Young people in China are becoming more rebellious, questioning their nation’s traditional expectations of career and family

  • @[email protected]
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    I thought this was kind of an old meme by now? I seem to remember it being reported on in english media by the late 2010’s, like 2018/2019, and the half-life of memes is pretty bad anyways + I would assume english media would get around to these things somewhat after they’d been spent anyways.

    My bad, I was thinking of “躺平”, lying flat, as mentioned in the article.

    In any case I think there’s definitely like, an element of this reporting that is, you know, relatively obvious in the amount of bias. You might compare this to, say, if china reported on like, growing incel movements, or something, as evidenced by the spread of andrew tate. Or, maybe better, the quiet quitting movement. They’re not technically incorrect, and those are pretty significant problems, but it’s also, you know, there’s a reason why they’re choosing to report on that, and not like. I dunno, something else. Say, toxic work culture. Sigma male grindsets. The total inverse, you will rarely see reported on by, you know, the fucking wall street journal. I have a skepticism for the motives of the media, is basically all I’m saying. I agree with the memes though the chinese government and chinese society et large kind of blows chunks, similarly faulted as is most of modern society broadly.

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    1051 year ago

    摆烂 bai3lan4

    A slang term that means “stop striving”, I’d say it’s loosely akin to the phrase “quiet quitting” but a bit more general.

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    Crazy when an authoritarian country like China that can just execute people when they don’t stay on message, get way off message and say shit like this. Boomer’s who bitch about people not wanting to work anymore, this lets me truthfully respond with “even with a gun to their head, today’s hopeless work is probably worse than death”

    Edit: Looks like I pissed off some tankies, too bad fuckers, China is an evil country with black souled sons of bitches at the helm, and that’s as an American with even more disgusting darker souled miserable sons of bitches at the helms of our branches of government. Get real and get over it. Xi is a Winnie the Pooh looking CUNT that can go fuck himself!!!

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      China is a authoritarian country, but it doesn’t have the resource and political will to capture and kill every person that doesn’t align with CCP.

      Things can get pretty ugly (like death, torture, or removal of livelihood) for strong anti-governmental message, like bridgeman; significant public figure expressing dissent (even as a joke), like Bi Fujian, the host of the most popular variety show; or significant public event like wuyi (乌衣), Quanmei, and other activist in the chained woman incident.

      But Chinese government is not going to kill someone for saying “I am so fucking overworked”. Arrest for telling the story to foreign media (which obviously is neither humane nor legal, I am not trying to defend CCP), maybe, but not worth any more serious punishment.

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        71 year ago

        Schroedinger’s Communist:

        The country is ruled by wealthy elite, but still communist. The government is incompetent, but also all powerful.

        It’s a fascist dictorship, and only as powerful as it’s enforcers are loyal.

        If things get bad, it can collapse overnight.

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          11 year ago

          The country is ruled by wealthy elite, but still communist.

          “This polygon has three sides, but it’s still a triangle.”

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            31 year ago

            More like:

            This square doesn’t have any corners, but still a square because it told me. Also don’t trust that square, it lies about everything

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        One of the things I learned reading Three Body Problem is that their police problems mirror the US a lot more than either country might realize. One of the characters is a cop who knows he’s supposed to act a certain way in investigations, but doesn’t give a shit. In other words, there’s an expectation that their police respect certain civil liberties, but they often don’t. Which is basically what happens in the US.

        That book was originally published in 2008, though, and since then, Xi Jinping has been pushing things back to being more explicitly authoritarian. Oh, and the author has made some statements in support of that, so that’s great.

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        31 year ago

        Love how y’all hate anti lockdown protesters in USA but cheer them on in China.

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    11 year ago

    I hate the Chinese government with the heat of a thousand suns, but I love the actual people of China equally. They have been completely fucked over by the Cultural Revolution and deserve much better.

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      You’ve never encountered photojournalism?! I know they are cutting budgets for photographers but that seems sad to me.

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      101 year ago

      A new media for the new generation. In an era of ever-growing flow of information, it’s only natural pieces are more and more condensed and visual. That’s how we got here.

        • Demographics (She/Her)
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          121 year ago

          I disagree, I feel like this is an attempt to inject emotion and empathy into a topic that usually garners hostility. Think of the people usually reading The Wallstreet Journal: it’s not anyone young you imagine, perhaps someone with terms like “commies” still in lingo from the 70s and 80s?

          I read this as an attempt to humanize a group that their target audience would usually alienate. The photos help with generating those emotions.

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      41 year ago

      This is a great quote, I also like to say (especially in places like airports or government buildings):

      It’s not a rat race, it’s a rat queue.

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      141 year ago

      I’ll say this some time and someone will tell me I’m an idiot for quoting some awful person, but right now - not knowing if it is a quote or not - I love this

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        131 year ago

        I’ve always thought the value of quotes (when they have any) is based entirely on their content rather than who spoke them. A smart quote from an awful person is still smart. And a dumb quote from a smart person is still dumb, like that definition of insanity one that often gets attributed to Einstein.

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          41 year ago

          I’m sure there’s some sort of logical fallacy to be said about negating the quality of a quote based on the person who said it. Like, if Einstein said it, then it must be smart. If Hitler said it, then it must be evil. Etc.

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        51 year ago

        Well, you got me curious.

        Seems like the first use was in a life magazine article by someone who didn’t want to take explicit credit, so chances are it was something thought of by his students. And then it was repeated by various comedians over the years.

        For what it’s worth, my quick skim of the author, William Sloane Coffin’s wiki makes him seem like a pretty great guy.

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    21 year ago

    Ahh yes. Lemmy’s favorite. Another “China bad” article. This is the same shit as “no one wants to work anymore”. Non news, ignore this shit.

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      171 year ago

      Probably it has happened all over the history as well, not just right now. Wanting not to take the torch from the previous generation is a pretty normal thing to do for people in their 20s.

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        111 year ago

        I mean you’d be pretty reluctant to grab a torch too if it was one that has been held on desperately by a generation 3 above yours that didn’t even want to hand it away but are literally decaying around as they grasp tightly onto it and the torch requires feeding babies to it even though they don’t burn just so you have an excuse to dump a bunch of oil on to help reduce them to ash a bit further.

        I think being handed a torch to carry would be fine. This is not a passing of a torch but a wildfire that people are busy dancing around. And I’m definitely to shy to join the “let it burn” party.

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      Can say I’ve definitely “stopped striving”, don’t know if it’s from Long Covid, living paycheck to paycheck cause my pay gets min/maxed for the business, personal infighting thanks to Fox News and Republican bullshit tearing apart and killing families over vaccinations, or maybe it’s just the weather 🤷‍♂️ lol fuck

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      Its just a generic filler article that gets posted about young people every year or two.

      “Quiet Quitting” was the thing in 2022.

      “Great Resignation” was the thing in 2021

      You can find articles about this in 2019, 2016, omfg all over the place in the wake of 2008, “Jobless Recovery” from 2004 to 2006, in the 90s it was “Slackers” and in the 80s it was “Punks” and in the 70s and 60s it was “Hippies” and then back to Beatniks and Anarchists and of course, the old crowd favorite, Pinko Commies.

      This is just a more recent mash up of the “China Bad” and “Nobody Wants To Work Anymore” meme