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‘FUCK SPEZ’: Reddit Users Unite to Turn r/Place Mural Into a Protest::Reddit’s collaborative art project seemingly has one overarching message to Reddit’s CEO.
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THAT WILL TEACH HIM!
Surely.
I think insulting is the wrong way. It’s just a level that I am disappointed to see people lower themselves to.
I see it as pointless and potential risks tarnishing the image that third party apps helped improve reddit (especially to normies/non techies who only use the official app and website).
What I don’t get is what will damaging the ipo achieve now that a lot of 3rd party apps are toast (Apollo, rif, reddit sync). Even if spez or reddit as a whole did a full 180 nothing would change on the prospect of 3rdparty apps.
Only thing reddit can change is improving the first party app and mod tools (given their stance was the api was never meant for 3rdparty apps after flip flopping).
As a user you have more or less 5 options:
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completely switch to Lemmy (or similar alternative).
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use the official reddit app and deal with it
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use social media less (pull the plug overall per say)
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Use a paid subscription 3rd party app (example infinity for reddit
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use a modded version of 3rdparty apps with custom api or the official reddit app modded (ex vanced)
I hope this comment doesn’t come of too corporate or shill like
I’m speculating, but at this point I don’t think the remaining Reddit protesters are doing this with the goal of having Spez reverse course. My guess is that they know its a lost cause, and are just operating out of spite, i.e. you destroyed something I care about (reddit) so I’m going to destroy something you care about (willingness of advertisers to participate in a hostile platform).
From a practical perspective I totally agree though. Frankly, this whole debacle has made me realize that I stopped actually enjoying Reddit in like 2017 - there was just nothing good to move to before the explosion of Lemmy this year.
Yes Reddit was in the advantageous position of being “it”. People promoting spez hate must realize they’re never going to get Reddit back. They’re just doing it out of spite for losing something. The best protest is to just move on and forget about them.
Like when any relationship collapses. . . “The best revenge is living well.”
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Same here.
From where I sit, these people should simply abandon Reddit, rather than fuel its popularity.
While I also like to watch a slowmo trainwreck from a distance, we should be focusing on building our new home. The foundations are already here, but everything else is still absent.
Aye.
Developing new approach and mindset to data sharing and online culture would be great. Unfortunately, plenty of people insist on making this place Reddit, with all its wrong aspects… 😑
U/SPEZ IST EIN HURENSOHN!
This is the first time in my life im actually proud to be german lol
Oh come on, Germany is a beautiful, civilized country.
Yes it is … based on neo-colonialist exploitation, subordinating nature to industry and outsourcing the most toxic industry to other continents. Pretty hard to enjoy the privilege when you know it comes from making other peoples lives worse. I will never be a good patriot, sorry no sorry.
How can you not be patriotic when you have so good doner kebab?! I live kinda near Köln and there is a kebab place near the Belgian quartier, mem-et, and I regularly think about it because it’s so good.
In order to make something good you must have a clear vision of how it truly is. That means recognising it’s negatives but also allowing space to recognise it’s positives to. Germany is not entirely good or bad. Even if you feel it is largely or overall bad, if you want it to be good you must celebrate and support where it is good to nurture those positives.
I definitely celebrate the great individual freedom here compared to other countries.
I went to Germany years ago, and I loved the great individual freedom to drink beer… Drank so much I don’t remember much else about the trip though lol 😂
Username does not check out …
Huh? 😂
Freiersohn then
Efforts ought to be focused more on redirecting people to / advertising Lemmy. Any entailed increase in DAUs for Reddit would be, ultimately, temporary.
We tried, but even that was heavily resisted like the traffic of twenty people is going to make a difference to anyone
Thank you for your service. Is this still ongoing somewhere? Also, looks like the .ml domains are back up again!
you can join the matrix room here https://matrix.to/#/!hiNoQZCxnHSsATzzmo:data.haus
It’s not easy to advertise the fediverse because the choices easily overwhelm people. Just like email, what needs to happen to thrive is for large providers to appear such that there’s like 4 big options to choose from and then the bunch of small options for those that want to look deeper.
Why do people even participate after all this mess
Because they’re hopeful they can save the site through activism. What they forget is that they are not protesting a government, they are trying to stop a corporate entity from fulfilling it’s legal obligations to make money for it’s investors.
Hey spez, screw you!
