@zogwarg Bronze Age Empires:

Hittite
Minoan
Mycenaean (briefly but opportunistically picking up the very wet Minoan pieces after the Thera eruption & tsunami.)
Old Babylonia (i.e. not the Neo-Babylonians who revered that past)

Given their intermittent hegemony over Kush and Canaan, I don’t agree that Egypt doesn’t count as an empire. One can also make such a case for Zhou-era China, particularly before its splintering into the “Warring States” interregnum.

@zogwarg @dgerard Are you trying to tell me that a woman who was briefly shacked-up with renowned Super Brain Genius Elon Musk has what appears to amount to a child’s understanding of things?

oh I’ve found many fine sneers right there on LW, but I think this one is good enough for sheer prominence.

i would not assume Grimes was aware of things or had what could meaningfully be called political opinions

Talk a lot about white culture, and only scarcely mention that he thinks white culture is a product of genetics.

I remember in the early days of the “culture wars” as far as political agendas going, hearing about “white/ethno-european pride,” and being naively curious, I actually tried to engage these people on the topics of European culture and history, and found exactly zero engagement on these topics. Just politics abusing people’s confusion of heritage with people’s internal shame and lack of identity.

The paradox I’ve always found is that the more secure in your identity and heritage you are, the more happy you are to share, grow, and widen that. Maybe a hot take, but growing up in the south, alot of people there hide their personal internal shame and confusion in aggression and identity politics.

One of several, yeah

I’m just assuming it was in fact just a ridiculous take from a child throwing a tantrum because it makes the whole “I’m not a nazi, BUT…” bit that much more unprompted and funnier.

Like I know famous people get all kinds of bizarre shit on the internet but if some rando DM’d to call me a nazi I would simply choose not to let the public know I actually just love white culture.

alt girl amazes fans by posting on twitter in PERFECT nazi

The African slave trade of slavs? I think she means Arab. Or Arab/Muslim-osphere.

I wouldn’t think sub-Saharan Africans ran a lot of ships up to the Baltic or the Black Sea to capture slavs for enslavement. Ottomans, yes. Barbary pirates, perhaps. Of course some of the most prominent of the Barbary pirates were actually raised Christian or Jewish in Europe, and joined the pirates as adults.

And I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Europeans also captured slavs for sale to the Ottomans.

I mean, I get what her stupid ass is trying to say but all she is doing is showcasing white privilege. Only someone who lives and has lived a privileged life can unironically try to gloss over the systematic oppression or annihilation of entire groups of people, especially as it continues today.

Bringing up the ancient slav slave trade and pretend there is some sort of equivalence to ongoing repercussions of slavery in america is peak out of touch.

I remember reading a story where a solid boot-neo-Nazi idolised Zulu warriors, then finding out that idolising Zulu warriors was an OG Nazi thing

Hitler was pretty jealous of the Japanese ethnostate that came after decades of their trade embargos.

in contrast, I did not forsee the trajectory of Grimes’ views and personal life events after finding “Oblivion” to be a bop in 2012

Interesting point. I listen to virtually every kind of music that there is and my only interaction with Grimes has been to backspace over the “s” as I search for grime music like Manga Saint Hilaire or whatever. For a long time, Courtney Love was in this state for me, but I eventually listened to a little of her stuff.

Just wondering, since you’re proud of white culture. What positives do you attribute to white culture as opposed to some sort of economic or political culture?

extreme progressives agree there is a magic all encompassing definition of “whiteness”.

What do you mean by this? Speaking for myself, what I’ve read on the left with respect to “whiteness” has been largely critical of the concept, e.g. that it exists by its function to other and marginalize those deemed non-white. Who are you talking about on the left that affirms a non-reductive concept of whiteness? Because it sounds like you’re both-sides-ing out of ignorance.

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I understand how “white” become the word for a sort of assumed racial default, but it’s really annoying to have to play this weird motte-and-bailey when people don’t understand or pretend not to understand that whiteness is not about skin pigmentation and never was. Wanna check my skin on a Pantone chart againts Hitler’s and then guess which one of us he thought was merely an “honorary aryan”?

I wish we had a better word for it.

@mctoasterson @dgerard and it doesn’t even acknowledge the changing boundaries of “white”. The Irish weren’t white in America for decades. Jews weren’t white until post-wwii when “polite antisemitism “ became tainted and had to be discarded in the face of the civil rights movement.

@mctoasterson @dgerard the only thing white people have in common is high albedo.

Alphas think of the Roman Empire every day. Sigmas, however, think instead of Cyrus the Great.