For context I’m in the US. The last time I used YouTube without an ad blocker, there were 2 ads back to back, and way too frequently. I tried watching on my PlayStation tonight, and not only are they more frequent, they’ve increased in quantity by 150%. It’s also very common for the last ad to last 2 minutes to over an hour long. What the actual fuck, why would anyone watch YouTube without an ad blocker at this point? It’s literally unwatchable
Edit: the amount of unsolicited advice in the comments is unreal. I don’t get ads on my phone or on desktop, I’m very aware of how to block them. I simply won’t watch YouTube on my PlayStation anymore. I’m not looking for suggestions, please stop with the recommendations.
I have a theory that they want you to get so annoyed that you suck it up and pay for premium.
Instead, I decreased my YouTube consumption, turned on my adblocker for low-quality content, or content from an unmonetized creator, or content showing something technically illegal (game OSTs or a motorcycle review involving going 2x the speed limit), and donated to some patreons and purchased a year of Nebula.
I use revanced and ublock origin and I haven’t seen ads in an entire year, I completely forgot how bad it is
OP, I know exactly what you’re talking about.
I was visiting relatives this Christmas and wanted to watch some of my YouTube videos on their SmartTV. I have watched YouThe with ads on occasion throughout the years…usually when watching some video on a relative’s device or school or work computer or something. They are annoying, but mostly fairly manageable. So I started up a 20 minute vid from a youtuber I like.
I shit you not…within the first 5 fucking minutes of the video, there were 5 separate ad breaks. And each ad was going to play for minutes on end if I never hit the skip button.
Yep, you read that right. One ad per minute. I am NOT exaggerating. I counted them and watched the video timestamps.
I almost could not believe what I was seeing. My mind was fucking blown. Never have I ever experienced that egregious level of ads. It made the content I was trying to view literally unwatchable and I switched off the video.
To OP, I’d highly recommend getting an Android tv device like a modern Chromecast (not the old models…needs to run android). They are relatively inexpensive and make viewing content on TVs a sane experience. I think I maybe got mine for $40 or something. Install SmartTube Next and you’ll have no ads. Works fantastic. You set it up once and never worry about it again.
I really appreciate your response
I don’t even use my tv for a tv. I just hook up my laptop to play games. If I wanna watch movies, shows, or videos I got my jellyfin client and youtube is ad free with ubo and firefox
I’m in Morocco, I keep getting actual music videos as my ads now. And they’re all from the lamest artists that always appear on the radio anyway.
Quick PSA: they don’t currently block VPNs, so you can sign up for an account in a cheap country (I picked Nigeria) and use a foreign currency debit card (I use Revolut) to get Premium for like £1.50 a month for my entire family.
If they close that loophole then I think I’ll be done with it, the ads make it basically unusable these days.
Worst case scenario you end up with a vacant piece of screen real estate with a failed to load asset.
Bruh, Adblock. Vanced.
There are ways.
You lack reading comprehension
I always wondered but, do pi-holes work on consoles/smart TVs?
They should for most purposes. YT has started to try and make it much harder to block their ads, which I think has made Pihole ineffective for that.
Connecting the Pi up to the TV and using it as the player should be an option.
Wouldnt buy a pi for that tho, but if it could make all youtube in my house ad free it wouldve been awesome, sad
Local AdBlock (UBlock Origin) should be fine for anything browser based. It’s really only consoles and smart TVs, where you ‘own’ the hardware but have no control over the software.
If ads are served on a separate domain, then pihole blockers still work on consoles/smart TVs
But mostly all ad-supported video streaming services realized that if they serve ads from ads.example.com and content from content.example.com, then it’s trivial to have an adfree experience by just blocking ads.example.com.
So, YouTube ads URLs are made to be indistinguishable from YouTube video URLs from just watching network traffic, or in Pluto tv the ads are directly embedded in the stream
too bad
Pihole works network-wide.
