Edit It’s 17:08 now and it still shows 3 minutes
Edit 2 It’s 17:15 now and it has been on 0 minutes for 3 full minutes…
Must be a Welsh machine. I’ll be there now, in a minute.
The labelling is in Dutch, so it’s either a Dutch or a Flemish machine.
It was a joke, since the Welsh say “I’ll do it now, straight away” for immediately, but “Now, in a minute” for I’ll do it, but have no estimate of when it will get done.
to go full circle, it’s a samsung eco bubble of sorts. I have one myself as a dutchy and I think it does time itself based on what’s in there so it’s just an estimation.
Yeah, I have the same machine. it will be saying 1 minute left on the spin cycle for 10 minutes.
The developers just put their own logic into its estimation software.
The Windows file copy team?
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It’s not always the fault of the device. It estimate the time based on the download speed in this moment, but it can’t know that in the next moment your ISP server slows down or that your AV stops the download for some times to analyze a suspicios file, things like this to make your day enjoyable. Because of this, never automatic updates. I recieve an notification if there is an update in the queue and so I can update when I like in a spare time.
Uh, this is a photo of a clothes dryer.
And who needs an Dryer, Washingmashine, Fridge or other home appliance with Internet connection to spy you? Then complaining on Lemmy about the lack of privacy on the internet and the control of large corporations over the user.
The photo shows a washing machine though (I can read the Dutch labeling of the dials/buttons).
I still wouldn’t be surprused if it worked that way
That’s a washer, or maybe a dryer I can’t tell. I hope it’s not downloading anything
Washer. It describes available washing programs in Dutch.
How can this be an estimation, and how is it so wrong? Doesn’t the program just have a hard-coded length? Or does the time vary based on clothing weight or something? This seems so utterly strange to me.
Seems to be a washing machine. 1600RPM spin dry.
The problem occurs because there are 2 conditions that need to be fulfilled.
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Its programmed to spin at set RPM for 6 mins.
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Before it can initiate a full speed spin it needs to ensure the drum is balanced. If its off balanced it will damage the spin motor and other parts of the machine in short order. (reference old machines that sound like an earthquake during spin cycles). It will keep attempting to adjust the clothes by start-stopping so clothes can fall in place. Only when the vibrations are down to acceptable levels will the machine initiate a full speed spin dry. Machine will stay stuck at set spin time until condition 2 is fulfilled.
The way to fix this is to open up the machine, untangle balled up clothes and allow the spin dry to resume.
Very good reply, just one thing to add, it’s both a washer and dryer, we did a full wash dry cycle.
Even worse… dryers often use a moisture sensor to determine when it is done. Load shifts, sensors gets more moisture, time goes up.
It’s even harder to estimate two separate things accurately. So many variables
Those are a thing? TIL, how cool!
I find you get much more accurate estimates when you don’t overstuff the machine. You’re supposed to keep it 60-70% full to allow for proper agitation. Lots of people top it off.
If you read the instructions, on mine anyway, it says a full load is to the top of the basket without pressing down on any of the clothes. I always lay them around in a circular pattern to even out the level of clothes as I’m loading it. My fiancee used to shove as much as she could in there, and it would get off balance and wobble and shake the house. It took a lot of convincing but she finally believed me after I kept pointing out that’s probably why it was happening.
Washing machines (mine anyway) wash by spinning back and forth in water with detergent, so if you stuff it full there’s not much room for any clothes to move and they don’t get very clean and will come out smelling like laundry detergent.
Sounds like you have top load and not front load.
I’m referring to front load machines.
Ref: https://www.wash.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/front-load-max-fill-level.gif
https://www.wash.com/request-help/clothes-not-getting-clean/
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I assume it weighs it at the start and knows it’s dry when it weighs the same again.
It doesn’t know what the material is. Some dry quicker than others.
That’s actually a very smart way to do that. Couldn’t have thought of that
That’s a fancy dryer.
Mines purely mechanical. Old school timer runs the dryer
This one might save power because it will only dry as long as it needs to.
Opening the door and checking will also make sure it only dries as long as it needs to.
Not really. You lose all the hot air every time you open it up and then it has to use juice to heat up again.
Right. Right. So let’s make it run even longer than it needs to. That’s a great solution.
It’s certainly more simpler than your dumbass idea that will get the company sued when some shmuck decides to fondle the vent or some bs.
I’m sorry popping open a door for one second is too much for you. You might not be clever enough for a clothes dryer.
And that’s ok. Not everyone has to be good at the very basics. Luckily there’s plenty of companies willing to sell you over priced over engineered crap.
Man i envy your bubble. You haven’t met some truly dumb people.
you guys are going in circles with this heated debate
Mate, most people are not interested of following laundry machine spin for 4 hours. Normal people put clothes in, go do something and get the clothes out when they hear a peep. Or 10 hours later whatever.
Kind of like estimations in software development.
estimations in software development are much less reliable IMO
Lies. They’re very reliable. You can rely on them to be wrong.
Take whatever timeline you have and double it. Then add 6 more weeks of cram.
We call it “the longest minute” in my house.
My washing machine over-estimates at first, it drops nearly an hour after it gets going. However, it will underestimate later on.
Also, it does this thing where it beeps that it’s starting, doesn’t do anything, then unlocks the door for a few seconds, then locks it again and actually starts. That’s been a life saver for catching that one sock that got left behind and didn’t make it into the drum.
Exactly. It is critical to learn what the machine means when not under time pressure.