Why do they want to save the site? The leadership deserves to see it die.
isnt the point of the whole skizm to kill it? (site and IPO)
It’s kinda cozy on lemm.ee, I like it
Btw, do you guys also have JSON error when you try to upload some files for like a banner or something? Or is it just me?
Nah, I had the same issue too. It turned out to be the size of the banner, but I went through trial and error to get the right size because I couldn’t find any lemmy documentation for what the right size is.
What is the right size?
There’s nothing wrong with Reddit trying to be profitable. It should be profitable.
Apollo and Reddit Is Fun even had large subscriber bases willing to pay up to support our usage.
Reddit leadership is just really shitty. That is just the reality. Even if they wanted to be profitable, Spez simply doesn’t know how to get there.
there is a problem, in the same way your cat pees on your rug to mark territory, its instincts for marking are too strong and its higher reasoning is too weak to stop it. its when capitalism being an instinct, takes over higher brain functions is it a problem.
No, community-owned efforts like Lemmy and Debian exist precisely because neither corporations nor governments are fit to run them.
I think using the site you’re protesting against is peak slacktivism
And yet this is probably good for reddit. They live on amount of engagement and you dummies just fell for it.
You can’t spend engagement. It’s not real.
But you can convince advertisers to give you money based on how much engagement the site gets and therefore how much engagement their ads are likely to get. ~Cherri
The admins can push whatever stupid numbers they want. People were not somehow tricked into giving the site a second wind, by turning this desperate exploitation of a beloved icon into a vulgar billboard against the fucker selling us out, or by dumping all the soon-to-be-stolen awards onto comments asking what the fuck he thinks he’s doing.
The nature of bad faith is that there is no right answer. Any response, including no response, will be twisted around and treated as victory, because the person being condemned for making shit up gets to make shit up. There are no circumstances where they don’t go “Ah-HA!” There is no point scolding people for not doing the thing that would stop this, because that thing does not exist. People who care what’s real just have to deal with it and act in spite of it.
Reddit has the worst per-user stats of any social media site, by an order of magnitude… and the bump in engagement here is bluntly saying it’s time to leave.
Exactly, I’m fully expecting the admins to wipe out any undesirable things off the wall the second the timer runs out. And that’s the wall they’ll show to their investors.
If you run an ad blocker and no ads turn up when you browse , they they won’t get ad money from you. Negating the value of engagement.
You went there, generated content for them which is generating publicity. Other people, without ad blockers, are going there to see it …
The point of opening it this early again was to garner traffic. Don’t go there at all. It would have been best if only mods and corpo shills were placing pixels.
If you want to take a peek without sending traffic to them then there is a YouTube livestream of r/place.
This 100%. Engagement to show your protest is still engagement. Give Reddit your absence.
I wish I did this. I went to check if there were any signs of the protest and couldn’t help but contribute to one of the “fuck spez” signs
I then realized that place already felt kind of overdone last time they did it, this time it just feels completely meaningless
Place is cool when its people just working together to draw things. What is not cool is the corpo bots instantaneously placing their logo and people fucking with the art outside of the given rules to users. That ruins it completely.
we can do one thing, pretend like a lot of the engagement is fake, being a chill for myself real quick
My response to this was to delete my modded Sync and transition fully to Lemmy. Done dabbling.
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As much as I’ve been enjoying Lemmy and really like it as a platform, I don’t think any of this this is fine because there are just too many niche communities that are either unwilling or unable to just pick up and move, which means that in practice to the extent that I only participate here and not on Reddit I am missing out on a lot of content that I used to look forward to.
This was actually how the internet was before Reddit as well.
People move and adapt. Reddit wasn’t always the shining beacon of communities you think it currently is.
Activity Pub is a clear improvement over Reddit, and separating from Spez’s incompetence is a bonus.
Reddit wasn’t always the shining beacon of communities you think it currently is.
You are putting words into my mouth that I did not speak nor do I think; I have only pointed out that there are communities on Reddit that do not have a strong presence here whose absence I miss.
People move and adapt.
While I hope you are correct in this case, this is not always true. Sometimes good things are simply lost.
Activity Pub is a clear improvement over Reddit, and separating from Spez’s incompetence is a bonus.
I agree, which is why I have shifted the vast majority of the time I spent on Reddit here instead.
Edit: Ah, lovely, a downvote without a reply. Glad to see that the Lemmy community is such a dramatic improvement over the Reddit community. :-)
Some people want it all and they want it now. No patience to help build a better tomorrow when there’s a shitty today they can have.
