I was pretty hyped for the new prince of persia game (the lost crown), but come to find out it’s only available on ubisoft’s proprietary launcher or epic games. Nope, and nope.
I just want to have it available on my usual storefront, Steam, but it’s been decidedly omitted. As a long time fan of the old games, this kind of hurts. Especially since many of the others -are- available on Steam.
I wonder if/when it will come out for Steam. These platform exclusivity deals need to die.
Edit: It’s also available on several consoles, my post was just from a pc gamer’s perspective.
I’ve been boycotting Ubisoft for years, haven’t missed a damn thing.
Yeah, they’re a pretty shitty company. Weren’t they one of the first companies to implement always-on DRM?
Yeah, I think it was in Assassin’s Creed 2. At the time, people were unable to play the single player game they bought at launch because Ubisoft shitty authentication service couldn’t handle the load.
Guess who didn’t have that problem…
I’ve been boycotting Ubisoft for years, haven’t missed a damn thing.
Yeah, there are so many great games by non-shitty developers. Skipping Ubisoft, EA, and Activision entirely is not only possible but there are more great games left than one can play anyway.
Yeah, that’s pretty much where I’m at with gaming now. Why settle for a subpar experience? I don’t have the time or finances for that.
It’s definitely convenient to have everything in once place, and Steam has way more features, but it’s good to avoid Steam becoming too monopolistic. We saw recently how badly that can go with reddit.
Despite the widespread worshipping of Steam and GabeN, I’ve had lots of issues with Steam and Valve over the years.
Convince other companies to be not shit competition then. Steam has its near monopoly because its competition is dogshit
No, Steam gained its near monopoly through anti-consumer practices as well: being mandatory for playing Valve games, even offline, as soon as 2004; being DRM-ridden; locking consumers out of their right to sell their games on second-hand market; still enforcing an old revenue share system that’s hurting devs; or putting micro-transactions everywhere with their collectible system that you can’t really disable at all. Just to name a few.
Steam is not better than others. You’re just used to its flaws.
Steam is better than Epic at least. On top of all that, Epic makes itself mandatory for third-party games too.
Epic is worse on some points listed here, better on others.
The only one that goes on Epic’s favor is the cut, but frankly I think the whole “old revenue share system that’s hurting devs” is nothing more than Epic’s propaganda trying to get marketshare. 70/30 in favor of the devs while Steam handles hosting, community platform, multiplayer and modding tools, so forth, is neither unusual nor ripping anyone off, certainly not worth how maligned it was. I understand devs who prefer Epic’s cut, but I don’t think Epic is doing this out of fairness, nor that it can be relied on if they ever do gain ground.
In the other aspects, it’s either equal or worse. It has as much DRM. Steam provides options for people to trade extra copies they didn’t activate but as far as I know other stores don’t. Neither allows people to trade away activated copies so that’s no points for anyone.
I assume the microtransaction thing is talking about Steam Trading Cards and such, they are a bit of an iffy worthless addition to get people to waste money… but if the person is concerned over how much money the devs are getting, they do get a cut from every transaction, so under that perspective it should be counted as a plus. Which, by the way, is entirely up to the dev to add or not.
I don’t really remember asking for your opinion on what a fair cut should be or what you think is a rip off. But the fact is that Steam takes more money from developers than other powerful competitors around (but 30% is barely enough to get servers running if I listen to you :D ). Okay. Sure. Yes. Right.
The microtransactions are so awful in Steam that with proposed laws in some countries (like the Netherlands) it would make the whole thing illegal. Some of the worst Valve practices already are, like the loot boxes (they’re banned there).
I don’t tell you that you should switch to something else than Steam. I don’t tell you that there’s a better choice (maybe GOG?). But what I’m saying is that Steam is indeed predatory and has been known for its anti-consumer practices, despite what some True Gamers™ seem to believe.
I don’t really remember asking for your opinion on what a fair cut should be or what you think is a rip off.
Too bad, this is a public forum. I don’t need to ask for your permission to say whatever I want. But if that’s how you are going to go about it, then feel free to think whatever you want on your corner.
