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With the plethora of great games getting released every month on PC, it’s very hard to feel any excitment for a game that will probably release in 2027 on PC. It doesn’t help that GTA Online left a sour taste, and even the single player story was only great for the first few hours then you just start doing heists for the fbi for the rest of the game. Considering we’re only getting a cinematic trailer after all this wait, I’m expecting already multiple delays or cyberpunk-level of disaster at launch
The shark card whale bonanza killed any excitement I had for the franchise. I know they are gonna just milk the shit out of it, and it will probably cut into the quality of the game/experience. On the plus side, smaller games like Last Train Home kick ass and are a ton of fun, and I’m looking forward to another indie game coming out next year.
Man youre so right… You know they are going console 1st… then when sales die down they will release on PC. Same rinse and repeat bull shit as before.
My question is going to be how online will this one be? If it’s two separate deals like 5 then cool… If not. I’m probably going to pass.
Yeah that’s my question. Like many others, I grew up with the single player only GTA experience. I have so many core gaming memories just fucking about in GTA 3/vice city etc. I just really hope we get a decent single player experience.
Me too. I’ll probably not buy it the first year it’s on PC… Just to see how it all shakes out
I suspect given the success of GTA online their priorities have shifted and they’ll want this on as many platforms as possible on release. They’re a GTA online company now, units sold are a secondary concern.
Take-Two already announced on their website there will be a time-exclusive release for PS5 and Xbox initially.
My guess is they’re going to treat online like a separate game release, like they did for GTA V and RDR2, and get out a PC version when that happens.
Yeah, I am really tired of the double dipping attempts of trying to sell the game twice.
Stoked for Vice City and the graphics look pretty good!
Won’t hold my breath for PC release in 2025 but one can dream.
I am guessing they’ll wait until after new consoles are released. Let people buy ps5/xXxboxXxSeriesNexXxt remastered. Then let people buy the pc version. Get 3 copies sold to each of most hardcore gamers.
Wonder how much effort they will put into preventing mods this time. I know they bought 5M so it seem they will want to shut all the unauthorized mod communities down.
Next gen consoles are years out. You’re looking at 2029 at the earliest for the next generation of consoles.
Nah, that’s too far. You’re talking like 2028 there for the next gen consoles. PC probably gonna come 6-12 months later, like almost always.
I wonder how much that will be true this time around. This is the first console Gen where I have no plans to get a console, so they can’t even entice me to double dip due to lack of a console. And if I haven’t got a console by 2024 I won’t be getting one just for one game. Exclusives don’t have the same draw anymore, since they’ve started getting ported.
Only console I’ve held onto was the Wii. Unless a Wii release is coming, I’m doomed to wait for a PC release.
One silver lining I see in delayed release is that I have less of an incentive to upgrade my GPU until then, and new GPU might be out that should hopefully handle it maxed out when I do get into it.
Looks great. I knew after the RDR2 crocs we were going to be getting much better wildlife, which is very exciting.
Graphics look awesome, promising Bonnie and Clyde story.
Seem to have expanded out their in game social media and Internet designs.
Figured it would be 2025 as historically the first trailer always comes out around a year and a half before the game is slated to.
I have a strange feeling about the story for this game. Here’s my prediction:
Lucia breaks out of prison with the help of Jason and an outside character. Lucia and Jason then go on the run turning into a Bonny and Clyde story. Doing heists and robbing people to make some cash to get away from the cops. But then, they rob the wrong person or they were forced to rob the person by the other character and are forced into the drug trade. Maybe the other character was a narco that either Lucia or Jason knew. The FIB or DEA catch wind of this and since Lucia and Jason prove to be very good criminals, they then rope them into taking down the drug trade by robbing and pulling heists.
This goes on until they both eventually find a way out or plan to pull “one last heist” that’ll free them from both the narcos and the FIB or DEA. But then, whoopsie, turns out either Lucia or Jason had some ulterior motive for tagging along with one another. While Lucia or Jason was in prison, they struck a deal with either the narcos or FIB to either escape the country or wipe their record. The catch? They had to bring the other person in, kill them, or just generally betray them.
Then the final act would be one of three options. Lucia kills Jason, Jason kills Lucia, or they both fight the narcos and FIB together Bonnie and Clyde style. Either way, bullets are gonna be flying.
