• @[email protected]
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    512 years ago

    I’m a teenage FOSS enthusiast and I’m of the opinion that there are a lot more of us here than you seem to all think.

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      Same same, it is mostly the matter of your FOSS knowledge, if you were a FOSS nerd you would most likely to switch from reddit in some way or another… (16 btw)

      • @[email protected]
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        22 years ago

        Same, also 16, and the ‘mentally kids’ excuse is more insulting than they may have realised.

    • @[email protected]
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      62 years ago

      As a fellow teenager and a FOSS enthusiast, Linux user and Linux tinkerer and hobbyist, I’m glad to see there are more people my age getting into the FOSS space.

    • @[email protected]
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      32 years ago

      I am not a teenager, but I think younger people are generally pretty fucking cool.

      Yeah, yall are immature, so what, compared to old people when they were your age, y’all are so MUCH COOLER.

      Seriously, on every metric, I don’t understand how you can shit on young people these days. They are just an improvement on us.

    • @[email protected]
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      342 years ago

      not speaking for OP but when I think about not wanting “kids” around, I mean immature people. I’m looking to be part of something like the reddit prior to them buying Alien Blue.

      • @[email protected]
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        82 years ago

        Agree. I suspect that the UX challenge of the Fediverse as well as the fact that you’d largely only migrate here if you’re ideologically displeased with the admins means that people on this site skew more mature.

  • @[email protected]
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    142 years ago

    The internet as a whole got sadder / meaner / more unruly when COVID happened. I was on reddit a lot at the time and noticed it immediately.

    It’s still like that, but I hope we find a way forward.

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    I would imagine a high proportion of people so easy to leave Reddit found it easy because they remember leaving digg.

    Anyone younger than that are just bloody sensible

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      I started redditing about 8 years back. After digg.

      Leaving reddit is hard but I have generally enjoyed forums and lemmy is a fun new experience I haven’t had in a while.

      If anything, in 10 years I can do the whole ‘I was here at the start’ thing on the younglings.

      • @[email protected]
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        52 years ago

        Old Slashdotter here. I skipped Fark and Digg and went straight to Reddit. I’m very happy to be here in the Fediverse/Lemmy world now.

        • MadWorks
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          I don’t remember exactly how I came to Reddit, but I know I’m in the 13-year club. I remember when all the Digg users came over and remember they’re being a lot of anger and memes about it. But I’ve been around long enough to where moving to a different platform doesn’t phase me in the slightest. In fact, I’m really enjoying this feeling of a reinvigorated community.

    • @[email protected]
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      52 years ago

      I only joined Reddit five years ago. Leaving Reddit turned out to be pretty easy because I had other things to occupy my time with. I have a feeling that it’s because I was never that attached to reddit to begin with.

      • @[email protected]
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        42 years ago

        I can relate to this. I think I’ve been on Reddit for about 6 years. I probably had a bit of an addiction but I used to be pretty serious into forums and I have already learned how to disconnect from internet communities more than a decade ago.

        • @[email protected]
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          32 years ago

          Should note that the ‘addiction’ part was only fueled by my favorite third party app “Joey”.

    • @[email protected]
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      32 years ago

      Some of us are old enough to remember when social media sites that were “too big to die” died. We’ve been burned before, so we’re making plans before that happens.

  • @[email protected]
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    I hail from the days of BBS (Fidonet days), text based internet, email, Newsgroups (Eternal September Survivor), Slashdot, Digg, Reddit, now here. It’s all about what you have to contribute, how you communicate, and how you present yourself.

  • @[email protected]
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    Agree. But it’s not kids, it’s stupid people of all ages. Same thing happened with Reddit and with the Internet as a whole. Used to be you had to be a little smart to know you wanted to be on the Internet and figure out how to get it working. Then same was true of forums and IRC. Then same was true of Reddit. But then Reddit changed formats trying to be a TikTok style quick content scroll app, so idiots who just want to scroll started using the site and quality of discussions went down. I hope Lemmy grows but I hope the sign up process stays as it is, to weed out the extra stupid.