Bruh. PlayStation.
No AdBlock, no vanced. There are no ways.
My dude are you browsing Lemmy on your PlayStation?
Grab a chromecast HDMI stick and just stream it from your phone. There are ways.
Pihole. It’s a hardware device that plugs into your router and blocks traffic to known advert domains.
It works network-wide, so this works even on non-standard platforms like Playstation.
Like the above poster said, there are ways. Just not the ones they suggested.
Doesn’t work when the ads and content are served from the same domain.
Pihole doesn’t do absolutely anything against YouTube ads as they use the same domains for ads and videos.
If you tell pihole to block the domain from where YouTube ads are served, then you effectively blocked all YouTube videos
Ah it doesn’t work for YouTube? That’s a bum :(
I think it’s even by accident, wasn’t carefully engineered to block the DNS ad blockers, but just that, since the beginning, all YouTube ads are just links to videos on the advertiser account.
It’s also a reason why sometimes you get an irritating 5 minute trap video as an ad: that channel is inflating their view counter on their music video by just paying YouTube for extra views
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Same for me on Chromecast, it’s pretty much unwatchable overnight, started probably about a week ago. I’m to lazy to set up adblocking for my full network, and I was fine watching the skippable 15s ads, and the occasional longer ones, but currently I mostly get at least a full minute of ads on my TV.
Get the SmartTube app for Chromecast and you don’t need to set up anything
Neat, thank you for the hint - only recently got a ccwgtv, and I’m still not used to the fact that you’re able to install apps like this 😂
Revanced Extended.
You guys get ads?
5+ ads each being 3-5 min long.
I was in India and the ads were straight up music videos…
I stream through Roku (great for plex but no way to block ads on YouTube) and the ads got so bad I paid for premium.
I hate it because I’m reinforcing their shitty business choices but it was like being bullied everyday. YouTube is all I really use for entertainment aside from plex so that’s been one silver lining.
If you run a pihole, you can have it block youtube ads network-wide.
Did you try it?
From a technical point of view, YouTube ads are YouTube videos. So from a DNS point of view, you can’t block one but still continue to watch the other
Not on a tv you can’t. They host ads on the same domain the videos are on, so blocking ads blocks the actual content as well.
No you can’t, unless you block all of YouTube network wide.
Call me insane but I pay for youtube premium. People have NO problem paying for netflix/hulu/amazon/HBO and whatever else but theres a large amount of people who wont even consider paying for Youtube( presumably because the adblocking options are relatively easy to install and use, especially on desktop)
Youtube premium and it is BY FAR the best value in entertainment for me. I watch videos on it multiple hours a day sometimes (in the background while Im doing housework or whatever) No ads for me or my kids, more money to creators, Its like $12/month or something and with that I also get a music service thats - for me - better than spotify/apple/napster or anything else really.
Theres a reason theres no completely free tier on the other services, and its because supporting things with ads alone takes lots and lots of ads. If you arent paying a dime for the service its tough to take your complaints seriously about how many ads there are, becaus you are getting the content FREE, thus you pay with your time and attention
Call me insane but people have NO problem paying for netflix/hulu/amazon/HBO and whatever else but theres a large amount of people who wont even consider paying for Youtube
Because Netflix/Hulu/HBO/etc hosts TV shows that are expensive to make. YouTube hosts various types of content that is produced on shoestring budgets compared to TV shows.
Just because someone would pay to watch The Boys or Game of Thrones doesn’t mean they’d pay to watch Let’s Plays.
Thats an interesting point, but I think a very, very small percentage of people are actively thinking about how much the content they are enjoying costs to make when they are factoring in if its worth paying for. Enjoyment is the number 1 metric by a country mile.
If an expensive show is shit to watch or listen to, no one is going to pay for it. You couldnt pay me to watch Battlefield Earth again for example, I dont care how expensive it was to make.
