Shocked Pikachu face meme.
Hey, I remember this website from back in the day. They still around or is this old?
Wasn’t reddit always like that? Or was this particular sub okay?
All my subreddits that I moderated went to shit after the protests. I stopped, the replacements stopped, the sudden influx of shitty posts and shady users drove off the normal communities.
Fuck em. I haven’t felt the urge to post on reddit in months and it’s lovely knowing the people I’m interacting with probably aren’t rabid fascists unless they’re Lemmy.world pissbabies.
What subs did you mod? I wanna watch the trainwreck 😂
/r/snackexchange/ - I made it a protest subreddit by embracing Spez’s call for user democracy. Every day every single thing about the subreddit would be reset and users would have to vote for every aspect. The only rules were that you couldn’t abolish democracy and you couldn’t abolish me as the caretaker. /u/Icxcnika was a weird little goober who took it seriously instead of seeing it as a protest meant to derail the subreddit. He voted to make himself mod for a day and then the admins did a mod coup to make him the head, even over the other two mods that had been there for a decade and built all of the third-party tools we relied on to make the subreddit work. He had only posted once, some 8 or 9 years before, and had never moderated. The users and other mods fucking hated him and activity in the subreddit fell off. Now he no longer posts, one of the other mods no longer posts, and the last remaining one is apparently now a bot that sells funko pops.
/r/fifthworldproblems/ - The other mods and I were all on board with the protest. They forced us back open so we refused to do anything. Now it’s restricted and the only link posted since the protest was a Lemmy instance that I didn’t have anything to do with.
/r/modernart - I started rebuilding this one after it was overtaken by spam from people who don’t know what “modern art” actually means. I want to keep the subreddit because there’s good radicalisation potential with it in the right hands, but I stopped posting and only remove the most obnoxious spam days after it’s reported to tank the quality of the subreddit. I’ll be replacing everything with a Lemmy instance link at some point but was always holding out for Hexbear to open up community creation.
I had a few others that I just left or let the admin bot take over.
you know I never used that but it always seemed like a useful idea, kudos to you
did people swap anything with countries outside the https://lemmygrad.ml/c/alwaysthesamemap area?
It was fun at its high point. The problem was like you said, always the same map. Shipping costs run like $20-150+ and that’s a month’s wage in many of the countries that have interesting snacks we aren’t already over-saturated with. Scams were only ever like 5% of trades at most and we never had a poisoning though, so overall a successful prototype of the thing that would work.
Oh wow you rock! I definitely followed the snack exchange saga for a while before switching over here
i followed the snack exchange subreddit thing from day one, that little piece of shit was so utterly removedish in so many ways. First time i genuinely wanted to doxx someone because YOU KNOW that dork looks like
irlHe was weird. In addition to the posts on the daily election threads, he was sending me PMs that were flattering in a way Patrick Bateman would compliment someone. Everything was blatantly manipulative and worded in a way that was simultaneously an interrogation I knew he was feeding to the admins. Then the dog caught his car and had to drive it while everyone else on the road screamed at him. I think he lasted like three days before handing over control to one of the mods who was so offended that they quit the website.
Nothing irks me more than someone who can’t handle positive chaos or slight inconvenience. He was so determined to stop the protest which was only over us not being able to moderate the subreddit without those third-party tools, all to preserve the sanctity of a community he hadn’t interacted with in almost a decade. There’s something deeply pathological about a power grab like that. Like what the fuck.
ive never read something so pathetic, in fact im going to PM him on reddit right now to mock him.
Seems like the way for reddit to “solve” this is to just close bad subs.
But that’s easily exploited, if people migrate to other subs and start protesting the sub closures, those subs get worse and they need to be closed…
Oh no, reddit, did you just discover that you relied on your users to make your site good and by screwing them over you’ve made your entire business unsustainable at scale?
Also, somewhat related, is there a short snappy name for lemmy communities? Some people call them subs out of habit but I don’t wanna do that, and “communities” is four whole syllables, and ain’t nobody got time for that.
what about munie(s)?
