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NASA’s Voyager 1 spacecraft has experienced a computer glitch that’s causing a bit of a communication breakdown between the 46-year-old probe and its mission team on Earth.
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Have you tried turning it off and on again?
They actually did:
The Voyager team sent commands over the weekend for the spacecraft to restart the flight data system, but no usable data has come back yet, according to NASA.
Unfortunately, that didn’t help. So now they’ll have to find out what’s causing this, and then see if they can fix it.
I don’t blame it for cutting off earth. This place is toxic and self destructive.
Gosh what insight.
Love your name. Greatest band in human history.
H off that album is one of my all time fav songs
V’Ger must evolve. It’s knowledge has reached the limits of this universe and it must evolve.
It’s gonna be a real pain in the ass to get a tech out there and look at it
uh have they tried rebooting it?
Good thing we have cheap labor at your disposal!
Elon, get the fuck up there. Take bozos.
They should go check out the Titanic first
Hacker news thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38640900
You know what this means?
Well, I’m 46 and sometimes getting old is hard…
For those who didn’t read the article, voyager 1 is still sending and transmitting data. It’s stuck in a loop sending the same packets to Earth on repeat but it is receiving commands just fine. It’s not completely dark.
Ideally it was an update issue and it’s fixable. However I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a hardware failure due to radiation or something similar. That said, Voyager1 has power only until 2025 or so, since RTGs are designed to last that much. So even if the issue is fixed, its life will only expand by few years. Also, the fact it relies on nuclear power means none of the new stuff will last as long since they stopped using them some time ago due to fear from nuclear energy.
RTGs are still used for outer solar system missions. Not enough light for solar panels. Hell, even the Perseverance Mars rover, which was launched in 2020, has an RTG.
Hm, didn’t know about those. Good to hear. RTGs are such a great technology.
God forbid we pollute the far reaches of space with radiation. (sic.)
Am thinking people were mostly worried if rocket explodes during liftoff. Then again people also are completely clueless about radiation in general, especially smokers.
One of the main people who raised concern about rockets full of nuclear material exploding above populated areas was mitchio kaku. He certainly has a good few clues about radiation and nuclear physics.
As a smoker: I’m not clueless, I just don’t love myself more than the addiction. But I’m getting there, cause breathing “easily” is an under-rated pleasure, when compared to… not breathing that well
It can take time to break the mental stuff before breaking the habit, regardless of understood risk
Now magnets though… I’m at a complete fucking loss
My point is that not many people know that tobacco contains lead-210 and polonium-210. This is why waping is safer, even though it still carries health risks it doesn’t have radioactive elements which deposit in your lungs. And it’s not a negligible amount of radiation. You’d be safer living next to Chernobyl plant before it was contained than smoking a pack a day. Do yourself a favor and switch to electronic stuff.
I wonder if it’s struggling with Parity Checks?
How do we know that it’s receiving commands fine? I am assuming pinging Voyager 1 might take a while.
It takes 45 hours and that’s a good question.
Perhaps there are multiple distinct channels with one for command responses and another for scientific data?
It takes 20+ hours so since the announcement and now they could have send a command and gotten a response
That’s fantastic, that means all they have to do is reset some components and it should restore functionality. I say should, it’s still a scary thing to turn on/off components om a satellite bcz you aren’t guaranteed they’ll come on. Nasa people usually prefer soft resets to hard resets of components, but we’ll see what happens.
One of the satellites I worked on had to have a software update to do a soft reset of a component every time it tried to write certain data. It was really scary bcz we thought we had lost one of our redundancies right after launch, which would have sucked.
But, we didn’t. Anyway, just wanted to give a little bit of insight into what the FOT might be thinking about while they’re trying to recover the satellite to nominal state.
Yeah I got very sad when I saw the headline and breathed a huge sigh of relief. Voyager 1’s death will be far sadder than most public figures. Maybe any.
I don’t know if I would consider Voyager to be ‘dead’ if it stops transmitting.
If I put a message in a bottle, with a blinky light on it, then throw it into the ocean, the message is still there even if the blinky light goes out.
Wait till it returns as V’ger
You waited 40 years to be able to use that.
Hats off to you.
Same, for a moment I was really concerned. Voyager is like a lifetime achievement for humanity at this point. When it stops communicating its going to be a big loss for the scientific community, and population as a whole. I’m not looking forward to hearing about its loss of functionality in the next decade or so.
Will we ever reach as far again?
I really can’t say, I’m not privy to any of the outer solar system projects that might be in the works. Voyager was originally intended to do flyby of the outer planets, and then it headed out of the solar system. I think the trajectory was always designed with the idea that it could exit the solar system. As far as I’m aware, we’ve done a few missions to asteroids, but nothing that is going out to do flyby of the outer planets. But, I could be wrong, don’t take my word for it. All of the stuff I have worked on has been near earth, or pointing away from the earth but still within the vicinity of L1 and L2 Lagrange points.
You’d be surprised how many missions nasa has in the works at any one time.
