your dick because you’re going to puff out your chest and also fail to prevent voter intimidation?
You’re the same problem in a blue shirt.
I see you have contributed nothing.
Oh well, add me to the list of things you’re going to fix with your super cool magic guns then.
What is your solution?
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Oh, I don’t know, but probably something that doesn’t involve gunfights at polling booths.
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Snipers
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They’re about as credible as people saying they’re going to fix it with crystals and prayer.
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Here we go again…
