Timothy Murray lost his father earlier this year and had been asking his principal for counseling when she called in the police

  • db0
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    222 years ago

    Americans have truly lost their minds…

  • @[email protected]
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    312 years ago

    One mother said that, after a meeting with Garza about her 5-year-old in which her own mom questioned the school’s special education plan for the boy, Garza called Child Protective Services on her.

    Garza’s mom questioned it? Or the 5yr old’s? Or the mother of the 5yr old’s? Who is “her” referencing?

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      22 years ago

      5-year-old, mom, and grandma showed up to the meeting with the principal. Grandma questioned the school’s special education plan. Principal called CPS on mom.

      • @[email protected]
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        You may want to reconsider your own reading comprehension.

        One mother said that, after a meeting… in which her own mom questioned the school’s… [plans], Garza called Child Protective Services on her.

        Who is her and her own mom?

        It is not specified at all.

        You also completely failed to address the question at hand. OP asked who the “her” in “her own mom” is referring to. Your modified sentence doesn’t even acknowledge the “her” in question.

  • @[email protected]
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    592 years ago

    Well thats just an entire chain of people that are so completely divorced from reality, common sense, and compassion, that humanity would only benefit from them being skimmed out of the gene pool.

  • @[email protected]
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    1472 years ago

    I’ve tried to understand what the charges are, as far as I could tell it seems it’s somehow related to an anti terrorist law and caused by the kid pulling someone’s hair and gesturing to cut paper with scissors, which was interpreted as gesturing to cut a finger.

    The article seems to try very hard to obfuscate the actual reason (I’m guessing for legal reasons?)

    In any case, this seems insane, seems like excessive overreaction from everyone involved.

    • AmberPrince
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      552 years ago

      I thought the same thing. Here’s the archived Texas Observer article on it, which is what this article’s source seems to be.

      Apparently the principal heard from another student that this kid was “making threats” against her. Sounds pretty thin to me.

    • @[email protected]
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      822 years ago

      The whole thing is weird.

      His ordeal began five days later. In the late morning of September 8, Timothy was pulled out of music class and ushered into a room where he found Garza, Assistant Principal Michelle Saucedo, a district police officer, and a counselor sent from the district’s central administrative office. He was told another student had just reported that Timothy said he was planning to kill the principal. Rincon said she was called and rushed to the school but was not allowed to be in the room while Timothy was being questioned.

      “When the police officer had his body cam off, they were yelling and telling me, ‘We’re gonna go to the full extent. We’re gonna put you in a lockbox,’” Timothy said. “Then, when the body cam was finally on, they were so nice.”

      Timothy told me he had explained to the school and district officials that the accusations were not true, that the only conversation he had that morning was with two other boys about wearing his sweater over his uniform.

      Rincon has received only a school conduct referral form, on which administrators wrote that “Timothy told another student that his hair was messy because he was up all night to come up with a plan to kill Mrs. Garza (principal).” Underneath, Timothy wrote: “No I was not up all night I just forgot [to comb my hair].”

      On the bottom of the form, administrators had written: “OSS [out-of-school suspension] 3 days 9/11-9/13.”

      https://www.texasobserver.org/why-was-this-11-year-old-honor-roll-student-put-in-solitary/

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        Not the point of this article/topic but why is law enforcement required to wear body cameras but they can turn them off whenever they want!? That’s asking for abuse! Unless they’re using the restroom (and even then I’d lean towards an independent reviewer deleting footage, if anyone). These are public servants on-the-clock! If there’s no enforcement, there’s no consequences to purposely deactivating the taxpayer-funded camera they’re supposed to be operating under…

      • @[email protected]
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        412 years ago

        So it started with a kid who made up a really tall tale, told it to an adult in the form of completely unsubstantiated hearsay, which the admins for some mysterious reason chose to belief. Those admins must be either stupid or malicious.

        I’m leaning towards maliciousness, jealousy and spite as the most likely reasons for why this is happening.

