It all of a sudden became TERRIBLE and now I can’t find anything? When did this happen? Why did this happen?
My guess would be that it’s increasingly using AI/ML and natural language over search terms to sort the results, which results in much shittier results. Power users are used to specifying the search term precisely and it no longer does anything about it.
It tries way too hard to also return news articles and blog posts instead of forum posts and other types of user-generated content. If it can find a plain “well written” english blog it’ll return that over a 10 year old forum post that’s super detailed but full of grammar mistakes. It’s gone full corporate and strongly favors corporate interests and pushes commercial offerings more.
It used that ads were clearly labeled ads but it wouldn’t surprise me now regular results gets quietly prioritized based on some sort of financial incentives.
I think you’re right (and I recall Google engineers have been open about using AI in past press releases.)
I suspect that Google is on the bleeding edge of what happens when a bunch of AIs try to convince other AIs to pick their schlop over the next schlop over. Very few of the involved parties are still focused on helping people (it’s hard to get an AI to focus on anything) and it’s starting to show.
Google is really useless for some things unless you know how to use search operators
Seconded; something funky today.
Had multiple searches today that either produced no results (just the little guy fishing), or just links to junk sites that contain massive word lists and nothing else. Bing came through; usually it is best for video and image searches, but at least it got me going today.
I hate that bing (and dependent sites like DDG) will not let you exclude results; if they would address that, they would be a more serious search competitor imo; days like today would make them compelling.Are you accidentally using bing?
Or google without an adblocker when you are used to google with an adblocker?
Bing actually isn’t bad these days.
Is it better than google?
Imo they’re about equal
ComSci here. Lately Google for tech searches, and especially low level shit, gives a few relevant results on top with the bottom of the first page always being scam sites that my corp firewall blocks. Always sites with just random letters
Yeah… Cant provide an answer why probably ads. I had very good search terms and it should be the first hit but it just resulted in crap. Currently using duckduckgo and i got the first link that i was searching for correctly. Not looking back anymore.
It depends on which bit you’re talking about.
ChatGPT and SEO optimisation ruined the quality of results so sites who have no right to be near the top spot for particular terms get there by cramming as many pages full of tangentially related rubbish as they can.
The SERPs (search engine result pages, where you see the list of links) have been taken over by Google guessing at what you might be looking for, local results, shopping results, instant answers (which is usually aren’t relevant) and of course lots and lots of ads, leaving little to no room for the actual links you want.
If you are sick of it I would suggest trying DuckDuckGo, the results are a whole lot nicer :)
DuckDuckGo has some of the same problems too. It is mainly just a proxy for Bing search results. But they are less full of ads and crappy personalisation indeed. Also search.brave.com is worth a try.
Don’t use anything by brave
You really have to be careful. Sometimes browser add-ons can really fuck with your search results. A YouTube enhancer extension was a culprit at one point. If you’re on Android, it’s possible for apps to do this too. Stuff is constantly being patched and blacklisted, but it might not be purely the search engine’s fault. I don’t main Google anymore, but I still occasionally do use it when other engines let me down, and Google has been different enough.
I’m not saying it’s worse or not worse, but that, if it’s REALLY bad, it’s also possible it’s something else.
Edit (a week later): no, Google has actually gotten weirdly worse recently. Confirmed on multiple PCs. Not sure if it’s just Google, the entire spread of the internet, or just search engines getting SEOd.
Yeah, I think ublock origin is the only extension I have on my browser - I prefer not to let some random extensions have access to everything I do on my web browser. Who knows what data they’re logging
You are not alone, google search results quality has declined.
Enshittification
This
Is it the way? Omg 😱
Google has really gone down hill to the point I can no longer find obscure searches anymore. Even youtube searches sorting by new has gone downhill to the point that most of the results are youtube shorts with half of them having multiple hashtags in the title.
I’ve found myself using DDG and Bing (fucking BING!) more than google lately.
Google going downhill led to me using DuckDuckGo 100% of the time. Before it was just too difficult to search for programming-related errors and stuff on anything but Google but that’s no longer true.
I REALLY wish there was a way to exclude shorts from YouTube results entirely.
Search operators for YouTube might help with that
It’s been progressively getting worse over the past few years as they’ve continued to “optimize” their search engine for more ad placement and sponsored content. I’d say these past few months, it’s become borderline unusable for finding actual information.
This is the thing. It really has become unusable. Trying to find obscure information is insane no matter the keywords. It’s always the same results and, ugh, YouTube videos. You can’t find parts for older stuff easily, simple answers are gone.
Amazon is similar. Change the keywords all you like you still will get the same ‘amazon choice’ products and recommended alternatives for whatever you searched for lead to the same list. But i have to agree it really got worse unreasonably fast last few months.
Someone posted it on here, it works soooo much better and no ad bullshit
Thanks for this. Trying it out now.
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Oh wow i just now saw this reply (thanks boost!) Seems very cool, many thanks!
Are you sure it’s true? I tried googling it and didn’t find anything…
Ribbit
I’ve mostly been using DuckDuckGo for the last few years so I haven’t noticed. I mostly only use Google for Google Translate & YouTube.
deepl is even better than gtranslate, IMHO
I still mainly use deepl, but Google translate has made some impressive progress in the past few years and I’d say they’re pretty even now.