I didn’t think you could make this shit up, honestly
My sister works as a contractor and has run-ins with private schools occasionally and whatever you’ve heard about these parents, it’s worse than you can possibly imagine. I never would’ve thought someone would be so proud of the fact that they treat their children like pawns and clearly something to check off on a life list or some bullshit.
I am struggling to wrap my mind around it. In the year 2023, it is common to ask two dating people when they plan to get married and have kids. Which alone wouldn’t be a bad thing, but these questions are so fucking ominous now that I have this knowledge. Fuuuuuuuck me
What about people who have children to have an retirement plan
I didn’t need to be reminded of my existence this early in the morning
“I look after them for 20-30 years so they look after me for 20-30 years” isn’t such a terrible idea.
It’s not bad if you offer them the love, respect, and bonding that will inspire a willingness in them to support those close to them (as well as their community in general)
if youre an asshole sure.
Idk that’s just kind of how a lot of families work.
doesnt make something right, most people spank their children too. we as a society treat children as everything except human beings. i dont think you should have kids for any reason other then you love them. i wont cast judgement of people in extreme poverty but as someone with more personal family experience with people having many children in the global south its a very hard thing for that child to go through, to know that their existence was primarily a financial decision.
Love is kind of the point though. I don’t think most people have children for the sole purpose of having somebody take care of them when they’re older. If some people do, then sure, that’s wrong. I guess I just believe in taking care of the people you love. My parents are older and I care for them because I love them, and sure, I think it’s right to do since they’ve cared for me my entire life.
But I think we’re talking about different things here. I’m not really talking about the financial side, more the caring for side. Though sometimes the two overlap.
You sometimes see strange people online call others “genetic dead ends” as an insult, and it always strikes me that these people have a view of life itself that is so completely alien to me.
Some sciencey person told me once that after a couple or three generations, there’s nothing discernible of “you” left in your descendants. All these weirdos who think they’re fucking Charlemagne and building a fAmiLY LeGaCy or something don’t get that whether you have kids or not, when you’re gone you’re gone.
Not only that, but think about how little the average person knows or cares about their great great grandparents. That’s going to be everyone in a few generations. Familial legacy is a lie.
“You only live as long as the last person who remembers you” is a quote I remember hearing somewhere
Do not cry for me for I am already dead
Some sciencey person told me once that after a couple or three generations, there’s nothing discernible of “you” left in your descendants
11th century nobility in shambles rn
I think if you just keep marrying cousins the math looks different
That shit always pisses me off. Like when people go “oh I don’t have kids but my sister does. So my genes live on” bro my genes are in some of the worst people i have met they are not the part of me I want to live on.
Yeah by 3 generations or so they are pretty well mixed. Like yeah there are some stable chromosomal regions that get transferred in chunks, which is why you often see family traits, but the idea that your genes as a totality somehow maintain cohesion is just silly.
wonder if those folks even know what DNA stands for
“I’m only asking you once.”
“Where is the Deoxyribonucleic base?”
Da nut ayyy!
I don’t want my intentions to be misconstrued. I am not at all anti-child. I am very much anti-have a kid for the sake of producing a nuclear family and neglecting your children. Is that not the epitome of patriarchal conservatism?
Should have also added that this post stemmed from a mother (kids in private school) who said she was going to send her kids to a babysitter for the holidays so she and her husband could have peace
send her kids to a babysitter for the holidays so she and her husband could have peace
i dunno that’s kinda
hope she likes the worst possible home when it’s her kids turn to clap back
Sending my parents to the retirement gulag.
A lot of women in my family have kids out of loneliness. It’s a terrible idea, but at the same time I understand the motivation.
It’s a sad cycle: grow up in dysfunctional family, escape only to be confronted with crushing loneliness, have a kid who grows up in dysfunctional family…
Yeah that’s super valid
The types of people I was referring to in this post were those who have kids to secure the white race and educate children in private schools that treat them like shit and go home to be treated like shit—the types of people who see women only having utility in a traditional patriarchal sense.
This is just as much an anti-charter schools argument as anything else, honestly. Needless to say though, shit is looking grim for the future of
What’s great is that treating your kids like shit is the guaranteed #1 way to turn them against everything you believe in.
Unfortunately you would be suprised how many kids just ditch the parents but keep the ideology.
Private School parents are some of the worst people imaginable and they all work in the most ghoulish fields. Went to a private school and majority of these kids would talk about how their parents went out to golf after work and not come home until late at night. I’m not privileged either. I only got in on an athletic scholarship after a scout saw me running and wanted me for his team.
The questions as to whether or not my partner and I will be having kids have grown worse since we got engaged. My country is very conservative and being past 25 unmarried without kids will lead people to think something’s wrong with you.
Yeah they do, my “”“”“mother”“”“” was one.
She viewed children as pets and property. We were there to serve her financially and emotionally, and she had friends who viewed their children the same way.
As a newly married person, being asked if we’re trying to have kids is fucking weird to us.
“Congratulations! So are you nutting raw?”
Little do they know, my balls don’t work anymore lmao.
But yeah, the general public at large is very much just following a script and checking off boxes on the life bingo card.
I’m not sure if Marx wrote about this, but this is another huge contradiction in capitalism. The idea of how important these checkboxes are, but they are also gatekept by speculators so they become little more than a sign of wealth. It costs 10s of thousands of dollars just to actually give birth to a kid. Homes have become an investment vehicle so there is an incentive in keeping housing as expensive as possible: society picked housing to be a way to make money rather than a shelter, so it’s that much harder to check off the checkboxes. Getting a job? Well employers are now very picky because they would rather just pile more work onto their pre-existing employees than hire anyone new. In their eyes, that’s leaving money on the table. They all think their google so they have like six rounds of interviews to let you know that they only want unicorn candidates. What’s that? They told you no? Well then you’re clearly intentionally leeching off the system by being unable to impress these petty tyrants.
Tell them you’re an anal-only couple.
Probably will stop the questions.
The only babies i have come out of my butt after eating Taco Bell.
Yeah I’ve seen people like that, at least 2 in my family too. I could talk shit about my parents parenting all day, but at least they recognized me as a person and not some property.
wow, just a portion? we are surrounded by them and it’s fucking disgusting
“what do you mean by ‘you should treat your child as a human and not force them to do exactly what you want without caring about their opinions’?” can summarize most of the conversations we have had with people like this
Mods can we please lock the thread this has been nice but I don’t want to start shit, just wanted to vent
personally i delete threads when i dont wanna deal with them anymore, also reaching out to the mods helps.
I’ll love them unconditionally but also I’m going to brainwash them into creating a revolutionary army
this is most people.
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most normal republican
Death to America
Unless your sister’s family has a giant pile of money, those kids are gonna end up estranged and resentful. From experience.
And liberal
Make no mistake, if this is the driving force for someone having kids it will show in their relationship and their kids will eventually turn away from them. It often takes a long time, but sooner or later it’ll happen.
Your sister sounds insane
this is my dad
basically anyone who’s concerned about aryan birth rates
There are sooooooooo many more than I thought. Or who knows, maybe they’re just fucking loud
But private school is such a red flag