• @[email protected]
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    52 years ago

    Hmm. The McDonalds in my town had a small fire in the kitchen in 2020. It has been surrounded by “Reopening soon” signs since then. Color me sceptical.

  • Methylchloroisothiazolinone
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    Mcdonalds seems dead set on becoming some weird roadside vending machine. Last time I went they are making dine in areas uncomfortable (concrete benches and stools), built a wall between employees and customers, no play place, self pay kiosk. Felt like I was being trained like a lab rat to serve myself and encouraged not to hang around. Feels like an extreme model of having zero employees and training your customers to be your employee.

    • @[email protected]
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      That is a return to their original business model that led to them becoming a global institution.

      Their dining areas were famously uncomfortable, witht he focus on being easy to clean and maintain and discourage people from lingering. The color scheme of red and yellow is purposefully garish, and combine with the lighting to make you want to get your food and get out.

      There used to be a set of slanted warming shelves connecting the kitchen in the back to the area behind the front counter. You’d walk in during peak times and see rows of sandwiches already assembled and wrapped. You’d order your food and the cashier would reach around and gather the food that had been prepared 15-30 minutes ago. If you wanted a burger without onions or mustard or whatever you’d have to stand awkwardly and wait. The drive-thru used to be quick, maybe a couple minutes total.

      I haven’t been to one in a few years so I’m not sure how it’s changed recently, but starting in the 2000’s they changed their business model to try to compete with places like Subway, Panera, Starbucks, Chipotle, etc. They introduced more greys and browns into their colorways. They expanded the menus with a ton more choice: novelty limited-time sandwiches, “healthy” options like salads and fruits, specialty coffees. They moved to making things to-order instead of having things pre-made. Wait times and prices both increased.

      Every other “fast food” place seems to have followed them. The closest replacement I’ve seen is the expansion of gas station/convenience store food. Places like GetGo and Sheetz near me usually don’t have drive-thru’s, but I can quickly walk in and grab a pre-made sandwich for a few bucks and walk out.

      What you are describing almost sounds to me like a modern automat.

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        I do see a role for automats. Door dash, grub hub or people who ordered ahead… Certain frequently bought items…

        All in temp controlled lockers.

    • nicetriangle
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      I think the expectations of consumers for a dine in experience is just a lot higher these days than McDonalds is interested or equipped to compete with and they’re also in the process of pivoting towards a post-automation future.

      This to me sounds like a company that is realigning their strategy to fit the market segment they think they have the best chance of capitalizing on, which is apparently faceless late stage capitalism burgers.

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        12 years ago

        I’d honestly be more worried if my late stage capitalism burgers HAD faces.

    • @[email protected]
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      162 years ago

      Everything you describe appeals to me. The less I have to directly interact with their employees, the better.

      Being able to take a few moments to ensure my order is complete and accurate, without delaying every other customer behind me, radically improves the customer experience.

      Eliminating the two most error-prone steps (communicating between customer and staff, and entering the order into the register) greatly improves order accuracy.

      Taco Bell is doing the same thing, but hasn’t inflated their prices nearly as much as McDonalds. Burger King and Wendy’s are lagging behind.

    • @[email protected]
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      42 years ago

      Couldn’t disagree more, depending on the location.

      Pretty much ever McDonald’s outside of major cities is a social hub for locals. People will go there everyday and spend hours inside talking with each other.

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        that used to be hardee’s here… covid took away the wall of mugs the old-timers used every morning.

  • WhoisJohnGalt
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    432 years ago

    McDonalds is primarily a Real Estate company. Their food service is secondary.

    • @[email protected]
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      162 years ago

      Yet their biggest abuse is on the environment. It would be so much easier to add environment pollution tax on burgers than building five hundred million wind energy generators.

      • @[email protected]
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        102 years ago

        A start could be reducing the crazy subsidies cattle farming gets. We could reduce carbon emissions and have money to fund green projects.

  • @[email protected]
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    662 years ago

    McDonald’s used to be a decent fast food choice in France. But nowadays it’s gotten super expensive and the portions are tiny, like the big Mac almost fits the palm of my hand. I’d rather go to any other fast food chain or small kebab joint when I need to scratch that itch before I’d go to McDonald’s again.

    • @[email protected]
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      22 years ago

      I wonder what they did with the Royal’ with Cheese… Technically they could shrink that too since it doesn’t have 1/4 pounder in the name.

      • ares35
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        even the ‘quarter-pounder’ has shrunk over the years. there’s more fat ground-in now than there used to be, but same ‘pre cooked’ weight.

    • @[email protected]
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      252 years ago

      That’s how it’s been in the US for a long time. It’s just simply not worth the money for what you get.

      • @[email protected]
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        122 years ago

        I got down voted last time I mentioned this, but the app usually has pretty good deals if you just need a quick bite. Two spicy chickens for $3 is my go-to.

        • @[email protected]
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          122 years ago

          Don’t you have to waive your right to sue McDonalds if you use their app or was that just an internet rumor? I don’t eat there or ise the app so don’t know but thought I read something like that.

          • @[email protected]
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            22 years ago

            Idk I’m just a guy that eats chicken sandwiches every now and then LOL. If that were true I highly doubt it would hold up in court, but I’m not a lawyer.

            • @[email protected]
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              12 years ago

              Lol yeah it’s not legal it’s just there to dissuade people from taking legal actions who don’t know any better.

