• I Cast Fist
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    142 years ago

    We’re still nowhere near making space travel as easy as taking a cruise ship.

    • @[email protected]
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      62 years ago

      It seems to me we’re actually close in terms of esse, just not cost or risk. Risk will likely stay high, cost may go slightly down, but will never reach cruise ship levels unless you already find yourself in space. Accelerating a massive cruise ship in space is far easier when it doesn’t have to leave Earth’s gravity well.

    • @[email protected]
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      122 years ago

      More like why civil rights still arent a thing even though we passed a law in the mid 60s about it.

  • @[email protected]
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    I’m going to go on a different angle on this one and say that we are much tougher on sexual harassment. I feel like a lot of people from the 1950s who have grown up on pulp sci-fi like Flash Gordon could accept a lot of modern technology and the internet as basically just magic. To be fair is how a lot of modern people also accept it. But I don’t think they would be able to process the move towards egalitarianism that we have taken.

    That is not to say that modern society is egalitarian only that we have made good strides in achieving that aim.

    Edit: Turns out Gordon is from the '70s, but other pulp sci-fi exist so my statement stands.

    • @[email protected]
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      322 years ago

      Edit: Turns out Gordon is from the '70s, but other pulp sci-fi exist so my statement stands.

      Live action Flash Gordon was from the 50s

  • @[email protected]
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    132 years ago

    The internet. Youd first have to explain computers, and thats not easy. Going further just compounds the issue.

    • @[email protected]
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      342 years ago

      This thing does math really really fast.

      Cause it does math fast, we can use math to have it draw pictures like how you plot a graph.

      These picture drawing math machines also talk to each other like a really fast phone call, all the time. So we can transfer pictures and words between them.

      Also it makes phone calls but it doesn’t need a cable.

      Also the pictures it can send are slowly eroding the foundations of our society like tides against a cliff, and we all feel the ground getting thinner beneath our feet, but if we turn off the water, like 5 people will be marginally less rich. And having 5 slightly less obscenely rich people is deemed unacceptable in our increasingly surreal society.

      I think that’s a pretty good explanation for a person from the 50s

  • SeaJ
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    212 years ago

    That shitty actor from Bedtime for Bonzo becomes president.

  • @[email protected]
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    272 years ago

    That we’ve been to the moon - in there 60s - but haven’t been back or been out further. I think it would just be against all their expectations.

    • @[email protected]
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      12 years ago

      There were several places in the media that had stories of landing on the moon as a real possibility. Almost a forgone conclusion.

      • @[email protected]
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        142 years ago

        I believe that the area of disbelief would be that we just… stopped.

        Unmanned space exploration is amazing, and we’ve done a ton in LEO, but we haven’t put a person out past the Hubble telescope since Apollo 17, which was 1972 if I remember correctly.

        • NaN
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          I think it would depend who they were and what/who they knew. Political will wasn’t all that great for the moon, Kennedy even invited Russia to make it a joint venture multiple times more or less to save face while splitting the costs (in the 60s, but still). If Kennedy hadn’t been assassinated there’s a very good chance it wouldn’t have happened when it did and it would be seen as Kennedy’s folly or something.

          So someone in the late 50s who was familiar with the actual feelings around budgets and such, might not be so surprised.

        • @[email protected]
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          42 years ago

          “Yeah, we went there a few times, there was nothing there besides a bunch of rocks. We brought some back for study, and spent the next few decades on more obviously productive pursuits. Like putting robots on Mars!”

    • @[email protected]
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      122 years ago

      Brown v. Board of Education was filed in 1951, and decided in 1954. The desegregation movement was well underway. Some folks from that era might not be happy that segregation went away, but I don’t imagine too many would be surprised.

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      -72 years ago

      What a dumb answer that completely ignores that was a topic of debate at that time. The concept and topic was WELL known. 17 upvotes 🤦‍♂️.

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    We walk around with a little rectangle in our pocket that gives us access to the sum total of human knowledge, but we mostly use it for looking at funny captioned pictures, the same pictures over and over just with different captions.

    It’s called a phone but no one ever uses it as one.

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      142 years ago

      Also, the “video telephone” that everyone always so desperately awaited from the future? Yeah, we have that; no, nobody uses it, because we can’t be bothered to dress up for a phone call.

      • @[email protected]
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        52 years ago

        Tell that to the tonnes of people that facetious in public but neither them nor the person they are calling are actually in frame

      • @[email protected]
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        72 years ago

        I also thought no one used facetime until I worked retail recently… The amount of people I saw come in on a facetime calls where they both just had their cameras pointed at the ceiling was bizarre and boggling.

    • @[email protected]
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      22 years ago

      That pretty much sums it up.

      The phone never leaves my side, but I dread getting an actual phone call.

  • @[email protected]
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    2322 years ago

    I’m just going to steal the response I read years ago.

    “I possess a device, in my pocket, that is capable of accessing the entirety of information known to man. I use it to look at pictures of cats and get into arguments with strangers.”

    • @[email protected]
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      282 years ago

      This does make me think. I remember the days where I would turn up at the library to read books. With my phone, I can read and learn but instead I doom scroll.

