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You have no idea how insane i went trying to figure out why clarkson farm was playing at extremely low quality, pixelated 320p on my PC before I realized Amazon just hated Linux.
320p? I’ve seen 540p iirc, which was already terrible. Interestingly, a Windows VM made higher resolutions available, but I didn’t want to watch a (tearing) slide show either.
At least I don’t have to come up with a reason to justify piracy.
Its been some time since i last had prime.
but got the free trial today doing some christmas orders.
Now it just flat out refuses to let me watch video. Demands I enable Widevine content decryption module in my browser, which I don’t have… and isnt available on firefox (at least on linux) according to the mozilla add-on page/search.
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had to enable drm in the preferences for the option to even show up, aaaaand with it enabled and widevine installed, its still a blurry low resolution mess. Fucking amazin.
Yes, sadly, DRM is necessary to use many streaming services, be it Spotify, Crunchyroll, or Netflix.
At least Widevine works on Linux. Without Widevine copyright holders would probably demand some Windows-/macOS-only DRM that’d be probably even worse.
Edit: Just remembering Flash gives me shudders.
Widevine doesnt seem to work very well if i’m watching 4 pixels instead of 4k, lol.
Well, my point was more about Spotify and other sites which only require basic DRM.
But yeah, I also consider the quality inacceptable. It’s why I bought storage for my server to start sailing the high seas with automatic downloads.
I swear to god I’m about to start doing it to.
Im a fucking customer, that is paying, or has paid, and still wont let me watch the shit… So whats the point of giving my money?
had a lot of people offer to give me charts to the new seas, as mine are 20 years old at this point, and i am so dangerously close to finally accepting an offer.
It’s not just Amazon, but any streaming platform that uses Widevine.
bflix dot tee oh
fmovies dot tea oooh
join the open seas my friend
Ah, pirate streaming, the only way to stream HD fan- AI upscaled Star Trek: Deep Space Nine. A project that a fan did because Paramount (Disney?) said that it wouldn’t be profitable to do, so they were going to let it languish in SD forever.
Just like Netflix!
Fuck em all i ain’t paying shit
This restriction is meant to protect high definition content from being ripped by pirates. Open systems don’t offer the same DRM guarantees as the locked ones.
Which is bullshit because DRM doesn’t effectively prevent ripping (source: you can find pirated hd content). So it’s literally only harmful to the customer.
I’ll give you a quick demo of how DRM is literally useless at protecting content:
- You need:
- Services often use widevine as DRM provider, so using the Nvidia machine visit this test page and make sure DRM is working
- Normally the DRM api ensure that the decrypted content of that video can never in any form get out of a special GPU buffer, not even the browser can access it
- enable sunshine on the machine
- Connect from the second machine to the using moonlight and notice that the video is not being shared. DRM seems to be working correctly.
- Now disable sunshine and enable Nvidia gamestream from GeForce experience, and set it up to share the whole desktop
- connect from the second machine to the first using moonlight
- now the video is being shared to the second machine, and DRM is circumvented. There is literally nothing preventing you from recording the screen on the second machine
Now, this is a terrible way of ripping content, it causes at least one reencoding, which reduces quality (a lot of people won’t even notice it), but it is a stupidly simple working demo of DRM circumvention.
Btw, that procedure is not the result of some study, reverse engineering, or any clever stuff. I was literally playing a game in streaming and I went “hmm, I wonder what would happen if I streamed widevine” and it just worked.
it is a stupidly simple working demo of DRM circumvention
A much more simpler method is to just use Streamfab. No need for nVidia, a second PC etc.
What do you know, I have that kind of setup. I kinda want to try that now. I ain’t gonna subscribe to Netflix just to test this for myself tho.
Ironically means that everything I watch on my Linux machine will definitely be pirated.
locked ones don’t provide DRM guarantees either. it takes a script kiddie five minutes to break DRM whenever some new scheme comes out.
It’s probably contractual obligations from shitty media companies.
quite probably. Ironically it does nothing helpful because pirates are gonna pirate.
If anything, it’s does the opposite by driving would-be legitimate buyers (well… Subscribers) into piracy.
You won’t provide it to me even if I pay you, because you don’t like the system I use? Fine, I’ll keep my money and pirate it instead.
the Dutch East India Company were the bad guys. Just saying.
…ok?
TF does that have to do with modern media piracy?
If the monopoly is the bad guys… the pirates are the good guys, right?
This is why even though I pay for prime, I pirate everything. It’s amusing to pay for a service that your experience is better pirating than using the service you pay for.
dude uses linux but pays for prime you cant make this shit up
I pay for prime for the shipping advantages. I barely ever watch it, no way could I justify having it for just the streaming services.
Primes shipping advantages are 100% hit or miss. They no longer honor delivery estimates. In tgier efforts to save a buck, they implement private shipping companies that send your shit half way around the world and back, when your item started 100 miles away. I’d say about ~50% of my prime orders take 8-10 days when they advertise 2 days. I bitch, and they keep moving the goalpost, changing thier promises. Over and over. And, prices now are on par with so many other sellers. There is very little reason to continue using Amazon.
Prime primarly has nothing to do with software. It’s a delivery service.