          • @[email protected]
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            62 years ago

            I just looked it up you’re right lol. I imagine it’s intended for pricing compliance and maybe data security, those are common lawsuits. If you get food poisoning and they find food safety violations… or if the golden arches falls on your car, or really any other negligence they’re still on the hook.

            Compliance is a really big deal in corporations and pricing is a big one. Again not a lawyer tho.

    • hh93
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      42 years ago

      Not to forget that they are extremely shitty when it comes to vegetarian options especially compared to Burger King

    • nicetriangle
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      Yeah I hadn’t had their food in a while and we ended up going to one in Lisbon earlier this year. I was really surprised at how small the servings had gotten for what they’re charging. I don’t really understand why anybody would go there at this point. There’s a lot of decent food out there for less money.

        • @[email protected]
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          12 years ago

          For me it’s the nostalgia hooks they have in me. Every once in a blue moon, I get a craving for McNuggets that nothing else can satisfy. Probably because they’re barely chicken nuggets, and are more of their own thing.

        • @[email protected]
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          22 years ago

          Ahh yes the old motto “always lie to the customer!” Shrink your product so you can later return to the original and sell for more money, or the good ol Amazon: raise your price for a short time so you can have a “sale” that was the original price…

  • @[email protected]
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    42 years ago

    I always love the McDonald’s hate. It’s amazing how much seething it brings along with it.

    I sneak out probably once a month for McDonald’s, it’s my junk food treat and I’ll never give up my occasions.

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        52 years ago

        The company is called Taylor. Not sure if they’re public. IFixIt has a video dissecting why the machines are always broken.

  • Rikj000
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    102 years ago

    Sugar, Salt, Fat, the perfect ingredients,
    to cultivate obese addicts with failing kidneys.

    But you’re “loving it” right?
    Same as I, why would that be?.. :)

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      Pretty much every restaurant loads their food up with sugar or salt because that’s what makes it taste good.

      We’ve become addicted to salt so much that we don’t even realize we’re getting too much of it. You won’t make it as a chef if you don’t make your food unhealthy. Putting in a healthy amount of salt will always result in your food tasting ‘bland.’

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      They sell salty hamburgers spurlock. Real murder shit right there 🙄.

      Self control and responsibility is dead. I guess we have to look towards our ceos to ensure only lettuce wrapped ground turkey is available! Daddy tell me what to eat!

      Your list is the cornerstone of making good food. Nothing left but acids for taste answer that

  • qyron
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    422 years ago

    Where?

    This chain is like an infestation of poison mushrooms. Where is it not present yet that could merit opening another of choke-n-puke?

    • @[email protected]
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      12 years ago

      I used to live a 10 hour drive from the closest McDonald’s. I think there was a lot of demand for the city that was in between.

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      I get what you mean, but that is probably a bad analogy. Let me explain.

      Just because a mushroom is poisonous doesn’t mean its mycelium living underground isn’t essential for all the plants and trees in the area. Depending on the species, mycelium can carry warning signals between different plants, boost the health of the plant, increase fruiting yields and even fend off other damaging fungi and bacteria. There is even a type that will make little hyphae lassos to trap and consume nematodes that can destroy some root systems.

      McDonald’s does none of those things for humans, even in an off-handed analogy kind of way, unfortunately. It anything, a poisonous outcrop of mushrooms gives back more to its local ecosystem than a Big Mac ever has.

      Fungi are so misunderstood… ;)

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        McD and poison mushrooms do the same to humans: poison them. End of analogy.

        I have an idea on how important of a role fungi play in nature and it’s one of those life forms I really enjoy finding in wild.

    • @[email protected]
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      222 years ago

      It plans to open 900 new stores in the U.S. and 1,900 in some of its bigger international markets like Canada, Germany, the United Kingdom and Australia. The company said it plans another 7,000 stores in other international markets; more than half of those would be in China.

    • Jeena
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      Here in Korea there are some but not very many. I guess you could squish quite many in here. The question is only who will go there to buy something? I haven’t been to McDonalds for years. It’s good at night when nothing else is open but if I can choose then I’ll probable choose something else.

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        Especially in Korea. I’ve read about that cuisine and I risk it has some really good food.

  • @[email protected]
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    152 years ago

    No clue how people are so fond of McDonalds, there are literally so many other fast food choices that are superior in every way

      • @[email protected]
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        This is just categorically untrue. People go to McDonalds because they want to, even if they may not want to admit it.

        A McDonalds franchise is, by far, one of the most expensive franchises to own and operate. They have strict rules on where you are allowed to open one and startup costs are in the millions, most are owned by investment groups and people who own multiple franchises.

        If you have a McDonald’s, you have a market. So you most certainly also have a Subway, Pizza Hut, Wendy’s, etc. Some of those franchises literally just plant themselves wherever a McDonalds is placed because it’s cheaper to do that then it is to do the market research yourself.

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          You are very US centric. In my town there are one McD, one BK and one SubWay waay outside the downtown area. That is for a Norwegian town that has roughly 50k ppl in its “Metropolitan” area. I take the train home and besides some Sushi places (decent) and Kebab joints (awefull) I can choose BK or McD if I just walk in of the street toward the station

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            Obviously this won’t be 100% in every area in the world, but even in your own example you listed another cheaper franchise right nearby, therefore it is not the only option.

            I haven’t been everywhere but I live in Canada and I’ve been to the US, UK and Southeast Asia and in all of those places this is true. There are towns that will literally just have a Subway or similar cheap franchise, but places with a McDonalds will almost always have another option.