    • @[email protected]
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      242 years ago

      I think you‘re onto something. I read a lot of comments of people thinking the fediverse is too complicated to deal with and while I disagree - but also think it has issues - there does seem to be a barrier of entry for a good portion of people in the form of „inconvenience.“ So whoever is here really wants to be here and not just be an anonymous arse. I don‘t think you gotta be particularly smart, you gotta step out of your comfort zone.

      • @[email protected]
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        62 years ago

        Which part of it is supposed to be complicated? I’ve seen this argument many times, and while I’m still trying to figure out the user interface(s), the whole idea is pretty basic

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          32 years ago

          I would guess the whole “federation” part. It can be confusing for non tech minded people to try and understand distributed sites. They might not understand that lemmy.world and lemmy.ml while both being lemmy are not the same site.

        • @[email protected]
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          52 years ago

          Yes, this exactly. I’m starting to suspect that either someone very misinformed or someone with an agenda started spreading this rumor.

          It just takes one person to reaffirm that it really is “too much work to switch” and “you aren’t lazy for not trying” to keep a lot of folks in place.

          • @[email protected]
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            22 years ago

            This kept me off Lemmy until the blackout. I was interested prior to that, but so many people said it was complicated, I figured I’d look into it at some vague point in the future when I had time to untangle the fediverse. Then the baclout happened, and what do you know I had time, and lo and behold it was easy. I’m now a bit annoyed I was dissuaded for so long based on BS about it being complicated.

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              I just had to find an instance (or “site”) that allowed sign-ups and register. My first account was on Kbin since it seemed less buggy on mobile. I feel like they think something’s complicated just because it’s on a website, or because there are multiple options.

        • @[email protected]
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          52 years ago

          I can‘t tell you since I also disagree. I did basically the same thing I did on Reddit, I only got thrown off seeing multiple „subs“ with the same name.

          Some people complained how complicated „explanations“ are. I saw these types of comments on the Reddit Alternatives sub.

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          12 years ago

          I’m also a bit confused by it being ‘complex’. I created an account (I chose .world as it had world in the name, as it turned out that was a great decision lol), you log in, click on ‘all’ and sort by top/day you’ve essentially got ‘Reddit’, or am I missing something lol.

        • @[email protected]
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          12 years ago

          Getting one’s head around the concept of instances is hard for some people who aren’t used to dealing with tech beyond the basic social platforms.

          Is it one social media platform, or is it a bunch of individual ones? The fact that the answer is “it depends” is confusing. Especially when you get into defederation and cross-platform interaction.

          • @[email protected]
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            22 years ago

            Very true. I often make the mistake of thinking that if something makes sense to me pretty quickly, it will be just as quick for others.

            We should remember that those of us here now are more likely to be uniquely interested in this tech and thus more able to wrap our heads around these concepts without being deterred. We could always do a better job making it accessible for beginners who don’t benefit from the same background.

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        42 years ago

        Hmm this is also a good point. I’ve been explaining to redditors that Lemmy is not that complicated and only takes a couple minutes to get started. But reading this, now I’m hoping Lemmy can find the balance between number of active users and quality of content. I’m wondering if my spreading the word on reddit was a bad idea.

        Maybe the “work” required to make the jump to Lemmy will be enough to keep lower quality content (for whatever reason) at bay for a bit longer, though. Of course, it won’t last forever. All we can do is make our communities good spaces from the get-go and try to maintain them carefully as we grow.

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          I think it‘s good to grow. Lemmy (or the Fediverse, I suppose?) should be as inclusive, convenient, and engaging as can be. It has only just started (in my opinion), we‘ll see how it goes. I like it here so far, feels like people are less prone to jump at your throat for voicing a (harmless) opinion.

    • @[email protected]
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      22 years ago

      It was the worst thing to witness on reddit. A post with tens of thousands of likes and only a handfull of comments

      • Ben
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        32 years ago

        I boosted from 1k karma to 20k by searching ‘pun’ on every top joke each day for a week.

        It’s enough that good/bad posts get boosted up/down by votes without them generating Karma.