Yeah, Steam has DRM. Its the least annoying DRM that exists entirely because they gave us one of the best shop fronts that exists on PC as a trade off. And all companies have the right to sell their own games on whichever store they wish. Unlike Epic, Steam doesnt buy the exclusive rights to OTHER companies games, its just their own games. Your imaginary competition utopian dreamland doesnt exist, and you’re turning optional mole hills into mountains in order to pretend the best option we have is bad. If you don’t like collectible trading cards and the least annoying DRM ever created, go buy on GOG, EPIC UBI and EA all have FAR WORSE practices
They bought out the Devs of portal to make portal for steam
Valve saw a demo and was impressed by it to the point they funded the full game, damn you guys get desperate to paint Valve in a bad light.
Avoid it in favor of GoG. Ubisoft can’t be trusted with a single drop of goodwill. As we can see by how they inject their clunky garbage manager even in games they sell through other stores.
So, Steam exclusivity is fine, but other stores exclusivity isn’t?
I’m not taking a side in the debate of Steam vs others but has Steam ever negotiated an exclusivity deal of a 3rd party game?
Did he say it should be STEAM exclusive?
Wrong. I never said I wanted it to be exclusive on Steam, I just want it to be available on there as well.
Why is Steam pretty much the only one it’s not available on? The fact that it’s on so many other platforms just makes this exclusion even more illogical.
Definitely greed, Ubisoft did the same thing in 2019 because they didn’t want to pay Steams 30% cut.
I think it’s a money thing. Releasing a game on steam costs developers money.
It’s definitely a money thing, but I don’t think it’s in the way that you are suggesting. I think it’s a matter of them making more money (somehow) by excluding Steam. That’s pretty much the only platform it’s not available on.
Ubisoft are a poor struggling indie company after all.
Not at all to do with Epic paying devs for exclusives.
Oh and btw both Epic and Steam charge $100 to publish on their store, so it’s not that.
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Gog exclusivity would be cool, epic not so much.
I think a million times people discussed this and ubi and epic store clients are far inferior compared to steam. People have all the rights to not want their game collection spread across half a dozen platforms.
I personally don’t buy anything Ubisoft mainly because their launcher is pure garbage and I hate it with passion.
Steam made me stop pirating games, Epic and Ubi made me overcome my FOMO and be a patient gamer.
Well, guess I’m going to pirate it.
They count that. You have to not even steal it for them to realize they fucked up.
Lol as someone else put it, it’s silly to complain that you won’t buy a game because it doesn’t use the marketplace you want to use.
Steam is just one marketplace and it needs competition. One day it’s going to go through enshittification and when that happens you’ll be thankful other marketplaces exist.
Sometimes I honestly wonder why PC gamers get so riled up over inconsequential things.
Convenience, the whole reason piracy took a backseat for a few years. Inconvenient? Hit the seas.
I’ve never found it more convenient to use Steam or another store over piracy so it doesn’t make much difference to many.
Some of the games I do own on Steam now don’t work either, so it’s not like it’s an amazing store.
But if it’s inconvenient to download a different client just to buy a game then you’re just lazy. It’s not like you have to subscribe to it, it’s just a click and 5 minute wait.
Lazy for not wanting to have 6 different accounts and launchers? Nah. It’s easier to just get a pirated version than trying to remember which service you bought what on.
If it’s hard work having 6 launchers, it’s easier to just get a pirated version period, so might as well just pirate everything.
I tend to agree.
Every storefront is DRM, some better than others, and people shouldn’t get so tied to a specific one. PC gaming is so open and getting angry at this is pointless.
Not even close… no one is complaining that it’s on other stores, the problem is that it isn’t on steam and even if there was, it still requires you to install their own garbage client. Quite literally the opposite.
Who cares if it is on Steam or not though?
If everything was on everything then sure, that would be great. But that’s not realistic, and having this alternative where everything is on Steam but not elsewhere is not a good solution for that because Steam will be shit one day, and already has quite a few shitty issues.
