2024 is the Year of Linux on the Desktop, at least for my boyfriend. He’s running Windows 7 right now, so I’ll be switching him to Ubuntu in a few days. Ubuntu was chosen because Proton is officially supported in Ubuntu.

  • cannache
    link
    fedilink
    92 years ago

    Wow that’s shit, I know a lot of people who would still be quite happy to continue using Windows 7

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      292 years ago

      It’s ancient, unsupported, and closed source. Nobody can create or distribute security updates. People would have been happy to keep using horses and buggies if there’d been an automatic horse shit shoveller.

          • Something Burger 🍔
            link
            fedilink
            22 years ago

            How so? 7 is the last good version of Windows. It’s not surprising some people want to keep using it. It does have security issues but at least there are no ads in the Start menu and it doesn’t shill for OneDrive on startup.

            • @[email protected]
              link
              fedilink
              12 years ago

              So that is true it doesn’t do those bad things, but what makes it actually good and not just not bad?

                • @[email protected]
                  link
                  fedilink
                  1
                  edit-2
                  2 years ago

                  Fair enough. I wish we could fork it.

                  Edit: by we I mean someone who knows what they’re doing or even what should be done. Which isn’t me.

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        10
        edit-2
        2 years ago

        People are lazy as fuck. Provided it plays their games they don’t give a shit about features updates, patches, bug fixes etc.

        They probably have no ideal what version of windows is even installed on their machine.

        • @[email protected]
          link
          fedilink
          112 years ago

          That’s true, but their apathy or ignorance is a threat to any networked device. There’s definitely an argument for “my device,y software, my rules”, and technically you can run windows 7 as long as you want, but Valve shouldn’t be perpetually expected to support deprecated software either. In their case specifically, if would be hard to ensure their anti-cheating software isn’t being circumvented at the operating system level, meaning the experience of everyone on any OS would be lowered by continuing to support a 14 year old version of Windows.

  • Vitaly
    link
    fedilink
    12 years ago

    Please use pop os, it’s a lot better in my opinion

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      22 years ago

      Linux Mint handled cross version updates much more gracefully.

      Also, fuck Flatpak in Pop os. Each update downloads a few gigs worth of Nvidia drivers, because each app references a different version.

      It is terrible.

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    122 years ago

    The only reason my windows partition still lives is so I can stream VR to the quest 2, literally everything else I do in Linux and I’m so close to 100% I can taste it!

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      English
      1
      edit-2
      2 years ago

      I think Linux holds you back. Stop edging “when will this ancient technology support come?” and migrate to the best operating system 🪟1️⃣1️⃣ worldwide.

      We support your VR, 1999 wifi drivers, we have drivers for every plastic you own. It takes one step. Come to us.

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      42 years ago

      I only have Windows because it’s the only way to run Ableton Live with plugins on your own hardware.

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    22 years ago

    They can use steamCMD. If they don’t want to switch to Linux, we don’t need to shove things down.

  • Victor
    link
    fedilink
    52 years ago

    Can recommend Arch as a gaming platform OS. Works well with Steam. It’s what the Steam Deck is built on. 👍

  • GladiusB
    link
    fedilink
    22 years ago

    Check out Lime disto. It’s a friendlier interface and all the cool perks of Ubuntu. It’s built on the basic same architecture. I have had my Steam and many other games work. If it wasn’t for Epic I would go full Linux.

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      22 years ago

      I’m sure you’re probably aware, but the Heroic Game Launcher has compatibility built in to install and launch both Gog and Epic games. Makes it almost as easy as steam to set up and get going. I can’t speak to any multiplayer/FPS games with anti-cheat shit though, probably SOL there

      • GladiusB
        link
        fedilink
        12 years ago

        I tried it. It does have the launcher. However the Anti Cheat software of the game no one can get around. I’m even in their discord and the explicitly say it doesn’t work or load in. You can get into the game menu and the minute you instance in the game boots you.