        Intelligent answers aren’t always the most popular…

        • teft
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          42 years ago

          Reddit karma wasn’t about popularity or intelligence. It was about who got there first. If you shotgun enough comments into brand new threads your karma will skyrocket.

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            Also, making comments on the top comments. Plus that’s the only way for new replies to have visibility once a thread has over ~1000 replies.

    • @[email protected]
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      22 years ago

      Then same was true of forums and IRC

      When IRC was entirely people on command line clients that existed on *nix. But that has changed with the ease of use of clients for Windows, and then eventually web clients.

  • @[email protected]
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    62 years ago

    I remember shortly after the death of digg rage comics being peak humor and suddenly an influx of kids not understanding how to make a rage comic killing that sub.

    It reminds me of the day the internet died, when so many new AOL users overwhelmed the forums at the time and killed all the etiquette that had formed up to that point. Internet been stagnant for longer than it should have been. I’m excited to see where things go now.

    • Dran
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      I’m in my early 30s and still feel like a child most of the time

      • Ben
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        12 years ago

        It doesn’t wear off. I fell off a skateboard when I was 59, only the torn rotator cuff (and 1 year of painful rehab) let me know I shouldn’t have tried going down that hill…

      • @[email protected]
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        32 years ago

        Second this. Older guy once told me and it always stuck since.

        “I’ve always mentally felt 18, but my body tells me otherwise.”

        I still get excited over childish things, and sometimes try to participate and wonder how I used to do some of these said things back then. Paintball is still fun and I can keep up, but I definitely feel it the next day.

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    man. i hope there would be an age barrier to those or something, or they be periodically flagged so they dont spread around. i had enough of kids and shitposters. is this heaven

    https://imgur.com/a/zMorTCb

    we have to commit to our duty as users of the community if we want it the way we like it

    • Ben
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      Download this - I’ve got plenty spare.

    • XiELEd
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      I personally think the technical barrier of entry into the fediverse is already enough. There will be some teenagers who prefer mature spaces, and being above a certain age isn’t a guarantee for the quality of their contribution.

  • @[email protected]
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    212 years ago

    For me, It’s the lack of advertising. Especially the constant guerilla advertising and flash marketing done in the larger subs.

    • @[email protected]
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      132 years ago

      At this point I’m just so burnt out on the constant advertisements. It’s literally shoved in your face at all times and not only does it make me actively avoid the products but its also exhausting.

      • teft
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        132 years ago

        Constant advertisements wearing you down? Now there’s anti-advertisement spray! Just click here to read our website that totally isn’t astroturfing. You too can be without advertising. JUST CLICK HERE!!!

        /S

        • @[email protected]
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          22 years ago

          Honestly though, if there was an anti-advertisement spray that worked I would buy it lol.

        • @[email protected]
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          32 years ago

          “Hello, I’m the CEO of anti-advertisement spray. Please dm me and I’ll personally check on the status of your order!”

          • @[email protected]
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            12 years ago

            “Hello, I’m the ceo of Anti-Advertisement spray. After 5 long hard years in development, we’re here to talk about this stuff and shove this product down your throats. AMA!”

            1.5k upvotes, people fawning over the person, stupid gold and all the stupid badges attached to the post…. FFS.

    • megane-kun
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      Coming from someone who was your age before you were born: you do you.

      ‘Age’ is mostly just a matter of experience and perspective anyways. I could be as old as earth itself but lack the experience to know any better. On the other hand, you could have a better perspective on things (compared to me) because you have been through a lot, or is more thoughtful and reflective about things.

      • @[email protected]
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        This is the key. I know older people who act like they’re in their twenties, and 30 year olds who act like curmudgeonly old men. My girlfriend’s grandfather decided almost overnight that he was an old man and suddenly began to act the part.

        Half of age is perspective.

        • megane-kun
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          My girlfriend’s grandfather decided almost overnight that he was an old man and suddenly began to act the part.

          This has brought quite a funny mental image to me.

          A man like this

          a young Ian McKellen

          suddenly turning into this

          Ian McKellen as Gandalf

          almost like magic.

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      Same here, but turning eighteen very soon