They are called “lemmy communities” or “communities”
“Sublemmies” is cringe and is some weird portmanteau with subreddit which is stupid because I don’t know why people are still attached the idea of subreddits since this isn’t reddit and “lemmings” which some users like to call lemmy users but I don’t agree with that either and “lemmy users” sounds like a better term to use
So many people here are trying to emulate reddit when this isn’t reddit, yes some features from reddit would be nice like a group collection of subreddits like multireddits did and post flairs but this still isn’t reddit
…and “lemmings” which some users like to call lemmy users but I don’t agree with that either and “lemmy users” sounds like a better term to use
This is just how communities work: people will find names for things and other people are reproducing them if they like the term.
I mostly call them “cees”, ex “The linux cee on .ml”
You’re saying it out loud? Who in the world to?
Two gamers in one house! I might even get her to install Fedora on her next gaming PC. She’s using me as proof of concept I think…
A short name for communities would be groups. I like to call the users fedizens, as it is not specific to one software.
I like “group” actually. It’s short and descriptive.
Commies.
I can’t decide if I hate that or love it.
Given the automotive slang term for “transmission”, I think this one has a chance
Well call them… Cummies
“Any recommendations for good cummies here?”
“I usually start my day just laying in bed and checking out new cummies”
“It’s unfortunate that niche cummies don’t always have the support needed to stick around. I’ve seen great cummies wiped away before they could really build any volume up.”
“It’s so often overlooked, but proper handling of cummies is really what keeps them enjoyable day after day.”
Yep, I see no fault with the naming scheme here. Really rolls off the tongue well too. Very palatable. Definitely not absolutely cursed.
Totally not completely cursed, and those example sentences absolutely didn’t make me regret being literate.
What the fuck
Coms?
I’ve seen “Lemmies”, I’ve also seen “sublemmies” which brings “subs” back on the table imo. Alternatives are /c/s, commus, com’s, etc.
@Obi /c/s is not long (albeit a bit complicated to write, on phone at least) and it could easily be expanded verbally, so you know that
/c/s = communities.On Friendica, everything that is not a person or a page is displayed as a group. As a Facebook alternative, it does make sense, but for you in the Lemmy world I imagine it would sound a bit bland. 😁
I like communities and sublemmies.
Coms/commus sounds forced and unnecessary, doubt it’ll catch on.
As for Lemmies, I think that should be a synonym for instances/servers. So, for example, the biggest Lemmy with the most sublemmies would be lemmy.world.
And of course, the users are lemmings.
“Communes”, populated by “commies”?
I guess “subs” isn’t exactly a reddit specific term. I don’t even know if it started there tbh.
I’ve just realised there’s nothing wrong with taking some of the language they used, we are after all following the basic link aggregator format.
I remember “subforums” back in the day, so it definitely didn’t start with reddit.
I’d like the name to be “community feed” and “feeds” for short. Reddit was always essentially a collective rss with voting weights. In this way “subs” would still work since one subscribes to the feeds.
Ultimately it’s something the devs need to encourage though
Subs still works in my mind. Subdirectories of all, or subscriptions… whichever way you want to think of it. I never really thought of subs as short for subreddits though, that was just convenient marketing based of those same terms.
Yeah subs and the mods are the doms, which works for my dyslexic, kinky ass.
I’m honestly surprised I’ve not seen anyone make that connection for a joke, thanks dyslexia, it’s pretty funny.
Coms?
“solve”
to make your site good
unsustainable
I think you’re misunderstanding reddit’s goal. Over the past year, they have been in IPO mode. They don’t care about making the site good or attracting a healthy community. They want to cash out and are burning down any structures that are providing any resistance to that.
They don’t care about making the site good or attracting a healthy community.
They never cared about the “healthy” part either, just “big”. Reddit has been a cesspool for years and years and years, largely thanks to the moderators.
You’re right, they aren’t trying to make something sustainable. I guess I was giving them too much credit when I said that.
The problem they’re facing here is that if they can’t sustain even the appearance of a functioning site that investors might want to buy, then they fail at that too.
So maybe the best way to fix this is just to ride it out and not close the subs, but if they’re just full of users that have finally clocked why mods are needed and that the place sucks now, that’s also a bad look.
If the search engines start to realise that it’s a cesspit with nothing worth linking to anymore, then that really hits their metrics. I’ve just realised I really need to get onto downloading my posts and deleting them.
Maybe daddy Elon can pay another $50b to buy Reddit and run that into the ground too.
