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NGL… First glance at the chart I thought the left hand scale was temperature with a sudden spike to 250°… no wonder people are dying when your iced tea boils in your glass as you try to drink it!
If only we had some kind of warning?!? If only there was something we could do about it?!?
But my end of the boat is perfectly dry!
I tried praying, don’t look at me I did my part
I did both thoughts and prayers.
You forgot the Thoughts!!
Typical
dr. david suzuki pours himself another scotch and sighs.
Is there a source that doesn’t require me log into Twitter?
Here you are:
Courtesy of this Mastodon toot
Thanks. Some screenshot of a tweet isn’t a source, but what you posted was.
the screenshot says “Financial Times” at the bottom left and “Source: FT analysis of CDC WONDER” in the bottom right
Sir, this is a screenshot
Mr. Nixon may want to sneak into Twitter and see it for himself
We’re fucked bros
Hydrate!
Once the wet bulb temperature gets too high then conditions become lethal no matter how much you drink. This is happening more often.
Yeah I know. Can’t regulate sweating at that point and the body will start to frog boil. Hydrate was just a term drill sergeants would tell us when it was hot as hell. Someone military probably understood the reference.
I did, I understood the reference! Hooyah PT!
This graph also looks like the number of opioid deaths. I there is a jump of fentanyl deaths starting in 2010 and i wonder if this is related
I looked up news articles after seeing the graph. Seems to be more about elderly and homeless. People touching knobs or falling on the concrete and receiving burns is a thing, but it’s trending way up. Like 83C concrete… crazy hot.
The only reason why i said opioid is that i wss thinking people who live on the streets who are one something dont feel shit. Elderly makes sense too.
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Only another 100 years or so until maybe temperatures come back down.
Maybe.
Once we are all dead and can no longer emit carbon dioxide?
No, there is a definite decomposition process that will see some heavy emissions.
Fortunately no. (Maybe fortunately).
The last IPCC climate change report predicted that shits gonna get real fucking bad for a while, but at the rate we’re going it should at least turn around sometime between 80 to 100 years.
Is there feasibly anything we can do to shorten that time? Even if it’s on a catastrophic/behemoth level of change/effort? Or is this just how it is?
The obvious answer is yes.
We could shut of all fossil fuel usage tomorrow except for where it’s needed (eg a single generator to kick start a countries power grid if things actually go down) and make a painful hard switch to renewables. We could begin using renewable energy sources to start extracting CO2 from the atmosphere.
I don’t know and can’t speak to how effective that would be, from memory the earth would continue to warm for some time to come even on their optimistic predictions.
At this point any time a politician denies the climate catastrophe we’re entering we should just shoot them. I’m sick to death with this gerontocracy where no one takes any responsibility.
But… but without those heroic political figures, how will mega-corporations be allowed to continue maximizing profits.
This type of shortsighted ignorance is what causes drops economic growth and allows communism to win.
…. I’m being told that it’s now trans people, not communists that are the real threat.
…. No, no wait it’s still communists. So both I guess?
/s
Between literal apocalyptic scenarios and open fascism, it’s hard not to picture the trolley problem. But we’re forced to pretend everyone’s acting in good faith. Like if we just try harder, words will work, all of a sudden.
At some point we’re telling people not to “escalate” to violence against people shoving them onto the train. The shovers aren’t the ones killing them… directly. They’re just public servants, doing their job! So relax, get along, kumbayah, and get in the fuckin’ train.
For some queer Americans that’s not an exaggerated comparison. The actual Nazis also targeted trans people, almost immediately. Decades of records on transition and therapeutic treatments were burned, by doctors, to protect those individuals from murderous bigots. Nowadays it wouldn’t even work because that’s all digital. And the elected bastards talking about accessing teen girls’ period apps to detect pregnancy are the exact same bastards talking about globe-spanning temperature data like detecting a trend is impossible.
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I think I agree with you on all those points but that was one rollercoaster of a post.
Exciting times will do that.
Love the energy, but before posting anything on the internet you should imagine a prosecutor asking you to read it to a jury
I’m stealing this. I’m seriously worried for the world. We are entering a new age of the diggers and levellers and that ended with the beheading of the king and no real change.
