Young voters overwhelmingly say they would support President Biden over former President Trump in a hypothetical head-to-head match-up if the 2024 presidential election were held today, according to a poll released Wednesday.
In the Economist/YouGov poll — conducted via web-based interviews Dec. 16-18 — more than half (53 percent) of registered voters under 30 said they would support Biden, and less than a quarter (24 percent) said they would support Trump.
Another 10 percent said they would support another candidate, 4 percent said they were not sure, and 9 percent said they wouldn’t vote.
Good to see the the DNC propaganda machine is still working.
Biden is a great president and best panacea to the ugliness of current politics. Feel free to not like him though. Nothing against polls but it is still far out so even as a Biden supporter I’m not going to wave this poll around like I’m Dean Phillips.
If that’s the case, hopefully they get out and vote.
Young voters overwhelmingly prefer the guy who’s not actively trying to destroy the future, how shocking!
Biden is absolutely trying to destroy the future, just much, much slower than the Republicans.
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Trumps stated first step is to “drill drill drill” so please explain why this isn’t an effort to dissuade from the better option?
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Biden isn’t trying to destroy the world. Everything isn’t black and white no matter how much you want it to be. We’re back in the Paris Climate Accords despite how the man-baby in the previous administration pulled out because Obama.
I mean, if you want to argue that we are going to destroy the world no matter what, we could speedrun it by electing the fascist who wants to destabilize the entire world by pulling out of NATO. I however would prefer to live out the remainder of my natural life instead of nuclear Armageddon deciding for me.
Did I mention trump anywhere in my comment?
No one said you did.
9% said they wouldn’t vote, but how many actually won’t bother going to the polls?
It’s true that abortion drove out young voters, but I’m interested to see how long that bump goes on for
Won’t bother implies that it’s an easy thing to do, but this isn’t true of many underprivileged people. Next election will only be worse as restricting people’s waterbottle access and eliminating polling stations had just begun during the midterms and hadn’t been tested on the biggest scale elections yet.
It’s true that abortion drove out young voters, but I’m interested to see how long that bump goes on for
I’d guess until it becomes clear that Democrats don’t intend to fix the problem.
Except they have been, on a state by state basis, which is really the only legal way besides amending the US Constitution, which won’t happen on this issue.
So abortion bans are going to remain a Red State Problem forever. Got it.
Can’t tell if that’s sarcasm or not? But pretty much
Cool. I’ll just file “10 year olds being forced to bear their rapists’ offspring” with all the other Red State Problems that the national party has no plan or desire to fix, ever.
I’d love to hear your ideas to fix it when it’s unconstitutional to do so. Short of amending the constitution, what are the options?
For the record, no party has proposed a viable solution, regardless of how mainstream that party is
I’d love to hear your ideas to fix it when it’s unconstitutional to do so.
Well, once we have a majority of any size, we kill the filibuster. We use our majority to supersede the judiciary act of 1869 and increase the size of the Supreme Court. We then put additional justices on the supreme court and repeal Dobbs, thereby reinstating Roe.
Then we codify Roe so Republicans will have a harder time getting rid of it. Then we have a popular accomplishment to run on, a majority not hamstrung by the Jim Crow Filibuster, and a Supreme Court that isn’t ruling in bad faith against the American people.
Or we continue to timidly do nothing, or worse, blame the victims because they live in red states and therefore need to suffer for committing the sin of being outnumbered.
I believe we’ll just get them in the mail here. Should be standard everywhere tbh
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Young voters overwhelmingly say they would support President Biden over former President Trump in a hypothetical head-to-head match-up if the 2024 presidential election were held today, according to a poll released Wednesday.
A New York Times/Siena College poll released Tuesday showed Trump ahead of Biden by 6 points among registered voters under 30.
Biden and Trump are the current front-runners for the Democratic and Republican parties, respectively.
Recent polls have indicated Biden’s popularity is waning slightly as Trump’s ticks up.