Hopefully it costs them dearly. Kinda like the whole Tumblr censorship fiasco and drastic fall in value but before they sell it. Put #FuckSpez in the poor house
Why do you care how it turns out financially for reddit? The outcome I’d wish for is that more people come to lemmy
Because I was generally enjoying Reddit before being forced out by the API crap. I’m a creature of habit so tend to dislike change and as much as I’m generally liking Lemmy, I’m having to force myself to not check the app every time I get bored because I’ll just see the same posts 20 times in a day thanks to the relatively low level of interaction on the platform currently. Whenever I go looking for tech support online, it’s nearly always a reddit post from 2-8 years ago that has the answer but I don’t want to spend any amount of time on the site, particularly if I’m on my phone at the time since it means doing that annoying step of having to manually change “www” to “old” to make the site functional and readable. I guess I’m just feeling vengeful at yet another good (or some approximation of) thing ruined by yet another money-grubbing, power-hungry, self-important tosser.
Though I see what you’re saying… ish. I think at this point, we aren’t going to see a massive influx of users without the death of competing platforms like Reddit since there are enough people either happy to keep taking the punches or think sunshine shines out of Spez’s asshole. Frankly, we can do without the second kind of person but the first won’t do anything without a certain amount of persuasion and I reckon the sinking of the ol’ Reddit ship would be just enough of a toe-capped-boot up the nether regions to persuade.
Edit: grammar whoopsies
Kbin calls them “magazines”, which has the advantage of being only three syllables but has the disadvantage of being a dumb name for them.
Yeah, I don’t see anyone adopting “mags” or “zines” either.
I’d adopt “zines” expressly to overuse it, make people cringe and demonstrate just how dumb it sounds. “mags” just makes me think of guns
Got dem Klips…
deleted by creator
I have never had a comment make me feel this old.
-Signed, an old man who used to publish zines in the early 90s.
I’m not old enough to have published zines but I am old enough to know what they were, and I think it is actually a pretty apt name for it
haha memes are so funny in glad they look at my time in the internet hahaha clever funny reddit
I like it here on Lemme. I feel pretty comfy. And most of you here are tech savvy. And if not, at least you have some level of basic true understanding of how technology works., Unlike those impostor syndrome redditors. And I suppose it’s a plus that corporations don’t hunt us down for discussing piracy.
That post tho
Oi @[email protected] ! Are you one of the Reddit Piracy mods? Or are one of your brethren here from Reddit?
I must say I find Piracy, Linux and the Star Trek communities have had a rip-roaringly successful switch over.
I much prefer Lemmy. I have the opportunity to call you a “dick head” whereas on Reddit there’s no way Spez would ever see me calling him a “dick head”.
That makes me feel powerful and I become engorged.
So, anyway, are you one of the Reddit mods?
P.S. I can’t post to this community from Lemmy.World.
Can someone explain me this “Reddit API” thing?
Reddit used to have an open API. A lot of mobile apps sprung up to access reddit over the years, with different features. Reddit gained a lot of loyal members through users of these apps, but couldn’t make ad revenue off them. Reddit decided last summer to start charging a lot of money to these app developers to continue using the API. A few of the apps started a for-pay subscription model to continue operating, but many just shut down their apps. Many redditors and Reddit mods revolted, because these apps made the site usable (some of them offered advanced mod tools, etc). We protested, shut down subreddits temporarily or permanently, deleted our accounts, moved to new platforms (like lemmy/kbin), etc. This was basically a move to maximize their ad revenue while Reddit positions itself for an IPO. It was really not cool.
There was some magic internet data thing where third party apps (like various reddit apps not owned by reddit) access and use reddit to power their apps, free of charge. That’s API. Pretty much all voluntary reddit mods use third party apps to mod. Reddit started charging for the API, making third party apps useless, forcing everyone into the Official Reddit App. A lot of people boycotted or quit.
It wasn’t just mods using 3rd party apps. Anyone that experienced the switch from old.reddit or that used mobile had to be using 3rd party or only half their brain.
It was a thing last… summer? Where reddit announced they were going to start charging for every call a third party program made using the API. This was done with the intent of shutting down 3rd party reddit apps and to get users on the official one so reddit could make more money. However, it also destroyed a bunch of 3rd party tools that mods more or less needed, and which reddit had been promising to implement themselves for years with no progress. There was a brief protest where mods of many subs shut them down (mostly for less than a week, though some are still down IIRC). A bunch of users and moderators left reddit and went to other sites.
Mods used third party tools to help them with their unpaid work. These tools relied on access to the reddit api.