    • @[email protected]
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      172 years ago

      Unless the kid brained someone with a tee ball trophy, I categorize this penalty in the “extreme” category.

    • originalucifer
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      852 years ago

      its because there is no actual reason for it. they are still trying to document one

      texas, you fuckin cowards.

  • @[email protected]
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    992 years ago

    What kind of incompetent principal reacts to trouble making elementary schoolers by calling the cops on them?

    • @[email protected]
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      332 years ago

      Conservative ones. Conservatives should never be in a position of authority over others, especially children!

    • 520
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      1022 years ago

      This ain’t incompetence, this is a power trip. She also called CPS on a mother for questioning her special education needs program

    • Deceptichum
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      472 years ago

      The same that calls CPS on parents

      Other parents have also complained to the outlet about the principal. One mother said that, after a meeting with Garza about her 5-year-old in which her own mom questioned the school’s special education plan for the boy, Garza called Child Protective Services on her.

    • @[email protected]
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      1252 years ago

      This article:

      https://www.texasobserver.org/why-was-this-11-year-old-honor-roll-student-put-in-solitary/

      Should shed some light on the subject. Particularly:

      Garza comes from a Brownsville education legacy. Her mother, Rachel Medina Ayala, was one of Brownsville Independent School District’s first female superintendents. Garza’s two sisters are also principals in the district.

      So, in answer to your question:

      What kind of incompetent principal reacts to trouble making elementary schoolers by calling the cops on them?

      A nepotism hire with a vindictive streak.

      • prole
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        202 years ago

        Jesus Christ, I didn’t even know dynastic public school administrators was a thing…

  • @[email protected]
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    1472 years ago

    Obviously the cops and prosecutors are real shitheads here, but I think some blame goes to a piece of shit principal who woukd call the police on an 11 year old.

    • @[email protected]
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      582 years ago

      She also apparently called CPS on a different mother for questioning her special education program.

    • @[email protected]
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      812 years ago

      The DA and Principal are likely related, same last name. I’d bet this isn’t the only incident between these two, with the principal setting up the targets and the DA knocking them down.

    • @[email protected]
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      52 years ago

      And also the stupid law that allows charges against children. Our system of kids under 14 not being “strafmündig” (criminally responsible) is often criticized and has other issues sometimes but at least it prevents shit like this

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      182 years ago

      None of them should have any kind of power over others. If we ever manage to fix this system despite the dipshits that are trying to break it further, whether system comes next should have a specific focus on preventing people like this from getting power or keeping it if they manage to hide themselves until after they’ve gained power.

  • Deceptichum
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    112 years ago

    This principle sounds like such utter shit. The world would be much better off without her.

  • @[email protected]
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    132 years ago

    if you actually want to protect kids, this is the shit you form a posse to go protect right? for all the people worried about children this is where you would show up at the court and/or prison and demand their release?

    • @[email protected]
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      82 years ago

      Dude this is in Uvalde. They already let a couple of fat cops prevent them from saving their kids.

      • lad
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        42 years ago

        More like a whole parallel multiverse with how each state has its own set of quirks

  • Whiskeyomega
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    1272 years ago

    Chief Wiggum : No Jury in the World is going to convict a baby…Maybe Texas

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    1042 years ago

    Data from Brownsville ISD seen by The Observer showed its officers made 3,102 student arrests between May 2021 and Nov. 2023. Nearly 60% of those were on felony charges and 76 of those kids were in elementary school.

    What the everliving fuck is wrong with these people?

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    1002 years ago

    Despite being accused of ignoring Texas laws which require parental involvement before such interventions, Cameron County District Attorney Rene Garza told a hearing Wednesday that his office was gathering further evidence against Murray, rather than deciding to drop the charges.

    If the law protects you, it will be ignored and the people who ignore it will face no consequences for their lawlessness. The law is for hurting you, and only laws that hurt you count.

    • ██████████
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      182 years ago

      i cant stop laughing at the idea of the grown ass adults asking a 10 year old boy if be wanted to hurt himself whilenin handcuffs so they put him in a turtle suit and solitary his ass