The incumbent held a mostly consistent lead over Trump for the first several months of the year, until mid-September.
The Economist/YouGov poll surveyed 1,336 registered voters, with a margin of error of plus or minus 3.2 percentage points.
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One day it’s an article saying young voters are abandonning Biden, next day it’s one saying they overwhelmingly support him.
No one on the planet is overwhelming supporting him. The only question if if Trump is scarier. There is no sane reason why DNC won’t put forward a better candidate. Why would Biden cling to power and senility instead of bowing out for health reasons. It’s Ruth Bader all over again.
There are extremely good reasons for the DNC to go with Biden: he has already beaten Trump once, and incumbents tend to do well
I understand that he won the popular vote “handily,” but he only barely scraped by electorally. We were talking a handful of thousands of votes in key states.
Most incumbents don’t consistently back the genocidal actions of Israel.
Little bit different
All of them do and have since Israel was established. One party just does it harder than the other while in power.
So maybe it’s time we change it
Pretty much all presidents have unconditionally supported Israel, actually.
Maybe it is time to change that.
Straight talk, the war is coming, and I would rather be the one to fight in it rather than my children.
Let’s just get it done and over with, cut off the festering limb, and start healing.
Including, of course, Biden’s predecessor and electoral opponent. Who apparently wants to bar Gazan refugees from entry and conduct ideological screening of immigrants to make sure they’re pro-Israel
Trump backs Israel too. It’s either going to be Biden or Trump. So if that’s your criterion, you’ve already lost.
It doesn’t have to be!
Instead of fighting against those of us who want a different president, why not support us.
You have given up already, so how are you going to judge me if I give up next year?
The primaries are still an option.
Who exactly do you think has a chance at winning the primaries and becoming the nominee assuming Trump is allowed on the ballot? Because as far as I can see, it’s Biden or Trump.
Anyone who wanted to compete in the primaries is way too late. But feel free to give me the name of the person you think has a chance and explain why.
I will gladly take literally any bet you like that, barring actual death, Joe Biden will be the DNC nominee. Find an escrow and name whatever bet you like.
Oh I agree, everyone is too scared too run anyone else because “trump”.
God forbid that everyone who is telling me he’s not that bad, and think about trump.
Fuck that, if we run Biden and end up with trump it is purely what we deserve.
As opposed to his predecessor who literally did a shitton of the work for them and on their behalf?
Do White Leftists just not remember Jerusalem is also their fault for letting Trump Happen or is it just Roe they think they gotta deny deflect and project on?
Do White Leftists just not remember Jerusalem is also their fault for letting Trump Happen
Arrogant centrists put forth a candidate who was so inept that she promoted the candidate that beat her and then didn’t campaign in swing states. Don’t blame leftists for the mistake you nominated.
Welp, when my daughter is pressed into service as a brood mare for the Theocratic American State after we lost our right to vote in the 2028 election, I’ll be sure to salute you for your heroic refusal to support genocide in Gaza (which was nuked in ‘26 btw)
You could join me in fighting against it
he has already beaten Trump once
Barely. With the awfulness that was Trump’s presidency still happening. The voters have ridiculously short memories and Biden’s main campaign strategy of running as “not the other guy” isn’t anywhere near as effective for an incumbent as for a challenger.
By insisting on Biden, the DNC is dramatically increasing the risk of losing the election and thereby making it the last one.
Biden is insanely healthy compared to RBG and her multiple cancers lmao what the fuck
Biden is also far more coherent than Trump and he has a fucking stutter to contend with.
Yup. This is the circus part of the bread and circuses.
In what universe is 53% (against a fascist malignant narcissist manchild, no less!) overwhelming support?
Certainly not this one.
The one where it’s 53% for Biden vs 24% for Trump
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Fair. Should have read more thoroughly lol.
Because it’s not 53vs47, but 53vs24.