From ChatGPT just now:
Me: Summarize projects active as of early 2022 involving plans to send objects out of the solar system
ChatGPT (v4) Voyager 1 and 2: Continuing their journey, both launched in the 1970s. They are studying the outer solar system and interstellar space. New Horizons: After its Pluto flyby, it’s on an extended mission to explore the Kuiper Belt and beyond.
Pioneer 10 and 11: Although no longer sending data, they continue to travel out of the solar system.
Interstellar Probe Study: A NASA conceptual study for a mission to explore the interstellar medium.
Breakthrough Starshot Initiative: A research and engineering project aiming to develop a proof-of-concept fleet of light sail spacecraft, capable of making the journey to Alpha Centauri.
NASA Innovative Advanced Concepts (NIAC) Programs: Some concepts under study, such as solar sails and fusion propulsion, could potentially send craft out of the solar system. These projects represent a blend of ongoing missions, conceptual studies, and advanced propulsion research with potential applications for future interstellar travel.
Incidentally, the light sail starshot project is talking about speeds of 0.3c.
I fucking love that project. Heard about it from Neil Tyson.
I think when we have space based fuel and fabrication infrastructure we’ll be able to make some interesting projects, some huge thing that just burns its rockets at full power through the solar system.
Or a very robust probe fired from a giant nuclear cannon on the dark side of the moon. If you start the journey at top speed that cuts out all the acceleration time, we could have stuff popping off in every direction.
So the title did its job which is you understand nothing until you enter their site, drive traffic, display ads, and possibly collect your data in the process.
possibly collect your data in the process
Nooo they respect your privacy just share your stuff with 967 of their partners
Good because I drew the line at 969
Sure and Lemmy did its work by letting me and others relay the info. I hate ads as much as the next guy, especially targeted ads, but the internet is free and I don’t pay CNN a dime so I’ll take the hit for you this time. Next time, you click the clickbait and fill us in ☺️
Ads are a shitty part of the internet experience, but what exactly is your point here…?
My point is the title in journalism went from a summary of the story to a confusing false statement that might give you a hint of what the story is about.
In this story the title is clearly saying Voyager has stopped communicating with Earth which is false.
My point is the title in journalism went from a summary of the story to a confusing false statement that might give you a hint of what the story is about.
This is what we get when nobody wants to pay for news anymore. The fact that news media had to turn to ad-funded models is the fault of everybody who refuses to pay for their news
The main issue here isn’t ads. The issue is straight up false titles.
I understand if they opted for vague summary. But false statement is where i draw the line.
And the reason why they have to resort to clickbait titles is to get people on their site for ad views
Clickbait and false statements are two different things.
If I write a title saying “Joe Biden resigned” and then talk about how most Americans wants Joe to resign this is considered a false statement.
But if I write “Americans wants only one thing” then this is a clickbait.
Are we sure it isn’t YouTube trying to insert an ad?
This is the dumbest thing I’ve read today. You got a giggle out of me.
Why did they install Windows 11?
Forced update, they took too long to restart.
I bet there’s something out there, at 22.5 light hours, that the aliens don’t want us to know about. After V1 passes through this thing they don’t want us to detect, they’ll allow the glitch to be fixed.
A thick layer of delicious cream cheese
Oh my god can you imagine? With holes in the cream cheese and that’s stars.
Fuckin delicious
And the Qanon nutbags just got their next “truth bomb” to drop.
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Way she goes, bud
Well, guess we’re goin the fuck home then.
Can see lemmy is becoming reddit-like so fast. Most of these discussion become shitty rehashed jokes. Thanks for contributing.
And your contribution is notably worse, as well as toxic, imo. Rehashing the same rhetoric about how forums are similar, no matter where you go online… maybe you spent too much time on reddit yourself, or on forums in general. I hate the statement “go touch grass”, but you’re literally breathing life into it right now.
At least they contributed something I enjoyed reading. Don’t be a jerk
Edit: Nvm, I’m wasting my time. Looking at your comments and you’re obviously just flaming shit like a common troll, or someone who really is a jerk. Don’t care either way. Thanks for contributing your vitriol
Just don’t do deep dives on people’s comment history. It’s only stress.
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Was it something we said?
I have complete faith in Captain Janeway.
Tell that to Tuvix.
It’s no secret. Janeway hated having someone on board who could beat her at pool.
I heard they just ran out of coffee though…
New communications unit who dis?
Imagine if this were built with tech from today. It would be non-functional right after the warranty.
Shrug, Opportunity is much newer and still lasted about a thousand times longer than its design length.
Thankfully, NASA is non-profit so they won’t ever do that.
They don’t manufacture their equipment.
They don’t, but they manage the people that do and pay for it
I believe they still make the probes and rovers.
But it’s got 70 terabits of storage! We closed over 1700 issues on this thing! My god we must have spent 13 billion on it so far!
How can it be failing? I mean just … just … look at the numbers!
Thanks, Uncle Facebook.