We have a segment of the population that’s exceedingly frothing at the mouth and in some cases for very valid reasons but at the same time they have no plan and that’s scary. They want to scorch the earth instead of fix it.
I’m stealing this.
Please do!
I’m seriously worried for the world.
Same :(
We are entering a new age of the diggers and levellers and that ended with the beheading of the king and no real change.
First of all, great reference, the English civil war is a fascinating period of history.
But second of all, it wasn’t the diggers who chopped off Charles’ head, they basically never had any real influence on anyone. It was the nobility in parliament that did that (and honestly, Charles did it to himself by being such a stubborn pain in the ass for the nobility), and they were the same ones who didn’t have a plan/couldn’t really imagine a world without a king, which is why they basically forced Cromwell to be king in all but name and then crowned Charles’ son when Cromwell died.
They want to scorch the earth instead of fix it.
I can imagine a lot of scenarios where a bit of scorching is a necessary first step in fixing (but I can also imagine a lot of scenarios where scorching goes off the rails and/or starts cycles of vengeance, so, yeah, we’re seriously worried for the world and for good reason).
Another amateur history buff?!
I wasn’t implying the diggers chopped off Charles’ head. I was more hinting at he political turmoil at the time was very similar to what we see now and it scares me. Those who don’t pay attention to history are doomed to repeat it and we are collectively horrible at teaching people history!
Fair enough, the emergence of groups like them is definitely a symptom of a stressed social system, it’s just I don’t think they’re often the actual cause of the stress, and sometimes listening to those radical groups is the only way to resolve the actual stress (e.g. abolitionists in the United States were right and we just needed to completely abolish slavery for moral and practical reasons but most everyone thought they were crazy until like 1863). I don’t think that really applies to the diggers (the English civil war was a bunch of rich people fighting for power by throwing mountains of poor people at each other who were never organized enough to have their own faction in that fight), but it might apply to our present-day situation (e.g. people like Pia Klemp make a lot of sense to me).
On a related note, if you’re into the history of political upheavals, I highly recommend this podcast called Revolutions1 that actually did a season on the English Civil war and is just absolutely fantastic throughout it’s whole ridiculously long run.
1 best links for finding it depends on if you’re on a desktop, iOS, or Android device,
Sheeeesh, reading y’all’s conversation was more enticing than any history class I ever attended.
I would say the richest and most evil of us dooming our planet to a heated, hell hole of an apocalypse kind of deserves some emotional reaction. The lack of one by most of the population is probably why we won’t see change until it’s too late.
It already is too late.
The only thing we have left is to make sure the ones whi caused this suffer as immeasurably possible as the damage they’ve done. To make sure they do not enjoy one second of the remainder of their days.
This includes any and all o&g execs. Every last shareholder. Every politician who has done nothing or invited this. Every one of them.
Heads on sticks.
100% tax on anything past 100 million or 100% of their head gets lopped off. That’s still an absurd amount of money for you and your family. Put the rest into growing your businesses and thus the economy, or give it to Uncle Sam for some socialized healthcare and UBI instead.
Put the rest into growing your businesses
That’s what they currently do. All of them. That’s the whole point in them owning/investing in a business. That’s how they sidestep so many taxes. Aside from a few (relatively) toys and houses, do you really think Musk or Bezos keep billions on hand in liquid form or physically owned objects?
I have a friend with parents that owned their own business that wasn’t really all that large. It had a net profit of maybe $450,000 per year. They paid themselves enough to do whatever they wanted to that year, and the company “reinvests” the rest. It’s all a shell game to avoid taxes. They did it by buying real estate for the company to ‘eventually’ grow on, but just put five cows on and got themselves agricultural exemptions on taxes, then sold the land later. Repeat x100. That money from the sale could be shuffled into other ‘company’ assets. That’s super small time. They didn’t have fancy lawyers or investing agents to help.
Big, rich, asshole business does it by buying back stock, diversifying (do you really think the big contractor company wants to own a grocery store chain, or a bank wants to own restaurants?) into assets that can just be sold later to recoup the money, etc.
Owning a business is all about tax avoidance. An individual doesn’t have many ways to pump up deductions on taxes, but businesses have so many different avenues that even the IRS throws up their hands at some point. Requiring an individual to “put the rest into” their business won’t change anything, and god knows the economy improving is only going to help a small portion of society. That portion isn’t the portion that needs help.