The end game would be only Lucia or Jason are left alive and free of both the narcos and FIB. But, Maybe they became a crime Lord in the drug trade thanks to the other person dying or the FIB unknowingly.
Based on how Rockstar makes their stories, I predict one of the two is gonna bite the bullet by the end.
Sounds exactly like something Rockstar would write. Kinda predictable, kinda “been there, done that”.
Best part of GTA V for me was the social satire and Trevor being a total sociopath. The story isn’t anything special, the final mission hits the wrong story beats (it should have ended with the big shootout of government bureaucracy pileup), and the gameplay has some design mistakes (like business income being completely useless, and money in general being a non-issue after the first big heist). It had bugs that prevented story progress without workarounds that were never fixed. It got a lot of praise at the time for having crazy draw distances in an open world game while working on an XBox 360. That’s no longer a big deal.
I don’t think it deserved all the five-star reviews it got back then.
Conversely, if the social satire is on point and the character building is solid, then I’ll be happy.
I think the “escape from prison” part won’t happen, because we see Lucia with an ankle monitor in the promo pic. Implying she’s on parole or something. The rest sounds plausible though.
Based on how Rockstar makes their stories, I predict one of the two is gonna bite the bullet by the end.
By either
A) sacrificing themselves for the other or
B) being in a shootout with help arriving too late.Thanks, you’ve saved me $80.
Well, it’s hard to get me hyped but here I am like Cartman asking Butters to freeze him until Nintendo wii comes out…
On the side note, it seems like the story of the game is going to go around treachery again.
It’s Bonnie and Clyde. Bonnie and Clyde were crappy criminals but they were quite famous for their media presence. I think this one will have the protagonists be social media star criminals, and it will come back and bite them.
Also, one dies, iirc.I agree the foreshadowing means one will die or betray the other somehow. Will bet 100 shark bucks or whatever on it.
I like the Bonnie and Clyde angle, but after that, you lost me.
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"Rockstar’s next game, Grand Theft Auto VI, will include a playable female protagonist,” Bloomberg adds, citing sources familiar with the game.
“The woman, who is Latina, will be one of a pair of leading characters in a story influenced by the bank robbers Bonnie and Clyde, the people said.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Theft_Auto_VI?wprov=sfla1
Bonnie Elizabeth Parker (October 1, 1910 – May 23, 1934) and Clyde Chestnut (Champion) Barrow (March 24, 1909 – May 23, 1934) were American criminals who traveled the Central United States with their gang during the Great Depression. The couple was known for their bank robberies, although they preferred to rob small stores or rural funeral homes. Their exploits captured the attention of the American press and its readership during what is occasionally referred to as the “public enemy era” between 1931 and 1934. They were ambushed by police and shot to death in Bienville Parish, Louisiana. They are believed to have murdered at least nine police officers and four civilians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonnie_and_Clyde?wprov=sfla1
Now watch the trailer again after looking at this: https://www.ign.com/wikis/gta-6/Social_Media_in_GTA_6
A Bonnie and Clyde social media fueled rolling catastrophy in a place that is very much also a rolling catastrophy (FL), seems pretty on par for GTA. They often mimic classics, GTAV had some underpinnings in the Three Musketeers (think: all for one, one for all ending).
The consequences of media buzz IS the story of Bonnie and Clyde. It’s unlikely they would have been chased by police like they were without the newspapers. They were petty criminals.
I should play GTA5. Still havent touched it. I think I have it on PS3 somewhere…
If it’s not like no pixel, I’m not interested
They bought No Pixel.
What are you talking about?
No pixel
yes pixel?
https://www.engadget.com/rockstar-recruits-the-team-behind-the-biggest-gta-v-roleplay-community-163911086.html NoPixel is a FiveM server with RS funding iirc.
Ok, NOW I’m exited. That is so cool
Of all the trailers, this certainly is one.
Certainly a trailer for one the games of 2025 at that!
If this isn’t coming out until 2025, I worry about how dated the graphics already look. It’s like they took the same old models/rigs and just brought them into higher definition? Idk, but something looks off about them to me. It definitely doesn’t help the $70-80 price tags that companies are trying to justify when graphics look mostly the same as they ever have.
I think we might have hit peak realism with graphics and need to lean harder into art direction.