Then reddit charged ridiculous prices for api access, which would mean the apps would need money, so mods would need to pay to do their unpaid work or use the inferior reddit interface.
Given these choices, some mods decided to leave instead.
Reddit enhancement suite still works on old Reddit, so if you need decent tools, you can still mod from your computer. But no more moderating from the toilet at work. No more moderating on the bus.
One subreddit I still occasionally visit is now only moderated on the weekend. You can imagine how the quality has dropped
Others have covered it but the API pricing was $12,000/50 million requests, which is absurd bordering on comical.
Reddit used to have a free and open API. This allowed 3rd parties to develop apps / interfaces for the site. These apps helped everything from making the site usable for some with accessibility issues to blocking ads to providing a customized interface to tons of other things.
Generally this was done by taking the API feed and re-engineering it to allow the desired presentation.
In a move to make the company more attractive to investors before going public, Reddit changed that API to a paid model. This meant any developer of those 3rd party apps would now have to pay a not insignificant in most cases fee to continue their access to Reddit. As such, most apps closed down and a very small portion of us long time Redditors migrated to Lemmy/ the fediverse.
Tldr They started charging 3rd party apps to use their API. The API that they had been using for ages and ages. They were shady about the timeline and their communication to devs was awful. So most 3rd party apps decided to end support as opposed to paying reddit.
Basically they wanted to make sure all users were seeing ads before their IPO.
I was a relay for reddit guy for ~10 years. Once the subscription update hit I uninstalled and moved to boost for lemmy.
Not quite correct. They didn’t start charging for API usage. They banned it and pretended it could be paid for with completely absurd prices nobody could reasonably afford.
They also didn’t allow the api to access all content, plus other limits so apps would have a neutered experience
Ah I was just commenting back on how the relay for reddit deal went… that’s even shittier of them.
I’m not surprised at all.
Yeah, the prices were around +20€ for normal usage, for each user a month. It was a per call cost and the devs would have to eat it if they didn’t charge the users, so many rightfully jumped ship. Who in their right minds would pay more than 20 euros to fucking access reddit on their phone, per month? Yeah right, fk you too.
I really miss a good Lemmy mobile client though…I was using liftoff which reminded a lot of RIF, but that seems to have been abandoned completely. A lot have ads, so that’s a hard pass for me. I’m currently using Thunder, but it’s a pretty buggy mess TBH with a lot of UI oddities and bugs.
In the same boat, I miss it still, other ones have a worse UI for me and hate the ad slots in the app although I have DNS ad blocking but its still annoying. Do update me if you find a good replacement as we’re looking for the same thing
Voyager is my go to currently
Right off the bat it sit right, thank you
Sync is the best client currently IMHO.
Uses ads so I’ll pass
It doesn’t if you pay for it.
It’s not OSS so I I’m not paying/supporting it financially. I don’t mind donating to a good ad-free (F)OSS client though.
Sync is nice IMO.
Sync has ads and isn’t open source, so that’s a big no thank you from me.
I’m using eternity for lemmy, it is a fork of the original infinity for reddit but for lemmy instead
Boost works really well.
Filled with ads and not open source, so not for me.
Fair enough
Voyager is very similar to RIF. I’d recommend it highly.
Same as you. Lost Liftoff and using Thunder now. Quite happy with Thunder, but I’ve got Raccoon and Voyager as backups right now. Just in case Thunder disappears as well.
Eternity is doing great for me
So far the best.
I like connect
I use boost and connect. They’re both pretty good
A key thing about the API is that moderating gets harder when the apps that moderators use to streamline/facilitate their work suddenly stopped working. Those apps relied on the Reddit API. These were created by and for the moderator community out of necessity.
Moderators had asked Reddit for tools and when Reddit didn’t provide they built their own. Then Reddit switched off the API without offering replacement tools.
That’s likely the primary reason that Reddit’s mods left and its content took a nosedive.
Further TL;DR
In preparation for an IPO:
Reddit: you must now only use our app to prop up our add revenue. No third party apps (unless you pay us handsomely)
Everyone: no thanks, just make our own alternative
Piracy mods are few of the mods with a backbone that actually left reddit because of all the bullshit.
