“I like Viking stuff”
Might be just into Norse mythology. Might be into Nazis.
Or Norwegian were this is legitimate part of our culture and thought in primary school.
I am ex Norwegian Army, and we still use Norse imagery on unit insignias. And half sport tons of Norse ink.
I loved all the Viking / Norse shit when I was younger. Comics, games, etc, I couldn’t get enough.
But then I started talking to people who followed that aesthetic and was disappointed by exactly 100% of them.
Still love the games. Lost Vikings, Rune, GoW, etc
Maps to the west, assicles, etc.
100% into metal and might have poor hygiene.
I like this band named Heilung, which has some Viking-ish costumes and lore etc. (although more like Conan’s Hyperborea). They have to put a disclaimer at the start of their videos which is basically a politer version of “Nazi punks fuck off”.
disclaimer at the start of their videos which is basically a politer version of “Nazi punks fuck off”.
The whole scene has been doing that since what 70 years or so now. After the war some groups of people started seriously wondering about what civilisation is, how it’s very much not rooted in whether or not you wear a suit or not, and started looking for roots. The old Germanic roots were at that time actually out of the question: The Nazis had appropriated and bent them to their brand of insanity, but Karl May existed and with the US there were actual Indians in Germany in the form of GIs. Cultural exchange happened, pretty much unnoticed by the general population, and with that came knowledge: Tradition is not the praying to the ashes, but the passing of the fire, that exchange helped people find genuine embers, small as they were. Once people started to flame the symbols of those embers Nazis came along and wanted to be part of it and promptly were told to fuck off – not just out of a general antifascist stance but also because Nazis, in particular, were the ones who poisoned the little that was left after Christianisation. Then time moved on and a lot happened. Baudrillard, for one. Bear with me:
You might’ve noticed that Heilung doesn’t have Germanic symbology front and left and centre – it’s not about the, or any, symbology. They’re not Asatru or something, their costumes and historical references go back further than the Norse (pretty much as far as they can). About the closest you get is song titles written in runic alphabet and some consistent choices in graphic design looking quite like Nordic carvings – but none of that is religious stuff as-such.
From what I can tell Nazis don’t actually try to get a piece of that particular pie: It’s not to their liking. They like their symbols, their flags to rally around, their fetishes, to distract themselves from realising what they’re actually doing. The “Nazi punks fuck off” part is there for people stumbling across it, vibing with it, and wondering whether it’s kosher. Yes, yes it very much is. They’re plain and simply modern shamans who happen to be history nerds, and western esotericism has been post-structural for long enough now that the lack of symbolic system shouldn’t really surprise, c.f. e.g. Chaos Magick. They write and perform rituals to speak to parts of the psyche that what we call civilisation may have forgotten, but certainly not the genome. That, you know, one great being that was always there.
Check out Brothers of Metal!
I am really interested in WW2 but that is because I think space is cool asf
off topic.
V2 by Robert Harris. A novel about a German engineer and a British codebreaker in opposition.
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No. That’s not what it’s saying. But if that’s your conclusion from it then you’re the exact type of person the post is warning about…
Edit: Ah nevermind. After checking your post history you’re blatantly an alt of someone else in this thread. Not worth engaging with.
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It doesn’t imply anti-intellectalism from my view, the post says things like Prussian military history and specifically the treaty of Versailles type obsessions, which is quite a bit different than being interested in history like the printing press or indigenous displacement, Spanish Civil War, etc
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The post itself says “there are plenty of valid reasons to be into WW2” and says it’s the caution zone, not that you can’t be into it. And anyway, I am pretty sure this wasn’t intended as a literal litmus test for fascist tendencies or something, but a jokey observation of how sometimes the person super into Wermact tactics and technology might probably like them too much
i was into greek mythological as a kid cuz of percy jackson but it just made me extremely horny
I’m interested in the subjects that I never learned in school, like Asian history or ancient Mesopotamian history. African empires seems interesting too, and I’m very curious about how the Polynesians came to be, seems wild.
I binged this History of Africa podcast last year, and it’s pretty good History of Africa Podcast
Thanks for the recommendation, looks interesting
What’s point 2 about? What historical subjects would still be considered questionable, p
Suspicious interest in the Wehrmacht is a big one.
What about Interest on the Red Army?
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^^ NERD ALERT! ^^
/s
Get out of here with any sort of a reasonable take on anything, they don’t welcome that sort of dangerous thinking around these parts, apparently.
How about we learn to recognize satire and joke posts.
It’s just a joke bruh
I’ve noticed that, after a relative lull, people are getting bullied for traditional reasons again. However the bullies code those reasons as deplorable, so that they can imply their targets are just assholes.
I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make here. Are you suggesting that telling people to be wary of history buffs (after decades of examples of “history buffs” being code for wild bigot/racist) is actually just bullying people who like history? Because if so that’s a gross over exaggeration of what the post is saying. Or are you talking about the Greek mythology thing? Because the tumblr user who posted it is queer and so am I so that conclusion would also be pretty heavily flawed and wrought with heterocentric thinking.
I want to talk to you about the Greek mythology thing for a second: Are you now, or have you ever been a swan?
No comment.
This post is laying the groundwork to say someone is somehow morally compromised for having certain interests. Those interests have been common interests for decades.
Right now, there’s 100 percent a mood that people who are morally compromised deserve to be mistreated.b
The end result of posts like these is nerds being bullied in the same way they used to before the whole anti bullying attitude started. Only this is even worse because the victims get told they are POSes who deserve it.
The Roman one specifically applies to basically every male history nerd. Same with WW2.
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If you instantly judge someone for having extremely common innocuous interests, you’re an asshole.
You do that, but leverage social justice rhetoric to act like you’re actually a good person for doing so.
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Right?
“If you have an interest in a period of history in which bad people lived, it’s probably because you secretly idolize them.”
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Guess I’m gay then. Who knew?
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DID SOMEONE SAY CRUSAID???
Hey… I’m not gay…
Sorry you had to find out this way
Idk how im going to tell my wife im gay
Welcome to bisexuality
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Get your boyfriend to tell her boyfriend.
Can’t tell if it’s funnier if you’re a guy or a gal
I don’t know how to tell my wife I’m a swan.
If her name is Leda, she’ll be cool with it.
But babe, you said you were a carbonari sandwich!!
She knows man
“I’m really interested in the history of the great flood and how it explains how dinosaur fossils are so many layers down in the geologic column even though dinosaurs lived alongside humans only 6,000 years ago. Plus the the flood formed the Grand Canyon in only a few weeks.”
If humans and dinosaurs did not coexist, how could Jesus have won the first Kentucky Derby and tripple crown riding his trusty velociraptor.
Scrolling through the comments.
I like OP, this is my kind of person. Knowing stuff because it’s just fun and interesting to know stuff, and being willing to engage, share, and correct.
I need more of this on the fediverse.
As someone who just really thinks its cool how an ancient civilization was able to become such a superpower with roads and infrastructure and then fall so harshly. 😢
It is. It’s impressive to me that the real founders of Christianity were 5 centuries behind their time. St. Paul was 5 centuries after Epicures, Aristotle, and Plato. This is really mind boggling. Imagine if someone from the Columbus voyages time traveled to modern times and within 4 centuries all of Western civilization was in flames mostly due to their actions. Over 99% of the written word of the Greeks and Romans were destroyed by the Church. Is there anything remotely comparable in history?
2024 looks great, right?