Biden has double the support with youth Trump has.
But one has to wonder where the other % are, not speaking their mind because they have someone with them that requires them to support the other guy or just don’t want to go on the record with anything regardless. (and this goes both ways, teens not dare to say they would vote Bidden because the people with them are MAGAts or people that would vote Trump, but are scared to say out loud because they know full well their peers don’t agree).
Every week it’s a different poll with a different result and a different headline. All I’m learning is that these polls are meaningless.
Man, the level of statistics illiteracy here is out of control. I hope y’all are just literal children that are still in pre-algebra or something.
Not all polls are meaningless. But there are a ton of meaningless polls that get an inordinate amount of attention. And I believe the overall goal of that is to make people think they’re all meaningless.
There haven’t been many disasters and the news orgs need the clicks
That’s cool, as long as they actually follow through and vote when the time comes.
Do you think Boomers elected Biden in the 2020 general all on their own?
They won’t
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Well well well. Looks like we finally got a poll that wasn’t conducted by people calling a boomer’s landline at 2pm.
We got a poll that centrists won’t make up stories about in order to dismiss it in vaguely ageist terms.
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There is a distinct possibility the Supreme Court prevents Trump from running with this Colorado case in which case Biden is going to get his butt handed to him by Haley.
This just sucks.
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I meant when this goes to the National Supreme Court.
But would they vote? Young Americans historically have low voter turnout. Problem with youths is that we’re all talk and no action.
So Boomers elected Biden in the 2020 general all on their own? Got it.
55% of youths voted and 74% of boomers did.
Sounds like younger voters did show up then and if they hadn’t Biden would have lost.
Mail-in-votes in 2020 made voting easier. But still, voter turnout among young Americans could do better if you compare voter turnout with other countries.
Oh trust me, we won’t be showing up for Biden in 2024. His obvious disdain for anyone under the age of 65 made sure of that.
Care to elaborate?
Fucked the BBB, student loan forgiveness, weed legalization and getting healthcare insurance costs down. Currently using the Treasury and the Federal Reserve to fight American workers. Fucked over the rail workers by blocking the strike. Gave the most limp dicked support to the UAW. And currently supporting Israel against our wishes.
Young voters are being given really shitty choices.
I wonder when this magical time was where voting for the president had great choices. What many young voters fail to understand is that it’s not all about the president. Get enough Democrats into Congress, and they will be able to vote for progressive legislation, and if you send that to your far-from-ideal president’s desk, they’ll sign it.
It’s certainly a much easier task than having an awesome progressive president who begs a near 50-50 Congress to pass good bills, and it just doesn’t happen.
Get enough Democrats into Congress
And what exactly is enough?
There is no exact number. The more there are, the bolder they can be.
Well I’ve seen them very a clear majority and not do anything, so this feels like a situation where the pertinent number will always been “just a bit more”.
Please tell me you’re not talking about the two month window in 2010 where they had a filibuster-proof majority, and passed a major healthcare reform bill, but it was kneecapped because it relied on Joe Lieberman to pass. Because that’s a case where a couple more Democrats would have made a huge difference in what we would have gotten, and also turned 2 months and some change into two years. That’s my point that there’s no exact number.
See, this is exactly what I’m talking about; no matter how many they get, it always wasn’t quite enough. It always needed “just a couple more”.
Having enough is a spectrum: the more there are, the bolder the legislation and the more likely it is to pass. So however many you get, you always fall short of doing even better with more.
Single payer healthcare had been discussed in the early stages — and it was clear they wouldn’t have 60 votes for it, so it was a non-starter. Because there were exactly 60 D/Is, there was no wiggle room. And the GOP held up the 60th Senator in the courts as long as they could because they had no wiggle room. And then Ted Kennedy had to vote for the ACA on his virtual deathbed, and after that their 60 votes were gone, so they couldn’t spend more time on healthcare or move on to other tough issues. Lieberman forced them to remove the public option from the bill.