Shout-out to the /r/Sysadmin mods who decided subreddit uptime was too important to partake in the blackout. Man that place just had a really toxic tone and really made me strongly want to avoid the Sysadmin career track
At least here I don’t have to read /u/crankysysadmin telling everyone they’re entitled and need to do better work and ignore their personal problems in every thread
You have probably already seen this:
Anyway, people are mostly not like that anymore.
deleted by creator
They probably realized the same skillset that set up their *arr config could be used to host a lemmy instance
If I had to guess ;)
I mean, even a lot of the bigger lemmy instances are of mixed thought on whether to federate with “piracy” instances (I want to say lemmy.world federated and defederated a couple times?).
Reddit Corporate is trying to go public. The piracy subs were going to be purged sooner than later and The Exodus was an opportunity to move the community en masse.
AFAIK, lemmy.world only blocked [email protected] community, not the whole instance, and unblocked it a few months afterwards.
Seems about right
A lot of the sports sub mods I frequent put up a hard fight and many just walked away. The change in those communities has been noticable. Especially since they can no longer use API to import clips as they happen, engagement and content is way down. There used to be highlights for days, just automatically.
Oh I didn’t even think of the auto content that could be generated with the API
It was pretty funny when push came to shove and they all pulled their heads in. “Well if I don’t do what they’re saying they might remove me so I have to do what they say for the good of the community”. That’s… not how that works.
Hehe, that’s my quote. It’s from my comment on a Louis Rossmann video. https://lemmy.world/post/1098344
Wao, most insightful post in a long time. Love it.
“If you don’t like spez decision, then just open up the sub and leave!”
Mods left
“Where is all the mods?”
“They’re just butthurt they didn’t get any support hue hue hue”
Internet is a funni place.
I’ll be honest here: it was pretty fun to respond to people going “well if you hate it here so much, then just leave!“ with “I did, check the sidebar.” I stuck around for a few days after to help the mods with a few unruly threads, banned a few problem users on a different sub I was just sick of, then left forever.
The BS in the last comment aside, what about the meme needs moderating? Was it a repost, or is the argument it makes unacceptable on reddit’s piracy board?
Love how they bellyache about the mods not doing a good enough job when they spent the final weeks of the June protest harassing the existing mods and and basically dismissing and disrespecting all the work we were doing for the past decade. They just expected things to go back to business as usual and the mods should just shut up and continue doing unpaid janitorial duties for the benefit of spez out of sheer momentum I guess? The scale of their entitlement is unreal.
“Clean it up janny!” Good on you for getting out
“They do it for free!”
Not anymore, fucko. Have fun selling your ungovernable site.
I always laughed when someone called us a “janitor” after we banned them. Like you understand in this analogy you are the trash being taken out, right?
It’s probably just because janitor is the term for a low level mod on 4chan.
Yeah, that was part of the reason I decided to leave. I mean, it wasn’t the only reason by far, but just another item to snowball into the “fuck this platform” that pushed me to leave.
The number of people that actively told me I was dumb, abusing power, and my moderating could be done by anyone was crazy.
Then they bitched about the moderation quality going down when 50% of the moderation actions walked out the door.
I got banned this week from r/aboringdystopia for “spreading misinformation” by sharing a france24 link (credible established newspaper) debunking thegrayzone (whatever that is).
Here is the url I was trying to share.
How could you?! As a Karen I demand the r/piracy manager and that he forces you to go back and work for free!
Oh, I wasn’t a mod of r/piracy, I modded r/noahgettheboat.
But yeah, the users feeling entitled to both have a sub that was taken care of, and to shit on the mods, was quite perplexing.
Hah oh shit. I’m a reddit refugee, seeing you feels like seeing like a local celebrity. Thanks for modding that sub, I was there a lot
Welcome to Customer Service, you’re here forever.
the users feeling entitled to both have a sub that was taken care of, and to shit on the mods, was quite perplexing.
New Reddit, in a nutshell. I really liked that sub back when things were good.
I loved that sub
The r/piracy wiki died when I stopped updating it which is a shame, I used to recommend it to everyone. Now I pass them onto FMHY or awesome.
Never heard of FMHY or awesome before, what are they? Could you point me there too? Thanks!
FREEMEDIAHECKYEAH https://fmhy.pages.dev/
Shakil-Shahadat’s awesome-piracy fork https://shakil-shahadat.github.io/awesome-piracy/
These are the most comprehensive lists of resources I’ve ever seen, thank you!
We do have our own piracy wiki here BTW!
