At this rate, I can see a billionaire stepping on a lego and saying legos need to be regulated.
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Don’t waste tax money on this. If some rich idiots want to unalive themselves in a can to see some garbage at the bottom of the ocean - let them.
I was this close to agreeing with you and then I remembered there was a kid on that sub, and now I’m thinking this was a really shitty thing to say.
Technically an adult. But yeah, he’s the one victim I feel sorry for.
A kid and a researcher who made regular trips to document the flora growing on the site.
We’ve already wasted money on them.
Who do you think paid the coast guards and navies of the multiple nationals that conducted the deep sea search for Titan?
Hint: Tax payers.
I don’t know about the others, but Coast Guard gets paid regardless. These events justify their budget. It wasn’t an “extra cost” to the taxpayers.
…please leave ‘unalive’ on places like tik tok.
It’s too late man it’s now apart of the modern language. Insert Abe Simpson “I used to be hip…” meme.
It really only is, for the most part, on places like tik tok and youtube where the word ‘dead’ is banned. And it occasionally slips out into normal society but…just…no.
I think the slippage is going to increase. It’s a full word not like “LOL”, people will say it IRL.
I’ve never heard someone say it irl yet.
Until then
I teach middle school. During the school year, I heard it two dozen times daily.
It’s getting tiresome already.
like 8 years ago i worked with this girl who would fucking say hashtag. like someone would say something really crazy and she would be like “hashtag really?”
I…really hated her…
Contrary to popular belief the word “dead” is not banned on tiktok or youtube. Do people really think that the censor can be tricked by a synonym a 5 yeard old could come up with?
Real argument is to protect people with trauma as seeing “dead” can be a trigger but even then it doesn’t make much sense as it’s the same word - just spelled differently. The only way this would work if we come up with new word for “death” every few months before our brains re-asocciate the synonyms but that’s absurdly impractical and impossible to implement. I do think it’s an interesting language phenomena tho and is fun to explore.
Now that I look yeah…your right. I fell for interwebs bullshit. But completely agree on you about the constant changing of words. And going going back to the original though…if you are so triggered by the word dead/death…im sorry but you just need to learn to live with that. Society cant abandon such incredibly basic words because of people like that.
I don’t know, but to me “suicide” and “kill” seem like the words that would’ve been banned. Not “dead”.
I was using it satirically and I honestly think that’s where this word is going. I find it fascinating though - it’s absolutely meaningless but it also sounds safe and incredibly artificial. It’s full of these paradoxical features that make this word really fun. I’d invest meme points into it tbh.
I’ll be honest, I don’t think that’s a sensible approach. Yes, it’s billionaires offing themselves, sure. But regulations are quite important, in particular in sensible and critical areas like this.
If they also protect some billionaires that’s an unfortunate side effect, but overall these regulations would be very good to have. The rise of venture capitalist attitude outside of IT is only going to get worse, so the sooner we can establish rules against that the better.
Could you expand on why? Surely there must be more important areas to spend resource to regulate than protecting some rich people hobbie that only few people per year partake in. It would cost millions of dollars to regulate something like this effectively. The only argument I can think off is that it could cost less to regulate than to “save and rescue” these idiots but save and rescue is not a pro bono service for the most part either. They or their insurance will have to cover the costs of this.
Human life has value, even when they’re people you don’t like.
dunno man the whole thing is a bit absurd. At the same time literally over 400 people drowned trying to escape poverty. It’s really hard to care for this particular human value when there’s this massive injustice. Reality is we don’t have infinite resources and attention - we should direct it more efficiently than this.
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The thing is that it’s not a binary on/off issue it’s resource distribution issue. Why should we collectively spend absurd amount of resources to protect this extremely small entertainment niche when there are literally people dying from preventable issues. I’m not an utalitarian but it’s really hard not to agree with their philosophy when you see events like this: rich people die in some absurd hobby and we spend more protecting them than hundreds of poor people literally drowning at the same time trying to escape unlivable poverty conditions. Like, I’m sorry man, but maybe you should redirect your anger there.
Noooo, don’t do it pleeeease.
I am calling for less. No billionaire should be stopped from going on an unregulated submarine.
Let them enjoy the deregulated world they created.
Can we just have one law about them not taking their kids, maybe?
Deal
I for one welcome more of these “catastrophic failures” if it means more billionaires will lose their lives. Worthless sociopathic assholes
Nah. Let the rich morons off themselves.
I am calling for even fewer regulations. Negative regulations.
Negative regulations
force billionaires on board sketchy-ass subs and send them a few miles down?
I like it.
Musk and Zuck next please.
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Interesting. What has ja rule say to this?
The only disaster was that they didn’t manage to squeeze a few more billionaires on board.
Stick to making crappy movies you out of touch dinosaur.
He’s extremely knowledgeable about submersibles. He helped design and build the Deepsea Challenger, which he then took to the bottom of Challenger Deep, the deepest known location on the planet. He’s one of two people to have done that.
He has a ton more experience on top of that. I’ll leave it up to you to go learn about it if you can be bothered to do so.
And he’s still an out of touch dinosaur. He can take his sub and shove it.
This is true. HOWEVER, he’s only opening his mouth to push for legislation on this because he doesn’t want any more of his asshole billionaire friends to die. This isn’t out of altruism for the average Joe… because let’s face it, how many folks do you know who can afford a trip like that?
James Cameron is a leading expert in undersea exploration. Touch grass you out of touch redditor
ROFL. Love James Cameron much? Stop idolizing celebrities ffs. I think you’re the one that needs to touch grass instead of caring about what some boomer thinks.
I don’t know, I’m an aircraft structural engineer and, based upon what technical commentary I did hear him make, it kinda sounds to me like he knows what he’s talking about.
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I like Alien more than Aliens.
Sooo brave
No need for regulations, just set a price floor please. Only billionaires allowed.
I wonder about the people who would work on the subs, who are basically not millionaires. Would regulation, insurance and such help them have some protection and compensation?
This. Let them eat shit.
Have the government sell permits for $1M.
To be clear, it wasn’t a “tourist sub”… so maybe the first regulation should be defining exactly what that is,
The CEO was very careful to skirt applicable regulatory laws. He even called his passengers “crew members”. In the aviation world, I have some experience harmonizing multiple regulatory authorities. Because of “international waters”, there will need to be some agreement and harmonizing of regulations. There’s already SOLAS so, I think it can be done.
The regulations come from the countries that the company is founded in. OceanGate is (was) as US based company.
A “crew member” would be some kind of employee.
Employees don’t pay a company a quarter of a million dollars to do “work” for eight hours. You don’t pay to work, you get payed to work.
Just because you call someone a crew member doesn’t necessarily mean that would hold up in a court of law.
I think if they were alive to sue and be sued… He’d be fucked.
Technically I believe they were classified as employees that “donated” to the company. Nice workaround Stockton! Let’s see how that holds up in court with the obvious gross negligence.
Absolutely.
The issue is that the regulations that do exist allow them to skirt it by not offering a hard, and broad, definitions of ‘tourist subs’.