But you are just overlooking that they did pass a major, consequential healthcare reform bill that solved some very important problems, which couldn’t be accomplished for decades before then, even though people tried.
And this all touches on my original point: a couple more Senators would have changed things significantly at that time, but a more progressive president would not have.
People need to study how the Moral Majority took control of the GOP. Nixon was a dead duck after he lost his California Senate race, but he knew that an ex-Vice President was a big deal in small places. He campaigned tirelessly for years, getting lots of Reps, Governors, and Mayors elected. In 1968 he breezed in because he had the Party base on his side.
The MMs did the same. They would show up at every local GOP meeting with enoughvotes to get their agenda enacted. One day the Party big shots looked around and realized that all the dog catchers, county clerks, and sheriffs in their state were MMs.
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Abbreviation for the Moral Majority that they mentioned in the first paragraph.
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Thanks for explaining
Ok, so we need to force the system to change outside of its normal paths of power to have choices. No one thinks this time existed, everyone understands the current situation is bad.
People need to study how the Moral Majority took control of the GOP. Nixon was a dead duck after he lost his California Senate race, but he knew that an ex-Vice President was a big deal in small places. He campaigned tirelessly for years, getting lots of Reps, Governors, and Mayors elected. In 1968 he breezed in because he had the Party base on his side.
The MMs did the same. They would show up at every local GOP meeting with enoughvotes to get their agenda enacted. One day the Party big shots looked around and realized that all the dog catchers, county clerks, and sheriffs in their state were MMs.
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Who woulda thunk that grassroots campaign works? Even for the side that you don’t like?
Get enough Democrats into Congress, and they will be able to vote for progressive legislation,
We had 60 and they killed the public option. How many do we need?
Yes, this is tradition.
Right? This poll is literally the same as asking young voters if they would rather have their entire heads cut off or just their eyes and ears gouged out.
He seems to be doing a pretty good job given his poor circumstances where the Republican house and supreme court are both totally useless.
He didn’t have those issues in his first two years. His own party blocked his agenda.
Wel the first two years we had the fuckheads Sinema and Manchin who are basically republicans at this point
Sinema didn’t kill the minimum wage increase by herself. She was one of 8 democrats to vote against workers.
Manchin is the perfect centrist Democrat.
This…just absolutely this. I was going to post something along the lines of it being a choice between eating shit or being flayed alive, but this is just better. Kudos.
Wow you guys are so original 🙄
We totally are. thanks.
What on earth are you talking about? Joe Biden tried to give 20k to each of them who went to college. And he would have if the–let me check my notes here: oh, right–Nazis in the other party hadn’t sued to prevent him from giving away money.
I appreciate that Biden might not be some folks’ first choice, but if you think young people believe another four years of Grampa Joe is just barely more tolerable than the deliberate annihilation of the Republic by fascist traitors, you might need to meet one.
It doesn’t really matter in the long run, America is run by oil companies, not the people. Joe signed off on more land for drilling than trump did.
I believe those were agreements signed by Trump that Biden had to follow through on, no?
But let’s also be clear, Biden appointed the first Native Secretary of the Interior and signed the Inflation Reduction Act (the most significant climate legislation the US has ever had). Trump appointed Scott Pruitt to lead the EPA.
One will kill us slightly faster than the other. Great.
Brother he’s basically a war criminal the deliberate annihilation of the Republic by fascist dictators is already happening
Unlike that peace-lover Trump who only cares about the welfare of the Palestinian people, right?
My criticism of Biden is totally my endorsement of trump for sure
Do you have the name of a third person who has a chance of being elected in 2024?
Also I came back to say this. How do you not see Biden and Trump being our only feasible options as inherently undemocratic? People only like them in comparison to the other. We should not be forced to choose between two objective evils. Are you so resigned to stagnation that you think continuing to enforce a system that exploits is the best option?