The fact that they got the twerk animation to be so realistic gives me confidence that they’re raising the bar and putting in the work on this game. Also every rule 34 modder is gonna take full advantage of this
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Vice City is back baby
This is a very accurate representation of the USA tbh (source: am american)
I said this for a few years now, but the modern USA has reached the insanity level of the GTA Universe
Hence America is a free-for-all wasteland. Unsafe for LGBT people, investment and migration, if ever GOP wins presidency and the Congress.
Am I the only one who no longer cares for GTA series after the Shark Code shitshow series has become ans the dropped promise of single player mods and DLC?
I’m only interested in GTA 6 for the single player game. Never played GTA 5 online for more than 30 minutes. I wish they had given us some single player DLC, but I guess Rockstar decided they could make the more money selling a handful of kids fake in game currency so why bother. It sucks for those of us that like the single player because it means we get a new game once a decade now. Used to be that Rockstar released a new GTA every couple years.
Gta online was fun at first, when it was all about fooling around in the awesome big map with friends, but after that got old, there’s nothing else to do but grind boring missions that all feel the same.
I’m still malding at how they canceled the singleplayer dlc so they could reskin and release the same content over and over on multiplayer (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻
The GTAOnline situation is super wack, but R* hasn’t stopped delivering great single player campaigns, well technically only one - RDR2 - since introducing shark cards, and it is still completely separate from RDROnline and the paid currency. I won’t pre-order GTAVI still, even once it comes to PC, but I’m going to pick it up if the reviews are halfway decent.
Yep
I guess so. I have no idea what you’re talking about. GTA V was awesome.
You’re mad that the online component of GTAV had premium currency microtransactions? Just don’t buy them. Also, there are loads of single player mods for V, don’t know what you mean.
This is a weird fucking place, bro.
Like, I thought reddit was full of bitter cynics, but only on Lemmy could I find an entire GAMING community that is angry at the next GTA game.
This place must be full of 55+ year olds or something.
No, they’re mad that any singleplayer content planned for GTA 5 (and RDR2) in the past decade was abandoned for the money printing machine that is GTA Online. There’s issues to be had with premium currencies (more specifically the stuff that usually goes along with them like lootboxes), but that’s not just a GTA thing.
Also, just because other people created content for a game through mods doesn’t mean we should give the company that made the game credit. That’s like praising a Bethesda game based on a total overhaul mod somebody made.
You can’t join into multiplayer/gta online unless you disable all mods. For a live service that needs loading Individually it still doesn’t operate as good as it should especially when they have the funds for it. They dont care for the player experience. After 4 times having to enable, test and disable mods just to play online with friends, I dropped gta V all together. Wasn’t worth co figuring 150+ mods just to have them all break when you have to disable them.
if you’re that dedicated to mods and online multi, you should probably have two systems. Of course mods aren’t gonna play nice with an online mutli.
That’s to be expected. But if you only play games because mods exist, do you even like the games you play?
I feel like a nutjob in that I just…don’t really care about GTA VI. The graphics look great, I’m sure the world will be awesome, but…after what Rockstar did to GTA V’s singleplayer and RDR2 as a whole (abandoning both in favor of printing money through Shark Cards), plus the whole “Rockstar Magic” working conditions thing from awhile ago (and I even forgot about the whole GTA V PC issue), I’m just not really excited for this.
Maybe I’m just disillusioned, but I was much more excited when the Armored Core 6 teaser dropped - a series I had never even played before.
The way I see it they make an amazing single player game and then use the multiplayer to fund the next one.
I never finished the last GTA but RDR2 was absolutely amazing and didn’t need any dlc or expansions imo.
Yeah not sure why people want the single player to last forever lol. To me it makes sense for them to focus on the Online afterwards since that’s what will stay alive after people finish the single player.
I don’t see an open world game lasting as long as a sandbox game without a ton of bloat… kinda like those super long and repetitive Ubisoft campaigns people always complain about…
I haven’t played online since like 2015, but I personally liked playing through the missions with my friends
For me it’s not about the singleplayer lasting forever, it’s about it being completely abandoned. I agree with the idea of them making a great singleplayer story and using the online to fund their next game, but it used to be that you would see other stories told in those worlds with dlc like the Ballad of Gay Tony or even the wacky fun of RDR’s Undead Nightmare. Today, that kind of stuff is relegated to online mission packs and seasonal events. They didn’t even bother to do simple stuff like put new guns introduced in the multiplayer of GTA V and RDR2 into the singleplayer. If you have no interest in the online component, you have nothing more to do with the game until they release the next one in another decade.
