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Tesla Cybertruck’s stiff structure, sharp design raise safety concerns - experts::The angular design of Tesla’s Cybertruck has safety experts concerned that the electric pickup truck’s stiff stainless-steel exoskeleton could hurt pedestrians and cyclists.
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That front trunk just looks like a guillotine
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Cake or Death?
I’ll have the chicken then.
“Let them fly private.”
He’s going the distance
and he’s going for speed
He ate it all
So it’s an EV Delorian.
This is never going to be available in Europe. Sad because I like it. Can’t afford it in 100yrs but would like to see others drive it.
I don’t jump the hype and hate it just because “Elon made that”. It is a cool shape, different than other cars. Doug DeMuro would have his hands full with all the quircks&features.
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A lot of people. Bunch of my coworkers were hyped about the release.
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I’ll bet there are going to be some great deals for these on the used market when whatever cool factor there is collapses.
Good deals on used cars is a thing of the past I’m afraid
Fellow narcissists.
Shit on me if you must but I actually like the look and features of the car. However I likely wouldn’t buy a Tesla in general
You’d like the “features” of any car, it’s why they’re features. It’s the tradeoffs that actually matter.
And yeah, it looked cool at first, but that’s really just because of its uniqueness. From an actual design perspective, it just looks…stupid.
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It could be a good vehicle, if it was built by someone else.
The past few years have revealed that while Tesla have the tech, they lack the basic precision manufacturing that other automakers mastered decades ago.
Possibly unpopular opinion but I think the Cybertruck is about as dumb-looking as most any other truck on the market. 4 big doors, more cabin than bed, trucks in general are all goofy looking parking lot crawlers nowadays
I think the main market was supposed to be like a utility vehicle. It’s got some nice specs for actual work purposes for an electric vehicle, while saving money by not making a pretty body.
I don’t know why some people like the look and want it for recreational use.
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The angular design of Tesla’s Cybertruck has safety experts concerned that the electric pickup truck’s stiff stainless-steel exoskeleton could hurt pedestrians and cyclists.
If anyone actually cared about this they’d be going after Ford and Chevy, not a vehicle that isn’t even available to the public yet.
why not both?
Although being fair, the other day just out of curiosity I was taking a look at electric cars in my country and almost every single one of them was a needlessly huge SUV.
There were a few exceptions, but I was not expecting that maybe 25 out of 30 cars were in the bigger size.
Bigger size = bigger profit margin. We’d be a lot further towards carbon neutral if cars hadn’t grown to ridiculous average sizes while engine efficiency improved a lot.
why not both?
Because cyber trucks aren’t killing people. Trucks made by Ford and Chevy are. Why put effort into solving a problem that doesn’t exist yet when there is a real problem right now, and if you solve that one it will also solve the cyber-truck problem.
Because cyber trucks aren’t killing people.
They haven’t even been on sale for two weeks and those sales have been limited. Maybe give it the well over a century that Ford and Chevy have had before making that claim.
You’re able to do both, you have a massive country with a massive government with a lot of funding.
99% of the time it’s not one or the other, and your argument literally works the same if they handle the dystopian car first.
A bit of a straw man argument, but also based. They should go after all production vehicles and require that they meet pedestrian safety standards or that ownership requires additional licensing/training.
“Hey, I know you’re disappointed by the lack of Autopilot™, but look on the bright side, every Cybertruck comes standard with our patented Child Buster™ technology to cast those little shits into the depths hell where they belong!”
And perfect for running over protesters. And with the weight of this thing, there’s little likelihood of those pansies surviving. They don’t deserve life if they’re going to use it making your drive last 5 minutes longer.
/s
we’ve combined the Orphan Crushing Machine and the Torment Nexus
This sounds like something BeastChild would say in a video.
To be fair, Tesla Autopilot probably already did that.
People are going to be pissed when they find out cyclists lose in collisions against any vehicle, not just prototype electric trucks.
You’re going to be pissed when the first loan payment comes due and you still feel empty
Bro I’m the cyclist in this thought experiment
That doesn’t mean some vehicles aren’t much worse than others.