True, but no one is going to pay for content with production values barely above tiktok videos - which is what most of YouTube’s most famous content is.
There’s also the fact that YouTube is more of a social media outlet than a content creator. Its content comes from people and organisations experimenting and assuming all risks for themselves. YouTube isn’t commissioning works (bar one or two notable exceptions) and the biggest risks they assume is storage space holding dud content.
Streaming services actually create, or at least license, the content they host. That costs significant sums. Therefore it makes sense for them to be paid services. YouTube itself doesn’t create or license shit.
True, but no one is going to pay for content with production values barely above tiktok videos - which is what most of YouTube’s most famous content is.
Lots and lots and lots of people make bank “on youtube” because people sub to their patreons or buy their merch as a way to support the channel. I think you vastly underestimate what people are willing to spend on a creator whose community they feel apart of and whos content they like.
I think you vastly underestimate what people are willing to spend on a creator whose community they feel apart of and whos content they like.
Is that creator YT? No?
Do they share most of premium’s revenue with said creators? I’m guessing the answer is “none”
If you want to support a relevant creator that’s your choice… but it’s highly unlikely that creator benefits from you going premium,
Thats why I added in the bit of patreon and merch. The persons argument was that no one was going to pay for content that was cheap to make, which is patently absurd given the amount of people making a living off of merch/patreon type deals
Youtube ad revenue is split 55% with the creators - presumably its the same for premium - so yes it actually is “most” depending on how you want to define that.
True, but no one is going to pay for content with production values barely above tiktok videos - which is what most of YouTube’s most famous content is.
I don’t think of it as paying for the content, as much as just paying for an ad-free experience that doesn’t require maintenance on my end and still helps pay creators. I watch YouTube a lot, and on several devices that aren’t easy to adblock on, so I just pay for a family plan and none of my family has to see ads on any of their devices, either. I don’t think YouTube is really doing exclusive content anymore, so that’s not really a huge reason to subscribe.
YTP is one of the few “quality of life” subscriptions that I think is genuinely worth it, IMO.
This is wild… seeing someone in earnest putting hollywood on the same level as some dude in their garage. This is zero chance I would ever pay 1 cent for 100 video essays because they don’t entertain me and they don’t feel worth anything. On the other hand yes it makes full sense to me to pay under $10 a month to watch unlimited productions which clearly cost a lot to make. The costumes, writing, research, and everything else that go into an actually immersive experience cannot be compared to some dude reacting to Linus TT being shitty. I will never understand not appreciating the difference here. The shocking part is that your opinion isn’t even that unpopular. Blows my fucking mind… For some of you, the only things in the world required to make video entertainment is an opinion and a cheap cell phone. 🤯
Im not saying there isnt a difference, or that I dont appreciate it personally. Im saying there are plenty of people that DO pay for video essays or LTT and find them even more entertaining than Game of Thrones or whatever show you want to watch on HBO or Netflix, at least at certain times of day and in certain scenarios
there are plenty of people that DO pay for video essays or LTT and find them even more entertaining than Game of Thrones or whatever show you want to watch on HBO or Netflix,
This is exactly what my head is exploding about though.
I’ve been paying for premium for a while now as I get a ton of value out of it as well, and want to support creators. I watch youtube pretty much exclusively these days, besides the occasional (heh) piracy.
That being said - I am absolutely at the point where I am considering backing up all my subs and switching fully to newpipe. I already use revanced just to deal with their absolute nightmare of a UI - YT, I don’t EVER want to see your fucking shorts. Having to hear about them continually making it worse for everyone else makes me want to just leave for another platform… but sadly 99% of long form content is exclusively hosted on youtube, so there isn’t much of a choice.
Main issue is logging in with my main Google account. I don’t want my google data to be accessible in the house from the speaker or the tv or the tablet.
I could pay more by buying YouTube family (or whatever they call it today) and share it with a burner account but that would be ridiculous.