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      32 years ago

      Actually it was around mid 2000’s when it matured enough as a desktop environment to be used by a regular user. Since then it has been improving, and for the last decade or so I dare say it is even easier to use.

          • @[email protected]
            link
            fedilink
            English
            12 years ago

            Oh yeah? Explain why I can’t run league of legends, valorant, Fortnite, R6 siege, PUBG, faceit csgo, destiny 2, fiveM and hundreds more games if Linux is better in literally every way? (your words)

            And why did I have trouble setting up wifi and sound drivers? Why did a simple update break my whole PC so much I had to reinstall windows again? Why superusers™ are always disrespectful and condescending? Why are kernel developers so disconnected from reality? Do I really need 999+ distros for every use case?

            Maybe, a big MAYBE year 2100 will be the year of the Linux desktop. For now, it’s better to just stick with what’s been working for the past 30 years.

            Oh I’ll be stomped for criticism, because I threatened the holy open source. Come on, hack me using your terminal like some 90’s kid and prove me wrong. Or don’t. I don’t care 💅🏿😘

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    382 years ago

    Like others already mentioned, I would suggest Linux Mint as well. It’s better Ubuntu than Ubuntu and similarity to Windows UI would make his transition much better.

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      142 years ago

      Seconded. Switched my wife to Mint two years ago, and she never cared about going back to Windows. Not that she cares about Mint, either; the point of contention was the transition, which was much smoother than she was afraid of.

  • @[email protected]
    link
    fedilink
    382 years ago

    Noo please don’t Ubuntu. Just plain debian or mint debian instead for the closest thing without canonical. Ubuntu is based on debian and all the actual reasons to use it over debian ended probably like a decade or so ago.

    I don’t think there are many distro specific proton issues, if they exist at all. I’ve switched from arch to tumbleweed to bazzite(ublue/fedora based) and the only issues were unrelated to gaming. Proton would work on a toaster if it had a display and a vulkan compatible GPU.

    • Corgana
      link
      fedilink
      31
      edit-2
      2 years ago

      ubuntu is fine lol especially for a newbie. Zorin is really familliar for a windows user.

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        72 years ago

        I’m not sure for Ubuntu… I’ve seen here and there that some snap are still not as good as flatpak or .deb.

        Especially the steam one where some games wouldn’t launch on the snap but do with the flatpak or the .deb. Progress are made regularly, but until the snaps aren’t on par with other packages type, I wouldn’t recommand Ubuntu for beginners.

        Distro based on it, without snap, yeah sure. Pop OS, tuxedo OS, Mint, Debian… There is a lot of alternative where you do not have to struggle on forced non finished applications.

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        22 years ago

        And even not for newbies. I’ve using so many distros in the part 15 years, and I still prefer Ubuntu. (Or maybe Fedora)

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      382 years ago

      Someone who’s going to use Ubuntu wouldn’t know what “debian,” “mint debian,” or “canonical” are. You should include an actual explanation or link to what you’re referring to when trying to help beginners otherwise you’ve failed to help them

    • @[email protected]
      link
      fedilink
      42 years ago

      I’ve had exactly zero issues with steam on NixOS. It might actually be the best distro to choose short of the officially supported ones as steam runs in chroot with exactly what it’s expecting in terms of libraries etc. Not a beginner-friendly distro though, user base is pretty much made up of devops, functional programmers, programmers appreciating replicable environments and willing to tolerate nix, as well as the odd enthusiast tinkerer.

      • @[email protected]
        link
        fedilink
        32 years ago

        Nixos user here, ive used it on nixos with meh experiences. Especially with proton + the witcher 3 for example. Have to install it through flatpak for better compatibility.

        • @[email protected]
          link
          fedilink
          32 years ago

          Try switching Witcher 3 from using fullscreen to borderless window or the other way around, that fixed the fullscreen issues for me, it’s just the game getting confused about whether it has focus or not. That was before the update though haven’t tried since then.

          That’s a general proton issue though and not NixOS, fullscreen just is fickle on windows and that extends to an emulated windows.