It actually does. Cyclists are generally fucked, as in fully fucked, when colliding with any vehicle. I don’t see any reason to separate the categories here.
Yeah, I don’t think even a cybertruck can stand up against a fully-loaded semi.
Hell, motorcyclists lose, even with 1000lbs of bike.
Something called physics can’t be bypassed. Worrying about making cars less dangerous for pedestrians is a foolish endeavor at this point. I really don’t see it making that much difference when you look at the mass differential.
Deforming plastic bumpers aren’t going to make much difference when they just compress with so little pressure that hard parts of the car are still impacting human bodies.
This is a uniquely American problem, and therefore something we’re doing is wrong. Why just accept that our streets are so dangerous? Don’t you want safer streets?
Good argument for separate infrastructure.
And using it.
There are certain streets in my city that are multi-lane, paired one-ways, they’re major routes with a LOT of traffic.
There are parallel streets that make the same connections, that only see local traffic, people who live on those blocks.
Where do the cyclists like to ride, with the cars doing 25 at most, or with the cars on the 45 mph street where people speed up to 60 at times?
Cyclists (as a group) love to shout about the rules of the road saying they can be there, but so many disregard those same rules when it’s convenient.
Running red lights/stop signs (because it takes effort to start again! Wait, I thought one of the arguments was it’s good exercise?), riding against traffic, (bad in the city, but I think is the better approach for rural areas), etc.
You (the royal “you”) wanna ride a bike? Good for you. I’ll do my best to make the road safe for you, but it’s a two-way street. Work with me, not against me.
And I’ve been a motorcyclist for 30+ years now, dealing with some similar issues (especially that we’re not visible to drivers). People in cars will make mistakes, it’s up to me to ensure they see me, that they know what my intentions are. Most drivers really have no idea what to expect out of a two-wheeler, with or without an engine. That needs to be acknowledged and considered with every interaction.
Edit: aww I offended a bunch of cyclists who do these things, but don’t have the balls to comment because they know this is all true.
Rasied this being an issue on the Marces Brown video, the finishing on those panels is pretty backyard with exposed edges of pretty sharp steel. I also think the steel is going to look like shit after a couple of years when the coatings fade off. Also bulletproof panels don’t necessarily lead to safe crumple zones which doesn’t bode well for them in Europe at least. A lot of design choices for people who are scared of driving, which usually makes them really bad for use in a public space.
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That is what you get when you slack on pedestrian safety. This a regulations problem, not a Tesla problem.
However, under the federal government’s current safety rating system, known as the New Car Assessment Program (NCAP), almost every vehicle gets a four- or five-star rating. That’s because the system only takes into account the safety of those within cars, not all the people walking, pushing strollers, biking, or taking transit outside them.
Brings back some “carmageddon” nostalgia though.
Hmm, that is a game I haven’t played in two decades.
Yeah, this cybertruck would fit right into the game.
They even got that low-polygon aesthetic.
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This thing is huge, it does 0-60 in under 3 seconds, has sharp angles, and its styling does not seem to target the sensible end of the market… It’s like an industrial strength pedestrian destroyer.
It’s actually a pussy-magnet.
Even the pasty-facediest of incels will have no problems getting laid showing up in one of these bad boys.
It’s just how the world works 🤷
Help, I bought a Cybertruck and now every cat in town is chasing me!
I hear it has preprogrammed wait times for replying to text messages from females based on the redpill algorithm.
I would like to hear from the women of Lemmy- how many of you would have sex with a man just because they drove a Cybertruck?
Have you actually had any form of friendship or relationship with a women in the past couple of years?
Comon… sarcasm is not always obvious… but his comment was sarcasm. It has to be. I choose to believe it is.
And as a bonus it actually looks like something out of Carmageddon.
I shudder to think what one of those cybertrucks would do if it tried to plow through a crowd of protesters.
Probably 0-60 in 4 seconds
Probably about the same thing as any other vehicle.
Jesus are we really gonna pretend this is the first vehicle that would obliterate a pedestrian in a collision?
Safety concerns…who would have thought? This cannot be an actual recent concern. Everybody could see the safety issues from the day it was unveiled…
Good thing safety regulation is the reason why we hopefully will not see this monstrosity on EU roads.