      • Apathy Tree
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        152 years ago

        I combine the two. I doomscroll looking for things to read and learn about, which enhances the doom significantly!

      • @[email protected]
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        12 years ago

        I find I’m involved in a combination of doom scrolling and reading through my digital books. They’re not academic in nature but they bring me joy… I also leverage my device for googling the answer to any one of the thousand questions my offspring will ask daily.

    • Nioxic
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      12 years ago

      I dont think that is imdifficult to explain…

      But HOW it works… ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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        I don’t know if the Internet has made folks dumber per se. What we may be experiencing is the visibility of semi anonymous unfiltered thought. I’ve had conversations with individuals online who have made claims that are egregiously incorrect and will defend those claims to the death but when discussed in person, they are amenable to discourse and can change their opinions.

        I’m not saying this is true for all cases but I think the is a lot more going on here in our digital age.

        Edit: removed an embarrassing typo.

        • @[email protected]
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          Nah, I’m sure it hasn’t. It just seems like it has.

          Part of it is the fact that it’s easier for people speak freely to an audience, and…maybe some of them shouldn’t…

          There’s also the fact that it’s a lot easier to consider oneself an expert. For better or worse, respect for authority has plummeted, and there’s so much information that anybody can find citations for just about any claim.

          If you don’t believe me, I can link you to some articles about it…

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      I’ve started l to realize that actual information worth reading is not available. Like I cant access in depth medical course or text book in engineering. Lots of beginner tutorials marketed as 7 minute abs.

      Information is valuable and nobody gives it away for free. We have access to a worlds worth of crappy, unvetted trash information. But the vast majority of the good stuff is still locked away as it always was.

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        Between Libgen and SciHub I’m interested in hearing an example of what you can’t find out there.

      • @[email protected]
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        122 years ago

        Does MIT not have open courses anymore? Besides that I wonder what you are looking for? I can find free scientific papers to improve my hobbies, watch along as professionals explain and do their jobs, graduate level math and computer science videos from the comfort of my home. As a student around 2000 (Google existed, barely) it was not so easy, even with access to university library you still had to find what you were looking for with worse tools and there was less of it. And who on earth was going to take the time to show you exactly how it worked their lab a thousand miles away? Once a week you could go to a seminar and a visiting scientist gives a slideshow. It’s better now.

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          62 years ago

          Opencourseware is great. But what they’re a rarity instead of the norm. I think Stanford posted lectures for a bit too. Good sources of information exist. Just like there is research we all can access but there’s not as much as it appears without having to resort to piracy.

          It became clearer to me when writing and researching topics. I still had to go to the university library and pour through books. Because that quality of information in their library is not there online. The internet didn’t replicate that knowledge. It gave us a surface level blog about topics. Don’t get me wrong. I know there’s lots of blogs and people giving in depth research for free on their speciality. But its still not a good source of knowledge like exists in academic libraries.

        • @[email protected]
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          52 years ago

          As an oncology researcher, to do my job I have to pay approximately $30-60 per article for about half the articles in my 1500 article library for my CAR cell therapy research.

          The scientific field is slowly improving over the last 10 years, but it still sucks, and I can only read the abstract for free, which doesn’t provide enough details for my layperson research on topics like behavior or autophagy.

          I’m one of the lucky few that has an institutional subscription, and most companies don’t pay for institutional subscriptions. Also, I can’t, as someone suggested, hack into the University wifi which is a half hour away and still do my job onsite.

        • @[email protected]
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          12 years ago

          Most of the courses at MIT are free. Most information is free these days in fact. The world has never had access to more free knowledge.

      • @[email protected]
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        Wow not my experience at all. Fkn amazing access to nearly anything I want and I’ve been a programmer electronics tech, car hacker whatever and the resources available to me is AWESOME! And I’ve posted 5000 pages onycown website.

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        32 years ago

        Like I cant access in depth medical course or text book in engineering

        Why not? The common ‘hack’ is to join the wifi at your local uni if you don’t have the necessary subscriptions for the platform but lots of stuff is open-access

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          That’s true but what I meant was that when I went to school it opened my eyes to how there is internet information and then there’s this other academic information. My own opinion is that I see a distinction between what I can learn online vs what I can learn with a text book. The internet is good at making me think I’m getting this massive access to knowledge when its really more superficial factoids rather than actually knowledge. And that’s because knowledge is sold like anything else

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                Since you mentioned you went to a school already (and assuming you meant some kind of post-secondary school); I do think it’s outrageous that some schools limit full library access to only the time one is completing their studies. Lots of former students would benefit and since anyone with access through their employers is likely using the employer’s library access, I can’t imagine former students would significantly increase the cost of maintaining database access…

                I got lucky and still have access through the alumni association at my uni, but I don’t believe that’s true at all schools.

              • SkaveRat
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                depends a bit on the text book and library, but yes. that’s kind of the point of university libraries (which you normally can also visit, as far as I am aware)

                In fact, I just checked: my local uni library will give you a membership card for only a handful of bucks a year