Had the exact same experience the other day. Fuck these machines, fuck printers, fuck microwave ovens, fuck software updates and fuck time estimates in general.
Shouldn’t need to be an estimate. The washer and drier are on timers. Use that as the time indicator.
Most dryers give an estimate of time but use a sensor to judge if the clothes are indeed dry.
Most dryers these days should be using a moisture sensor, not a timer.
My dryer has a couple different presets which all adjust the remaining time dynamically according to a predetermind dryness level. To get around this, I just use the “custom” setting and change the temperature and timer manually.
I see you bought a dryer that’s in Hawaiian time
No worries, just go with the flow it’ll work out
Fun fact though typically the last little bit of drying in the dryer is just cool down time, so just reach in there and grab those toasty boxers, you’ll be fine
Those aren’t minutes, they’re drying time units, which last as long as the dryer decides it wants them to last on any particular day.
A washer or dryer is never late. Nor it it early. It finishes precisely when it means to.
Now I’m confused, how many drying time units are in a galactic standard week?
Depends how wet the week is.
I can understand the confusion, drying time units is actually a measure of distance not speed.
That old toaster post, back from the dead!
Who the fuck programs these things? Why even have this measurement if the units are not a fixed length? Just put a light on it that says “done” or “not done”
Imagine getting so mad at a dryer timer. If you hate it so much don’t look at it and wait until it’s done
I can’t imagine
It’s an estimation, which I prefer over the vagueness of a done/not done light. I recognize that it’s not specific or reliable for any precision, but having a general idea of when it will be done is useful.
its got the vague precision of a fucking sledgehammer
says 30 minutes, could be 10, could be an hour, who knows
Mine typically says 2.5 hours and is done in 1.5-2h. Anyone using estimates on a minute schedule is… gonna have a bad time
Ah, mine is much better than that. Usually right within 15 minutes or so
These dryers also have a timed function that will allow to to over dry your clothes as much as you’d like. The auto modes use sensors that can detect clothes that still haven’t dried completely as they tumble about. Pretty hard to make precise unless you’re attaching sensors to every article in the dryer.
Prolly also need humidity and temp sensors outside the drum.
I mean, I was just being sarcastic, but it seems like that.
One thing I pride myself on is the ability to see through my dryer’s bullshit. I know that 30 minutes really means 45 you damn liar.
Yeah I should have known, started the thing at 12:26 (actually know this because I called my wife to check if we had 3 hours and 38 minutes before we needed to go), its 17:18 and I just got the door open…
It took almost 5 hours to the dry the clothes?
It’s a washer and dryer, so it did both
We had one of these combos at an Airbnb I stayed at in Iceland. I’d never seen or used one before and I was flabbergasted to see it took like 4-5 hours to wash and dry the tiniest load of laundry! Not gonna take my big ass washer and dryer for granted anymore haha.
I wish we had the space to have separate machines for washing and drying, it’s a lot better unless if you’re a single guy with minimal amount of clothes to wash.
Even with wife and a toddler it does fine, but you just need to be strategic on what you wash and when
If you haven’t already, clean the dryer vent thoroughly, including the whole exhaust vent leading outside. This should be done at least once a year. Once the vent is clear it should speed up drying, if not it might be the dryer itself and the manual might have solutions.
Here are some guides: https://www.familyhandyman.com/article/how-to-clean-a-dryer-vent/ https://home.howstuffworks.com/home-improvement/home-diy/projects/dryer-vent-cleaning.htm
I much prefer hang drying.
- Less wear on the clothes
- Basically no energy cost (technically not correct but it’s really whatever)
- Free humidifying during the dry winters
- Fairly satisfying thing to do while listening to a podcast
The primary downside is that it’s no fun to do it when it rains, neither indoors or outdoors, but as long as you time your laundry well enough, it’s all good.
Relying on the weather to dry your clothes is a scam. You’re just going to get tricked. I have ADHD so it’s a no go
What does ADHD have to do with this? I’m not sure that I get it.
I can’t remember to do shit because I don’t experience the mental construct of time in the same way as neurotypicals. And even with an alarm, it’s still an extra cognitive load that makes me more likely to mess up everything else. If I forget the clothes on the line for a week, they’ll degrade in the elements and get mildew from the night dew. Inside is a better place for me to forget my clothes. I have less stuff to remember for less time, an alarm is more help to me, and I don’t have to plan for unexpected variables.
The drying machine is a disabled person’s ally.
I see - remembering to bring the laundry inside is the issue.
While there’s nothing wrong with using a dryer - I’m certainly not going to deny you the privilege - perhaps hanging the clothes inside could be a passable workaround for the memory issue? Assuming your indoor environment allows for it, that is.
It’s -11°F where I am today, my family still lives in Jamaica and I envy their ability to hang their clothes so much.
It should be possible to hang your clothes indoors still, I guess. Outdoors as well I’ve been told, when it’s a bit below freezing, but I’ll admit that I’ve never actually tried that.
I do all the time and it works.
What’s your usual strategy? Any maximum outdoor temperature you aim for, how long do you aim to hang the clothes, etc?
Nothing like spring/summer outdoor fresh dried laundry
At home I hang most of the clothes, but we where at a short trip and we had some wet towels and swimgear, so de decided to just do one full laundry with most of our wet and dirty clothes. The first duration before I even started the cycle was that it should be done at about 16:10 it was actually done more than an hour later.
OP looking down on the unwashed masses after complaining about his fancy washing machine:
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