It’s not a recent concern, it’s been talked about since the initial reveal
I’m just so amused by your inclusion of ‘hopefully’ in that sentence… hard to know what to expect when the whole world is a bit
who the fuck cares
Safety experts as well as pedestrians and cyclists. It’s right there in black and white.
i already hate cars, and especially unnecessary civilian trucks. i do not fucking care about elon musk drama. it’s so fucking boring. i don’t need to laugh at the cyber truck again. it’s destroyed this website.
this article doesn’t belong in a fucking technology sub.
Seriously, having been hit by a fairly rounded Impreza at low speed that still did significant damage, I’m shivering at the thought of what these edges would do to soft tissue and bone in the same conditions. The pressure at the contact points would be dramatically higher.
Yeah cars should definitely not be colliding with people. The results are horrible. Welcome to civilization with cars, where our overall strategy for minimizing the death cars to do pedestrians is based on collision avoidance rather than making car-pedestrian collisions safe.
Making car-pedestrian collisions safe is a ridiculous idea failed to doom from the start. Cars are big and hard, people are small and squishy.
I think the key is to prevent cars and people from coexisting as much as possible.
Making car-pedestrian collisions safe is a ridiculous idea failed to doom from the start. Cars are big and hard, people are small and squishy.
My quite large awd minivan that can tow 3500 lbs and fit a massive amount in the back has a hood that slopes down quickly to about a waist height. God forbid if I hit someone, they would clearly be scooped up onto the hood, which might sound bad but literally every single new pickup (with basically the same specs as my minivan on paper except with less capable AWD because of no weight in the back and a bed that doesn’t come with a cover like mine did) is basically designed to try to hit a pedestrian in the shoulders and head and smash them down under the vehicle. This isn’t a hypothetical safety thing, pedestrian fatalities are raising at an alarming rate because it has become cool for insecure men to drive around pickups that are optimized to kill a pedestrian in an accidental crash. Also, the rear cab seats of these pickups are extremely dangerous in a crash (there isnt any space to cushion collision) which is dark given that I always see losers driving around their whole family in these monstrosities treating it like a family vehicle.
I agree though that kicking cars out of places that pedestrians are in and valuing pedestrian use of public ways over car use especially in urban areas is ultimately the best solution.
Sorry about that.
Holy shit you were the driver?
Well, I drive an Impreza and I did hit a pedestrian at low speed several years ago, so probably.
It’s a small lemmy.world.
Again, this whole thing smacks of some entitled person (hmmm, who though?) who knows nothing, making design decisions that are stupid and self indulgent.
I call it “The Homer”, just like the episode where Homer designed a car. You know the result…
No I don’t
Homer designed his own car, ignoring any advice from the designers and engineers who worked at the company, and ends up bankrupting said company cause no one likes the car.
I call it, the “HomerTruck!”
“Raises”?
That was a concern the day it was unveiled years ago
Yeah but actual production models only became available Dec 1st, and production is still low until sometime next year without any additional delays.
Don’t they have to safety test these things before they sell them?
They do… But just for the passengers inside.
Although it’s not rocket science to predict the obvious design issue here.
Well, we allow anyone with the cash to drive giant ass trucks that have bumpers at sedan head height… So it’s not like this is terribly surprising
That seems like an odd reply to my comment about how the safety and other concerns are as much a concern now as they were when the cybertruck was announced.
I guess to answer your question, USA vehicles go through nhtsa.gov certification process that requires a bare minimum safety features and then assesses a star rating for safety, both of which are specific to the class of vehicle in question. However, Early and Late release models do not appear to require NCAP ratings and sometimes trigger recalls such as the 2016 TESLA MODEL X P100D SUV AWD Later Release.
It did make the news when Cybertruck Crash Testing videos were made public 5 days ago, but no rating has been made available online yet.
I updated my reply, sorry for seeming standoffish.
Didn’t expect them to act this stupid. They have no damn solution for this mammoth of a tin box, exerting pressures way above what is needed to obliterate any living thing at speed.
The solution is to only sell them in the USA which has no pedestrian safety standards
Yup, that’s vehicles for ya