And this isn’t to say that I’m over here being angry about GTA Online. I have my issues with Shark Cards and I had my complaints over how RDR2 Online was handled, but it’s been many years since I cared about that and my Shark Card gripes are about the predatory nature of how mtx are used by the industry at large, not with Rockstar in particular.
I’m mostly just feeling like I missed something. I think it looks like it’s making a big step forward for graphics in games (hair physics has always been incredibly difficult to get right, for example, and the hair in this trailer looks really good) and nails a perfect vibe for a Miami based city, and I’m sure the story will be fantastic. I never finished GTA V’s story, but RDR 1 and 2 are some of my favorite game stories of all time. But I saw the trailer and went “This looks like another Rockstar game, neat” while the trailer was getting 7 million views an hour for at least the first 5 hours after its release. I just don’t understand why this has record-breaking hype surrounding it. Maybe it’s because I didn’t get pulled into GTA V’s story and got turned off of GTA Online almost immediately, but this is falling squarely into “I’ll pick it up eventually I imagine” territory, not day 1 purchase hype.
Maybe you’re not as excited because you’re not the target audience anymore.
Think of the biggest games of the last 10 years, they’ve all been community centered games. Among Us, Minecraft, Call of Duty, Fortnite, GTA Online, Fall Guys, etc.
I think we just grew up in a different era. I grew up playing on the PSX but my younger brother grew up on the PS4. I’m still playing the Tony Hawk remaster by myself and my younger brother is playing online games with like 6 people in the call.
I look forward to the story, but my younger brother looks forward to the online where he can have his own character and create his own story with his friends.
Gaming in general is moving in a community direction and I don’t blame Rockstar for moving in that direction as well.
I’m really excited for the single player. I have absolutely zero optimism for online though.
Dude that’s why I stopped playing GTA V, I finished the offline story mode and there was nothing else to do for offline.
I mean isn’t that the case with most single player story games? You can still do side missions and other activities
Yea but they could’ve added more main story DLC.
I’m not even bothering to watch the trailer because I already had decided to never buy anything from Rockstar again prior to this announcement.
Knowing Rockstar put off development of this game for as long as they did just so they could milk GTAO for every last penny makes me hesitant at best.
I have never been let down by a GTA campaign, but they know where the money is, I’m hesitant to believe they will give this one the attention it deserves after seeing the profits from GTAO. Or maybe I’m just pessimistic
I just wonder if they can actually figure out a way to make GTA online actually fun. Because It really isn’t a good game mode.
All of the online modes that are actually fun are all modded servers. The mental servers are awful you spawn in and get blown up instantly, how’s that fun?
GTAOnline has suffered from feature pile-on. I think there’s an official software development term for it, but I can’t remember it. It’s fun, aside from the astronomical grind and push for shark cards (but there are ways around that wink wink) Even considering that, getting into it as a new player is wild.
there’s an official software development term for it
Scope creep I think.
That’s probably the wrong term. Scope creep is when you’re working on a project and you keep adding new requirements to the design before you finish the existing ones. Your scope creeps further and further into the future. GTAO is a project that is available, and increasing scope hasn’t seemed to delay new content.
That said, I don’t know what the “correct” term would be either.
Maybe feature creep?
I usually think of scope creep as adding more and more work items, like this: you’re building a bridge between two buildings. During design, you find out one of the buildings has terrible foundations that should really just be replaced. Scope creep would be deciding to replace the building foundations as part of the bridge project.
It’s possible I’m not using the term correctly either though. Maybe what I’ve described instead is design creep, or something.
They’re not going to spend hundreds of millions of dollars developing a new game only to focus on GTAV online.
Counterpoint: Warzone.
RDR2 was still phenomenal after getting the GTAO money. Rockstar can still make great single-player content when they want to.
I agree. It’s just that this is the same series… Idk maybe it will kick ass, I’m just overly cynical I guess lol
My expectation is that it will be very good, but will have no single player DLC whatsoever in lieu of GTAO2 or whatever they call it. And no, I’ve never forgiven them for doing that with V. At least this time I won’t be expecting it.