Also, I don’t want to even consider supporting them when they’re pushing their TikTok clone down my throat. Until the TikTok clone is baked in their app with their shitty videos mixed with regular content, then I’m forced to use alternative clients that remove all the short videos from my view.
That TikTok shit bothers me more than 1 minute of ads.
I think one of the moral (?) objections to paying for YouTube versus paying for streaming services is that a streaming service actually creates (some) original content whereas YouTube merely hosts other people’s content. YouTube is only a facilitator and (ironically) not a creator. All of its content (both original and unoriginal) is produced by money that isn’t YouTube’s. They take zero risk and expect maximum returns.
YouTube hosts millions upon millions upon millions of videos for free, and they set up and maintain the ad network that gets creators the money (55% of the ad revenue goes to them, 45% to youtube). That is the value they provide, not the content they create. They dont take a “risk” per se (anymore, that risk was taken in the beginning), but they are 100% outlaying resources to maintain the youtube network/experience at great expense so that people can create, host, and profit on their website with no risk to the creator except wasted time.
Obviously not a simple thing to do otherwise tons of websites would be doing the same thing and YouTube would have lots of competition, but they don’t because its actually a very resource intensive process that literally - and I mean literally as in literally - no other company is willing to take on.
There is no moral objection, unless you find funding Google in any way immoral.
Its a mutually beneficial relationship with YouTube and the Creators. Youtube has reduced the risk of spending money on content creation but takes on all the work of maintaining everything youtube offers, and the creators have reduced the risk of financial/commerical resources needed to make money on their product. Neither could exist withou the other
I mean, yeah that’s mostly all true; but you’re kind of missing the point. Alphabet created the ad-soaked centralised monopoly you describe. They obviously shut down Google Video pretty quickly after buying YouTube. They bought-out or strangled competitors, leveraging their SE dominance, to get to where they are now, which is offering small pockets of content scattered about in an advertising platform. Alphabet knew what kind of monster they wanted to create and set about doing it. More adverts equals more profit. Profit must increase year on year. That’s how it works. I don’t begrudge Alphabet trying to fleece everybody - it’s how capitalism operates. I just don’t buy into the “good old Google letting me watch stuff for (almost) free” mantra.
There is no moral objection, unless you find funding Google in any way immoral.
Yeah just that one little tiny exception that literally no one could agree with /s
I read your edit and thought “how bad could it be?”
I started reading the comments and it was way worse than I thought.
The most upvoted comments all display a great deal of “I only read 2 words of your original post” energy.
I didn’t bother with an adblocker until recently myself because I was okay with a couple of ads or mentioning sponsors.
Then, one day, the ads just multiplied on every video. It was that sudden for me. After a couple of days, I downloaded apps for my phone and TV and it’s been wonderful.
I’ll watch YT in all its horribleness on my consoles if I’m looking for something game-related and I don’t want to get up and grab my phone.,
I really appreciate your comment, and thank you for sharing your experience
easy fix: don’t use the app on your phone.
instead use youtube via your browser with adblock (for instance safari + adblock pro) and create a shortcut on your homescreen. you can use youtube just like in the app, you won’t have any ads and you also can play videos with your screen turned off
GrayJay or NewPipe for phones.
na don’t need no app
This is exactly what I do also, but it’s worth admitting that it’s not the same as the app. For one, I have to take care to open videos in new tabs, otherwise when I’m done and try to go back to my list, it starts me back at the top of the page rather than where I left off.
This should go in “VeryInfuriating”. I agree YouTube has become unwatchable without any kind of ad-block or cheap Premium
It’s become unwatchable with ad-block, too.
For me it still works (Germany, Linux+Firefox+ublock), but page loading takes forever, and knowing that that’s intentional just makes me not want to use it anymore. Feels like there’s a bouncer telling me to wait in line for watching a video.Have you tried this extension? https://add0n.com/useragent-switcher.html