Dude doesn’t know what Amazon Prime is for, you can’t make this shit up
Are you unaware of the shipping with prime? I didn’t buy it for the video lol.
Just pirate better shipping times 5 head
Same. It’s nice to pick your own media player and use upscaling as much as you want to
What happens if you change the useragent? It stops working at all?
No, changing the user agent doesn’t change anything. I believe it’s the Widevine DRM level or rather the lack of support for L1. The whole point of DRM is to make it not easily circumventable, so the best solution is piracy.
So the “problem” is hardcoded where? changing the useragent will make the server give both Linux and Windows the same exact data I think, am I wrong? So it’s the browsers fault? Or there’s something I’m missing?
The DRM component you need to be able to decrypt the video is not available, even if you get exactly the same data streamed to your Linux PC, that a Windows/Mac PC would receive.
Okay got it, thanks. Isn’t there a way to run the windows’ DRM component under wine?
The user agent tells the web server what browser requests the website. It’s up to the server whether they ignore the user agent.
DRM protected content isn’t just a http connection away, it’s encrypted content loaded after the initial website is displayed. The video is then decrypted by a proprietary DRM library called Widevine.
Widevine has multiple security levels and Linux only supports the most basic one. This results in low bitrate/resolution with no way around it. The reason Linux only support L3 is that copyright holders don’t think Linux graphics stack gives them the same DRM guarantees that Windows/macOS/Android gives them.
Got it, thanks! Wouldn’t be possible to run widevine under wine?
Unlikely, because Widevine works quite well at protecting it’s content. If the solution was as simple as using wine it’d be great though.
We need some mad genius to crack Widevine and make a plugin that works for Linux.
It’s going to have to be restricted-source, but hey, honestly we need to break Google’s stranglehold anyways.
What bother when you can get all the shows from torrents?
Truly the only right answer
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YouTube purchases also don’t work beyond 480p on any desktop except for Mac Safari. These companies are fucking insane.
And if you purchased movies from Sony instead, they will just remove them all from your account.
I do keep seeing the argument that you can vote with your wallet but I mentioned this in another thread I think a week ago.
I think voting with your wallet doesn’t quite work here because you’re not going to a competitor, you’re simply opting out. What happens is then they don’t see your platform of choice as the issue. All secretly gathered data points like your platform of choice often present a survivorship bias in the usage data.
With that being said, piracy has always been “… An issue of service not price” (GabeN) and I wholly support piracy as the alternative. I just don’t think these services like Amazon are going to ever get the memo.
I do have a weird Tin Foil hat feeling that they’re losing something Linux platform that’s more than support or DRM. What if it’s harder to monitor your usage on Linux platforms and they think that they can encourage you to leave the platform by forcing you to see lower quality so they can get those usage metrics back? (Again, tinfoil hat hypothesis)
Maybe if you fake your user agent it would think you’re on Windows.
Did you mark this as NSFW because Amazon fucks those running Linux?
so in my country (I’m European, specifically Romanian) we have this streaming service called SkyShowtime. guess what? its DRM is so bad that SkyShowtime just won’t work beyond being on the website. it won’t play anything to you.
that is because either Peacock or Paramount+ are also DRM-blocked, because all there is to it is Peacock and Paramount+ with the Commonwealth Sky and Showtime brands that NBCUniversal and Paramount are respectively owning, and they combined it together and sell it to countries with lesser purchasing power parity, such as Romania.
Yep, it’s pretty bad, that’s why me and my friends share all the subscriptions and use all the deals, it’s not worth it if I’m paying more than 5RON for any service like this. When Netflix started to do their bullshit, we cancelled, not fucking worth it. We still all also use stremio.
Time to sail the high seas!
Peacock won’t even work on Linux and it drives me crazy. I sail frequently, but my friends and I do a podcast where we watch old pro wrestling. WWE moved all their content over to Peacock. A lot of that old Mid South or Mid Atlantic wrestling isn’t on the high seas, so… Somebody has to screen share through my log in when we record. It’s just so dumb like just let me watch what I pay for.
Just change your user agent?
Nope. Tried multiple spoofs on multiple browsers and nada… just shitty Peacock lol
Not that you should have to, but wouldn’t running Windows on a virtual machine thwart Peacock’s restrictions? Again, not that I think that that should justify Peacock’s restrictive stance.
I thought about that but if I need it that bad I can put it on my phone and put some earbuds in BUT what’s crazy is I even tried mirroring my screen from my phone to my desktop via USB and it STILL blocked the video like it didn’t throw up the error it normally does, but it def was a turd about it
What’s shit is that like it’ll play trailers and I can browse and get the little pre-watch thing like when you hover over a show going so I know it’s just a setting they can flip on their end but they won’t. I sent them a trouble ticket and they just give some generic “go look at our supported devices list” response
Like OG I make solid money and I’ll pay for the content you guys have bc you’re not busting balls like other streaming services but like work with me and let me watch it on whatever device I want or having to give out my log in info to other people so I can watch MY account on THEIR device
Running in a Windows VM should work, at least it did for me with Amazon. The issue was my pc and graphics virtualization software isn’t fast enough for an acceptable experience. Slide shows with terrible frame pacing isn’t fun.