What if it doesn’t need DLC? When the concept of DLC first came out, everyone complained that devs were just releasing unfinished games and that you were obligated to buy DLC to enjoy a full experience. Now people only buy games because they’re expecting DLC?
Because Rockstar did some good DLC for GTA IV and Red Dead Redemption. I agree that DLC isn’t a good thing if it’s carved out of the base game, but Rockstar had a good track record of making good DLC for already feature-complete games.
Unnecessarily cynical. The same series? Are Vice City, SA, and 4 considered bad games?
Did you even read my initial comment?
I explicitly said that I have never been let down by a GTA campaign. What I was saying was that RDR2 is a different series that plays by different rules. For that reason I don’t feel like it’s necessarily fair to use RDR2 as an example of how they will treat GTA with the respect the series deserves.
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It’s 10 fucking years. GTA 3, Vice City, and San Andreas were all less than a couple years apart. They need to reuse that strategy of working in parallel and reusing the game engine for a few sequels before moving to the next generation.
I’m confident they would’ve released more games if GTA Online wasn’t such a money printer for them. For those of us that liked the single player though and didn’t touch online, it’s been a while!
Games were way lower fidelity and quicker to make back then, bro. It’s nowhere near the same thing.
It took billions of years to make pacman and 14 years to make pacman 2. They should be able able to make GTA 6 in a week. GTA 7 should come out before Christmas.
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Yeah I played that one. Also pretty great. Hope they build another one soon. It’s already been 5 years.
The earlier GTA games where quicker to develop because the computers did not have the CPU power or RAM to support large cities, many different NPC models, detailed cars, objects or enviroments. This means levels, assests and the engines where much quicker to develop.
if you double width+height of your map, you have to fill 4x the area with meaningfull content, belivable cities, scripted events, nature, streets, shops, maybe NPS who have a daily routine to walk from one place to another.
Plus, you have to create a large amount of different(!) buildings to place around your map, because you dont want to recognize the same house, shop, park or Parking lot multiple times in the same street. On top of that is car physics, traffic simulation, cop chase behavior and now apparently NPCs interact with each other.
None of this has been done before, and getting this right and bugfree is not trivial - see cyberpunk.
GTA5’s campaign was fairly good, but it sucks they abandoned the planned additions and shoved the assets into GTAO only. I do not care to play GTAO, but I would have liked more things to do in single player. Knowing that this is likely going to have single player solely as a pipeline into GTAO though, yeah I’m sceptical too.
I think GTAO (and RDR2-O) is pretty much unplayable with all the obvious cheaters in each session. Rockstar doesnt even care if someone runs around with a K:D of > 1000:1, ruining the game for everyone else …
Yep. I hate to say this, but they should maybe but MTX into the singleplayer game. I really don’t like the idea of it, but if it’s between that and nothing, I guess it’s better than nothing. One time purchase DLC is clearly not appealing enough to them. That said, I could totally see it ruining singleplayer so maybe that’s not the best idea…
Why does it make you hesitant? GTAV isn’t GTA6.
Looks fine?
Florida simulator.
I hope this is going to be good. But I’m not going to hold my breath. Because we are talking about Take-Two and Rockstar here.
When has Rockstar themselves put out a bad game?
Grand Theft Auto: The Trilogy – The Definitive Edition was bad.
EDIT Manhunt 2 was bad. When comparing it to the first game.
i don’t really count remasters that were outsourced, that is 2k and grove street games’ sin
I was thinking the same, but then again taking a long time to put games out isn’t the same as putting out broken games. I mean rdr, rdr2, and gtav are stellar games that launched without any glaring faults iirc. Taking time is fine as long as we get a complete product.
Help a woman who needs an abortion
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Tell kids about gay people
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Eh, since that law applies to classroom instruction, they’d have to save that one for a Bully sequel.
Ahh yes the “cautious gamer that doesn’t think GTA is going to be good” archetype.
Take-Two are be pretty scummy (especially the sports game division), but Rockstar don’t miss.
Expect evolution not revolution, but we’re going back to Vice City, so count me in.
I’m just concerned that they’re going to go all in on GTA online 2.
They either need to make sure they put a huge amount of effort into the single player or they need to completely rework online play.
They didn’t for Red Dead 2. I don’t see why they would for this.
I’ve haven’t touched the multiplayer player content in any of their games, and never felt short changed by what I got.