? So I should just love Biden? I don’t understand what you mean. I never said anything about voting did I?
Centrists falsely interpret all criticism of Biden as support for Trump. It’s dishonest.
And realists know that bashing Biden with no nuance, as these comments are doing, does nothing but benefit Republicans.
Then what you’re telling us is there is no opportunity for improvement… Clinton was 30 years ago and Biden is to the right of Clinton. Three decades of “incremental progress” has gotten us nowhere.
Centrists just want everyone to their left and only their left to shut up.
interpret all criticism of Biden as support for Trump
When you don’t vote, therefore allowing Trump to win the election…then yeah.
Equating the above with “all criticism” is what’s dishonest. Plenty of people criticize Biden who voted for him once, and they are still voting for him again. But you know that. We might not like him but believe it or not, we dislike fascism even more. Crazy, I know.
You misspelled Russia.
Maybe pay attention to what’s actually happening rather than just repeating what other people say about him.
Biden is continuing to seek (and find) pathways to forgiving student loan debt, despite the Supreme Court ruling against his program. Millions of people have had their loans forgiven since that decision, and it seems more are getting it every day.
Anyone who thinks he’s senile or incoherent should listen to the interview he did on Conan O’Brien’s podcast that was released the other day. I was surprised that it went so well, and Biden was far more lucid than I’ve ever seen Trump.
I don’t think he’s senile, I just think he’s out of touch. It’s hard to be in touch as an 80-some year old man.
Doesn’t matter, over half won’t be voting. Even less than normal if GOP state legislatures do away with mail in ballots or automatic mailed request forms from COVID times.
The less people who vote the more elections Republicans win.
Make sure your friends go vote (unless they’re trumpeter assholes maybe, then don’t talk about it).
Less young people voting is a direct result of the national DNC’s deeply infuriating tactic of promising a fuckton of stuff and then just abandoning those goals and… “compromising” with the GOP every single fucking time the chips are down. And here, “compromise” is pronounced “submit to”, because most Democrats have the neurological inability to understand that these days the GOP will betray them simply on principle, or because one GOP rep wants to tweet something so they can “troll the libs”. And then we all suffer for it.
We all fucking understand the stakes here. The DNC is actively pushing young voters away by using such a deeply cynical strategy and then thinking we’ll forget all about that stupidity the next time an election comes around. From where a lot of young people are standing, it looks a lot like a choice between “actively bad” and “passively bad”, and it’s hard to give a fuck about that, especially if you’re already struggling with other shit in your life, like most of our generation is to one degree or another.
Don’t get me wrong - I vote in every single election I can. But the amount of deeply, fundamentally uninspiring or even actively bad candidates I feel I’m forced to vote for, simply because they’re not a neo-Nazi or a member of the GOP is not small. And to all you vOTe fOr a ThiRD pArTY types out there: you and I both know that’s a great way to hand elections to the GOP, given how our shitty electoral system works.
The party is absolutely taking advantage of how bad their opponents have become. Democratic party leadership has regarded the left of the party with such withering contempt for so long, and then they wonder why the left resents them.
It’s super frustrating, because while I still think it’s possible to move the DNC in a more reliably progressive direction, it’s abundantly clear all the fossils in charge of the party have no intention whatsoever of going in that direction, so we either need to force them out or wait for them to die.
And in the meantime, the planet is warming and the fascists they keep “compromising” with only need to win once.
Less than 50% voter turnout is a sign of a healthy democracy /s
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In what way?
Should I have added a /s ? My bad lmao, that’s on me
This is obviously sarcasm lol
Sharkfucker420, fuckin awesome username lol. Is this a joke or no?
This is a joke lol, added a /s for clarity
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I feel quite confident that the comment you’re responding to is an example of deadpan humor.
Yeah these polls always being in terms like “registered voters” or “likely voters”. Where as they really should poll “eligible to vote” instead to get full picture of the societal political mood situation.