Also, truthfully, I’d lower your number to $10,000,000. It’s enough to live on even in the ritziest of areas, in the fanciest of houses that aren’t mansions, and is still more per year than the highest of the middle-class will earn in their lives.
Yes, judge, i said " we should just shoot the people who are actively killing us."
What’s the problem here? It’s stand your ground / self defense at its finest.
I am glad we have lemmy. In Reddit you could have been banned even acting on a based self defense
On reddit I was banned for suggesting it would be better to force change now than wait until things are even worse.
Let’s just all agree as humans to never convict someone who’s on trial for that
Nature solving the core problem: overpopulation.
I don’t think overpopulation is what’s causing the issue here
Hardcore perspective
How many of these people are migrants left to die in the desert by unscrupulous coyotes?
Does it matter?
So it doesn’t count then?
I think 30mag was bringing attention to another somewhat related issue, it’s just slightly off topic.
Oh, some percentage of the dead people are brown or brownish? Well, that makes it all ok then!
Seems like OP was going for the opposite effect, expressing empathy for the people who are abandoned in the desert.
Did you mean CBP?
Sure
The less people - the less pollution. Everything’s going the way it should, relax.
This is a bad take… Regions affected with mass migration, people without solid infrastructure, AC or clean water, people not able to move are in danger. They are not the ones polluting. Hypothetically you have 50% less people. Great. Think about who is still there and if pollution really is in decline then.
It’ll work itself out in the end.
Adapt or die, basically.
That’s how nature works.
I know, but I wouldn’t want to be on the receiving end of it.
Ecofasism ☕
No, it’s nature’s self regulation. And every time humans intervene - the real shit happens. Just relax this time, for fucks sake.
The house is on fire and this guy is sitting in the house telling people who’s trying to put the fire out to relax
You can’t put out the fire. YOU are the fire.
Yikes to the max homie
You mean population reduction of poor and homeless people. The rich elites won’t be dying of heat stroke.
Well, don’t be poor, lol.
Problem is we’re on our way to reach a point where even if we stopped all our GHG emissions, just the melting of the ice caps and thawing of the permafrost will be enough to create a self sustaining global warming event.
If you’re talking about the Clathrate Gun hypothesis, that’s no longer considered relevant for the near-future climate crisis.
It’s ok. The planet right now is much cooler than it used to be.
Literally our entire human civilization occurs during a stable climate. If the earth were hotter we’d probably never have reached 8 billion, or if we did it would have been through another way. This is going to be a rough ride, especially for the kids.
Well, if it’s about the humans for you, then I have bad news for you…
Nah that’s not it for me, but just that it will be the next generation whose will have it worse.
“It’s ok, the planet is cooler than it was when it would have been uninhabitable for humans.”
Way to go 👍
Who cares about humans?
Maybe you should since you’re one…
Well, I don’t, sorry.
Just thought I’d add this report from the AZ health department. This breaks down the factors MUCH better and comes to a similar, but not quite as extreme, conclusion. Only part is normalized for population, but it gives an idea of how to scale the numbers.
USA Medics seeing that: “Hey, that’s awesome! More people that we can legally bankrupt!”
That’s not fair. The medics want to help.
It’s the healthcare admins and companies that just want the money. Don’t blame the employees for the failures of the corporations and politicians.
I doubt medics really want to bankrupt anyone. They’re usually the lowest paid out of any emergency service. Police and fire departments are paid way higher.
My area: ~$56k - Average police starting salary
~$59k - Average fire starting salary
~$32k - Average basic EMT
~$34k - Average advanced EMT
~$39k - Average paramedic
Blame the big pharmaceutical companies and corporate takeover of hospitals and small clinics for the insanity of medical costs. The absolute shitshow that insurance has become is also a large contributor. It’s bad enough that doctors are finding it much simpler to work for corporations instead of owning their own practice because it’s easier for the big company to fight the other big company.
You can always count on the right winged politicians and voters to prepare for disasters instead of trying to prevent them.
i think you forgot the “/s”
I think the fact that it’s sarcasm is a given. For that reason I didn’t see a need to use it.
Surely we can just pray for it to go away.
God’s will
Or move away from the freakin hot ass desert.