That is true of most people. Those aren’t the ones that matterfor building something new and will migrate eventually. It’s always been a minority of users who do the heavy lifting of establishing thriving communities and those peoplez by definition, are the ones who are willing to roll their sleeves up and do that work on a new platform when the old one stops working for them.
I actually find it kind of freeing. With Reddit I kept scrolling in hopes of finding something interesting through one of those niche communities, with Lenny I find myself doomscrolling a lot less
I get it, and that is a totally valid experience that you and probably many other people have had, but I personally never considered myself to be doomscrolling when seeing what was new with the Haskell programming language, going through what crazy experience people have had playing Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup lately, learning from the the really insightful in-depth explanations of history that were posted to AskHistorians, and so on. I do not consider the subtraction of these things from my life to have ultimately been a benefit, it just makes me feel less in the loop about the things that I care about.
I’ve seen some people talking about how the lemmy developers are planning for the ability to “group” communities (of the same name or something like that) on different instances together.
I’m taking this as those communities then forming one community that doesn’t have to rely on a single instance’s community to “survive”.
Haven’t put too much thought into this but I think that would at least lessen that problem, especially for new niche subjects popping up. The difficulty for existing niche communities starting anew here will probably remain but I’m hopeful for the future.That does sound like a reason to be hopeful for the future. Thank you for telling me about this.
Me too, I’ll engage for around 15-30 minutes then go and do some writing rather than spend 4 hours doom scrolling.
I’ve legit got so much work done it staggers the mind.
I stopped using Reddit completely on July first, and in that time I’ve got a reflective log completed and submitted, a report on disruptive fintech completed a week early and submitted and now a mini dissertation completed 2 weeks early.
It’s almost as if spending my time doing coursework is better than freaking out trying to finish it and submit to turnitin 30 seconds before the deadline while praying the connection doesn’t fail.
Anyway…
We all use social media in different ways. For me, I use it primarily as a relatively mindless activity I can engage in when my brain is too tired to do something that I actually care about. For example, at work I often write comments when I am stuck or feeling burned out, and taking the time to rest in this way helps my brain recover and often after a while the solution to my problem pops into my head and I can proceed.
Who could have foreseen this?
Maybe Lemmy should change their icon to this mural /s
“API change is not a big deal, look how many people logged in last week”
How many?
Probably at least, like, twelve or more
That gets an upvote.
You mention downvotes? Believe it or not, reduce. You mention upvotes, also reduce. We have the best comments in the world because of reduce.
It worked!
tree fiddy
That gets an upvote
Thank you, kind stranger. (yes, that was a redfuck reference, deal with it. MUAHAA-HAA)
Nooooo.
Okay.
WELL it was about that time that I realized Frisbeedude wasn’t just a poster, but was about eight stories tall and was a crustacean from the Protozoic era.
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Spez is just a scapegoat. He’s supported by his board, which would continue this path with or without him as the “leader”.
Best protest would be if people didn’t obsess over clicking pixels in r/place, giving the site traffic. I can’t stand these people.
causing users to suggest that Reddit admins are interfering with their art (there is no evidence so far that would prove this)
If you watch the time lapse, you’ll see that the guillotine was wiped away in an instant, which would either require mass coordination or admin privileges. There’s also the fact that it was removed in chunks, not pixel-by-pixel. Also, it was proven last year that one of the mods didn’t have a cooldown.
Reddit has been thrown into chaos because the company began charging for access to its API
No, it’s because they began charging an amount that isn’t affordable to third-party app developers and with very little notice. They also lied about being willing to work with developers and they made false allegations against Apollo’s developer.
Actually it’s because he’s a pissbaby
In some of the screenshots, it’s clear that a brush is being used by the uniform distribution of pixels in the same size/pattern in multiple areas.
I don’t really think the admins are concerned about concealing their actions anymore. They’re just trying to cashout on a sinking dumpster fire while its valuation plummets.
Ya all weird as heck. People who decided to not leave reddit because that’s still their main content provided try to vent their anger in any possible way. And while there’s no thing like bad PR, according to the saying, the truth is that media coverage is underlining bad management from reddit side and how uncooperative it’s users became (they literally fight administration at this point ). So while reddit may have gained numbers in interaction, I don’t believe potential investors can simply omit all these news and quite evident burning of company.
I’d say if they ain’t gonna leave, doing this is the second best thing. Keep it up, redditors, keep it up.