Honestly, people have this ridiculous view of PC gaming and Steam sometimes. Look around the world and show me where having one company having a massive hold over that sector has ever worked out well long term for consumers.
Man what are you on and whats with these pointless anti steam propaganda. I get why people would be against steam but this literally isn’t one of them.
So let me repeat that. NO ONE WANTS IT TO BE STEAM EXCLUSIVE. PEOPLE ARE AGAINST PLATFORM EXCLUSIVITY. To me you look like weird one having some weird fetish for hating big bad companies. Everyone knows the problems of monopoly and I have also taken course on economics so I am somewhat aware of it but I buy things where it’s convenient and if it isn’t I would rather pirate it. Doesn’t matter if it’s stream or gog or epic, you are simply barking at the wrong tree mate.
Is this a troll post? Who cares in which store it’s available, just get a physical copy.
Steam shills are really mind boggling.
Most PC games nowadays do not have physical releases.
Is this a troll comment? You seemed to have missed the point of the post.
PC gamers love PC gaming because it’s more open and you’re not locked into a certain ecosystem. Ubisoft artificially limiting their online release to two launchers (both known for being poor quality/buggy/feature lacking) is frustrating. Buying a hard copy might be possible, but Ubisoft did this on purpose to squeeze out a little extra profit. It shows they’re more than happy to put profits over customers. A customer being annoyed this release excludes their preferred launcher doesn’t make anyone a shill.
It’s just another software it’s not like you have to buy separate hardware for it.
well also you might wanna look into pirating their titles (even if you do ‘own’ them), as they have made it clear they dont want you to have any control over the games you buy, like access to them in the future. So say the epic steam thing goes belly up, epic closes, ubi will not see a reason to give you access on their service or steam if they move their games there.
“I’m mad because they are in the walled garden that is not my walled garden.”
None of these are walled gardens really. That term applies to platforms (iOS) that restrict the user.
Steam and Epic are just stores. The DRM part isn’t even required (for Steam at least).
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Yep. Gog is probably where we should all be getting our games tbf. Being mad that a game is available on one drm store instead of another drm store is kind of silly. In either case we’re only buying the license and not actually owning anything.
You’re missing out on a fucking great game.
Not at all, the cracked copy from fitgirl works just fine, for those who can’t be bothered to succumb to ubisoft DRM.
I know of at least one other place it is available, and they have it for the cheapest price 😈
Wrong. I know a place that will pay you to download it, if you’re willing to first disable Windows Defender.
Don’t they also offer a great discount if you pay within 12 hours to unlock your personal files? I’m in!
Me in 2004: Yeah I’ll never play Half-Life 2 because I hate that it comes with a mandatory useless piece of software. « Steam », what the hell is that? Full of DRMs, ugly, bugged to the core, eating up my precious RAM.
There are valid concerns but there are benefits to using one game manager. There’s nothing good about having to install a bunch of them because every other game is in a different store.
It still would be best if games came DRM-free and all of them were compatible with whatever game manager someone chooses, but a lot of them aren’t, especially from big publishers.
« There are benefits in using one game manager »
That is very true, and that’s why your game manager software shouldn’t be tied to any storefront or online service.
I haven’t bought a Ubisoft game since Farcry 3 when a friend invited me to join an online game (which is something I very rarely had the opportunity to do) but the game wouldn’t let me play because I didn’t have that subcription thing they had. I tried using the free signup code that came with the game, but my brother already used it. So yeah, I have a personal grudge against that shitty company.
Also, I hate what they did to the Rainbow Six franchise. The original games (by Red Storm, I think?) are what those games should’ve been.
Most games appear on STEAM as well, some time (like 1 year) later. And they appear in much better shape with all patching and all.
I’m sure the last few Ubisoft games I got from Steam all installed UPlay before letting me run them anyway…
I’m not buying it because £45 is not a budget price for what feels like an indie game experience. I can wait for a sale on that, or more likely for it to go to PSN Extra. Still got plenty on my backlog.
